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Eric Spitz, Rod Lakin, Marc Kohn and Steve Braband to Speak at the 2024 BSM Summit

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In just over 60 days we will return to the Ailey Theater in New York City for the 2024 BSM Summit. The event brings together some of the sharpest executives, programmers, talent and business leaders in sports media, and tickets are on sale now on BSMSummit.com. Don’t wait until the last minute to secure your seat or book your room. It may result in not being able to accommodate you. Everything you need is listed on the conference website.

We have previously announced more than 20 speakers for this year’s show and are excited today to add 4 more dynamic leaders to our lineup. It’s a pleasure to welcome SiriusXM‘s VP of Sports Programming Eric Spitz, Sports Radio 94WIP Brand Manager Rod Lakin, Overtime Chief Content Officer Marc Kohn, and WWE‘s VP of Digital, Steve Braband to the BSM Summit. Kohn and Braband will be part of an awesome social panel with ESPN’s Omar Raja. Spitz will be part of a national panel alongside Justin Craig, Scott Shapiro and Spike Eskin. Lakin will join a local PD panel with a few names still to be announced.

I’m equally excited to share that Good Karma Brands has signed on as our Networking Breaks sponsor, and that ESPN Radio will continue to present the BSM Summit After Party. The after party has been a big hit at our conferences for years. This year’s event will be held where it was in 2020, at All Stars Sports Bar and Grill. This is a private event, which can only be attended by Summit attendees and speakers. The last time we held the event at All Stars it went great. I’m glad to have the after party taking place there again but more importantly, have ESPN Radio and Good Karma Brands involved again as partners.

Programmers, executives, digital leaders, and talent are always well represented at our shows but I’d like to see more salespeople, media buyers, and market managers in the room. We get some but not enough. This is a two-day event designed to educate even the most seasoned professionals in the industry. All of us benefit by learning the tactics and strategies needed to have audio, video, social, events, sports betting, and sales success, and hearing how the best and brightest in the business are tackling the challenges and opportunities in front of them.

Our industry won’t grow by relying on old ideas and knowledge. Being exposed to new ideas, new information, new partnerships, and new relationships should appeal to every single person working in sports media in 2024. We self-fund this Summit to benefit the industry, and it only works if people are in the room, and invested in making the business better.

I hope you’ll join us on March 13-14, 2024 for what should be another action packed show. Once again, tickets can be purchased at BSMSummit.com.

After More Than 30 Years at KFAN,”Geeky” Dan Barreiro Still Going Strong as Radio Evolves

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Born in Gary, Indiana, just over a half-hour from Chicago, KFAN host Dan Barreiro always had an interest in radio. Growing up, he listened to WIND AM, a Chicago talk radio station that had a variety of different shows at night that covered topics such as politics and pop culture. There was also that one-hour show that was all about sports and that was the one that really caught his attention.

“I was the geeky kid who listened to talk radio,” said Barreiro.  “I was the geeky kid who listened to that stuff pretty much every night.  I always enjoyed it.  I always had it in my blood.”

While radio was in his blood, Dan Barreiro began his career in sports as a newspaper writer getting his start in Louisville before moving on to Atlanta, Dallas and then the Minneapolis Star Tribune.  In 1992, he crossed over to sports radio when he joined KFAN 100.3 FM. Today, he is still going strong over 30 years later, still holding down afternoon drive from 3 p.m. to 6:30 p.m.

There was once a feeling by those in the newspaper business that sports radio was taboo and there shouldn’t be a crossover.  Dan Barreiro, who left the Star Tribute in 2004, says the complete about-face by sports writers over three-decades has been one of the biggest changes in the sports radio industry.

“When I started doing (radio), it was almost like you had to apologize,” said Barreiro.  “There was a feeling of that they felt threatened by the whole thing and don’t ever mention in any column that you do this other job.  Over the years, it’s evolved into almost the opposite where there’s sort of this acceptance of the crossover and that one might actually enhance the other.”

When WFAN in New York went on the air in 1988, as the world’s first all-sports radio station, there was instant animosity from the print media because sports fans no longer had to wait to read the newspaper the next day to get their sports news.  Breaking news would be announced almost immediately during a talk show by either the host or the update anchors.

But while the animosity between print and electronic media continued to gain traction, it became apparent to sports radio management that the best way to gain credibility was to hire those who already had the credibility among the sports leagues, teams and players.

Because he was already covering the local teams like the Vikings and Twins, Dan Barreiro proved to be a great hire by KFAN.

“For me, being grounded in being around the teams and covering the teams, the suspicion that maybe the teams themselves might have had, was lessened a little bit by the fact that ok he’s already been doing this and he’s just kind of doing this now in another form,” said Barreiro. 

