"'Yes, they were lured on false pretenses -- that's true -- but when they got to Martha's Vineyard, they were certainly treated very humanely. Is that really kidnapping?' Yes! Yes it is really kidnapping!"
Mandis also gave Pelley "sort of kudos" for pushing back on some of the President's answers but also said the 60 Minutes correspondent "could have gone a lot further".
"You'll get plenty of more opening days. Let Howie and Keith Raad finish it the right way with 40,000 people, with optimism, hope, and then Howie can drop the mic and say I'm out."