“You already have, if you’re doing it right, decent knowledge of the marketplace and that was created by being in the paper four days a week and sometimes more than that in column form, as I was, and I think it just makes it easier to make the transition.”

Barreiro was the antithesis of the typical sports writer years ago.  He actually respected sports radio and called it, as long as it was done correctly, an “art form.” There were so many sports writers who looked down on sports radio, especially if the content was not good.

But while Barreiro acknowledged that not everyone did it well, he was always willing to give it a chance and subsequently made a career of it.

“I always felt that there was substance if you did it right and it was a legitimate form of communication,” said Barreiro.

Known in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area as “The Big Ticket” because of the high ratings that he has attained over the years, Barreiro has been able to come up with the right formula to keep the audience interested and engaged.  He’s developed an approach that has worked and he has the ratings to prove it.

Barreiro tries to stay away from talking about the same story over and over again.

He’s also mixed in some non-sports topics to keep things fresh.

“Sports is always going to be our base, especially the Vikings, but we do a little of everything,” said Barreiro.  “We do politics, we do pop culture, we do goofy stuff and sometimes really serious stuff but you hope over the years that the audience has enough faith in you that they start believing you have enough credibility on the basis of the guests you put on and what you say that they’ll accept the idea that this sports station or this sports guy is talking about other things.”

Barreiro has been at this for a long time and he has loyal listeners who have been along for the ride.  Somone who may have been a teenager when Barreiro hit the KFAN airwaves may now be married with children, so sports may not be the only thing on his or her mind.

So, taking some time to talk about what else, besides sports, is going on in the world can go a long way to keeping the audience tuned in.

“They’re not bothered if we spend a day talking about what’s going on in the schools these days,” said Barreiro.  “Because those topics, as you get a little bit older, can be a lot more relatable to people even if you’re looking for the bread-and-butter sports stuff most of the time.”

In any business, especially in radio, it’s hard to have long-lasting staying power without the support of management.  In Barreiro’s case, he’s had that with Program Director Chad Abbott and iHeart Minneapolis Vice President of Programming Gregg Swedberg.

Even with the way that the sports radio industry has grown and changed, they’ve let Barreiro do his thing and say what he needs to say.

“Chad and Gregg allowed me to be what I wanted to be,” said Barreiro.  “In over 31 years, I have never had anything but big-time support.  There are certain lines that obviously you can’t cross ethically speaking, but beyond that, there have been some tough moments where people have been mad and teams have been mad and they have been great about sending the message that we allow our hosts to do what they do.”

Dan Barreiro has also been blessed with two outstanding producers at KFAN in Joe Anderson and Justin Gaard.

“I need a second voice to play off me,” said Barreiro. “To go three decades with two as good as these two fellows, and to only have two in all that time, has been no small part of our run.”

While Dan Barreiro has enjoyed an outstanding career, both in print and radio, he also appreciates that there are many young people who aspire to get into sports radio.  So, when he is asked about what it takes to get into the business and what the key is to be a success, Barreiro has no problem sharing some of the things that he has learned over the years.

“The best advice I can give is, as I understand the business, just diversify as much as you can,” said Barreiro.  “To me, I say do as many different things as you can and don’t be afraid to go to smaller stations.”

Dan Barreiro, who turns 69 years old later this month and recently signed a new long-term contract, is still very much on top of his game.  For those who think that he may be nearing the end of the line…think again.

While he’s thought about when he might want to retire, he’s not quite ready to step away from the microphone just yet.

“I’m not ready to stop yet,” said Barreiro.  “I have my days where I look at the text line and I go ‘Oh my God do I really want to accept this abuse?’ But there’s too many other days where I still enjoy the work and I still like coming to work.  The cliché is ‘you’re better off leaving before they catch up with you and before people get tired of you.’  I have every intent to keep going here because, most days, it’s still fresh to me and still fun to me.  It just doesn’t feel like work to me.”

And as long as that is the case, Dan Barreiro will continue to be a voice that Minneapolis area sports fans have loved and appreciated for more than three decades. 

An ESPN Strategic Error is at the Root of Its Disappointment With Pat McAfee

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Audience appeal is a tricky beast to navigate. What does success online mean? ESPN hired Pat McAfee intending to bring his devoted fanbase to the network. While the digital metrics have been positive, that hasn’t exactly translated to linear television and there is tension between the star and the suits.

McAfee isn’t the first experiment to go awry in this way. Television executives are under tremendous pressure to find what is next – the next trend, next star, next obsession. That may mean there isn’t always time to do a sober analysis of the conditions that have led a talent or property to have success in the digital space.

It was less than a year ago that Pat McAfee announced he was looking for a partner. His show was generating serious money. Each week, the sports media was paying attention to him, his guests and what was said on his show. It is no wonder there was so much interest from across the sports media landscape.

The history between McAfee and Disney stretches back to the 2019 college football season when he was hired to join Matt Hasselbeck and Adam Amin in the Thursday night booth. He is close with Mike Greenberg and Kirk Herbstreit. It is no surprise that he chose to formalize his relationship with Disney beyond just College GameDay. 

But did it ever really fit?

Some of McAfee’s most devoted fans voiced their objections the second he appeared on stage last year at the Walt Disney Company’s upfront presentation to announce the partnership. 

McAfee tried to assuage their fears. Nothing about the show was going to change. There would just be fewer F-bombs dropped.

Maybe that was the problem.

There was nothing wrong with McAfee’s show. It gets branded as bro humor and while that isn’t entirely inaccurate, I have always thought that McAfee and his crew are funnier and way more clever than they ever get credit for. That was never going to be enough though.

Why are some at ESPN reportedly frustrated with McAfee’s linear TV performance? Because they let the star have his way. That isn’t limited to letting Aaron Rodgers play out his transparent, boring midlife crisis on their airwaves. 

The network did not insist on forcing McAfee’s audience to come to ESPN to get the show. The Pat McAfee Show is still on YouTube, where it has always been. If you don’t make someone change a habit, why would you expect them to? 

McAfee’s audience is younger than the core ESPN audience. That was part of the appeal of bringing him in, but it is also an audience that doesn’t see linear TV as somehow more important or special than YouTube. Most of them were never coming along to ESPN. If the $85 million paycheck that Andrew Marchand reported was accurate, that is a lot of money to pay for an audience whose value may not be entirely understood by your sellers and their clients.

Pat McAfee isn’t the first digital star to struggle to find his footing in linear media. There are success stories you can point to on radio, both on the local and national levels. It’s much tougher on TV and kind of always has been. 

Even when he had the biggest podcast in America, Adam Carolla could not find a home on television. Marc Maron’s sitcom never found a big audience. In the sports world, Bomani Jones’s Game Theory has come to an end after two seasons. FOX Bet Live with Clay Travis never drew noteworthy numbers. Bill Simmons’s Any Given Wednesday is one of the more notorious flops in TV history.

With a history that demonstrates the transition from digital platforms to television is extraordinarily difficult, why would ESPN allow McAfee to put another obstacle in the path to success?

Agencies and media buyers talk about it all the time. The podcast audience is loyal. They want to support the businesses that support the show they love. The listeners are a community unto themselves. They will protect and prioritize the things that made the community what it is. For Pat McAfee’s fans, ESPN is not part of that equation.

My mind isn’t going to change about the McAfee deal. Whatever its value, ESPN based what it was willing to pay on a model that will soon be outdated. I have written it before and I will reiterate, when the network becomes an OTT service and they are asking us to pay $39 per month for access, none of us are going to factor Pat McAfee, Stephen A. Smith or anyone else into that decision. It will be all about “what games and leagues does ESPN have that I cannot live without?”

The day is fast approaching when anything that isn’t an ESPN exclusive will be actively working against the company’s goals. If Norby Williamson and Pat McAfee are already having trouble seeing eye-to-eye, how are they going to co-exist then?

ESPN may be disappointed with the numbers that Pat McAfee’s daily show has delivered so far, and that is the network’s and Disney’s prerogative, but to pin this all on McAfee’s show is dishonest. The network has tolerated conditions that made it easy for and even likely that the linear product would disappoint.

Dan Le Batard: Norby Williamson is the ‘Shadow President’ of ESPN

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Pat McAfee on Monday stood behind his comments last week calling out ESPN executive Norby Williamson, and Dan Le Batard thought it was interesting Pat would take on one in such a high position of power at the network.

On The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz on Monday, Le Batard referred to Williamson as the shadow president of the network.

“The guy who runs, the shadow president, this isn’t just a Vice President,” Le Batard said. “This is the guy who’s run on the wrong side of Stuart Scott and Dan Patrick, and in general this is not a bug, this is a feature. This is how you keep people controlled when you don’t want your talent misbehaving. And your talent can be disposable, and you want the letters to matter more than anything else.

“The way that it has worked in my experience, I wasn’t there the whole time, is that the real power at ESPN resides with the CEO,” he continued. “Skipper, Shapiro before that, Pitaro now. The guy dealing with the billion-dollar deals is the real power, and then there’s a gulf of difference between executive number one and executive number two, where the second executive is just keeping the trains on the tracks because they’ve got a lot of channels – a lot of content – and if you could do that without headlines, you have succeeded. And Norby Williamson has succeeded for many years protecting SportsCenter, protecting the brand.”

Dan Le Batard felt as if Williamson and others in positions of power, not Bob Iger, Burke Magnus, or Pitaro, as well as others at ESPN who control power, have been usurped by the agreement struck to bring McAfee and his show to the network.

Because McAfee has been licensed to ESPN, not hired by ESPN like all the other talent on the network, Pat doesn’t have to play by the same rules as others.

“Once you’ve given that person unprecedented power, I think all of us can say given that he took a pay cut to be there – tore up a deal like ours with DraftKings in order to take less money in exchange for the reach of ESPN so that they could rent Pat McAfee’s voice,” he said. “Why does he have to respect their constructs? He does not have to respect their constructs, and I think that’s where you get into a difficult spot where the producers aren’t gonna actually be able to control him.”

Dan Dakich: I Enjoyed Working for Norby Williamson at ESPN

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Pat McAfee said his relationship with ESPN is great except for one Norby Williamson. But while McAfee and Williamson’s issues appear to be similar to the experiences of other former ESPN talent like Jemele Hill, Dan Le Batard, and others, OutKick’s Dan Dakich is different.

In a video posted to OutKick’s X account on Sunday, Dakich, who also worked at ESPN, said he didn’t have any negative thoughts toward Williamson or McAfee.

“I enjoyed working for Norby Williamson I enjoyed our interactions, and I consider Pat kind of a friend,” Dakich said.

The OutKick host said one thing ESPN definitely needs to nip in the bud is any leaking of ratings information. If Pat is right and Williamson was behind the leaks, Dakich said the network needs to put its foot down.

“If he’s doing what Pat said and he’s leaking information, you cannot have that,” Dakich said. “If Norby feels like they went over his head, then he’s got to get over it. I mean you’ve got to be adults here, and you gotta get over it.”

Dan Dakich believed ESPN when the network said in a statement that the issue between McAfee and Williamson would be handled internally. He also believed that the leaking of information would come to an end, and that the host and executive would eventually put this behind them and move on.

But Dakich did commend McAfee for having the courage to stand up to someone at the company in a high position of power.

“Norby didn’t feel good about Pat getting hired, he made it known,” Dakich said. “Pat certainly doesn’t feel good about Norby, in his words, sabotaging his program, and God bless you, Pat. You did what most people have only dreamed of doing. You stood up to the man, baby.”

John Kobylt is Adjusting to Life on KFI Without Ken Chiampou

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John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou spent nearly 40 years together, climbing the news/talk ladder to become one of the format’s most formidable duos. But when Chiampou announced he would retire from the KFI AM-640 afternoon show in December, questions persisted about what Kobylt’s future entailed. However, those questions never came from Kobylt, who knew exactly how he wanted to handle his longtime partner’s exit.

“There was no hesitation in what I wanted to do. I want to keep working for a long time,” Kobylt said after noting Chiampou had considered retirement since 2008. “I’m not designed for retirement, and I’m five years younger than he is. I’m just at a completely different place.”

After doing talk radio with a partner for the better part of four decades, it would be logical to think a new show, with a new partner, would be on the horizon. But The John Kobylt Show was launched of Chaimpou’s retirement for a specific reason.

“The station asked me if I wanted a partner. I said no. I couldn’t imagine having a stranger sitting in the room with me after having 36 years with Ken. I would be uncomfortable. The show would be more about me handling the new chemistry rather than about me talking to the listeners.”

Kobylt felt strongly that doing a solo show at this stage of his career would be exponentially easier than learning the intricacies of a new partner.

“I know what I want to do. I know what topics I want to cover, I know my own world view…it would be a stranger. We don’t have anybody at the station that is an obvious choice (to replace Chiampou), otherwise they would have their own show by now,” Kobylt said with a chuckle. “When you’re starting out in your 20s, you often get paired up with people, and oftentimes it doesn’t work. So chemistry has to be organic. It has to come from the people that want to work together. Force chemistry, I have found, doesn’t work”.

Many in the space believe talk radio hosts are born, not made, and Kobylt shares that belief, noting that his gut feeling has taken him this far, including his decision to link up with Chiampou in the first place.

“I always go by instinct. I have no patience for research, no patience for focus groups or testing. The public doesn’t know what they like until they hear it in action over a long period of time. There’s no way to test for this sort of thing,” he said. “I have an instinct, and I had one for him, and it worked perfectly.”

Those instincts included topic selection, which now — for the most part — falls on his shoulders after splitting the load with Chiampou for all those years. John Kobylt admitted it’s a slightly different process now that his longtime partner isn’t there to bounce ideas off of.

“After 36 years, I should have an instinctive reaction to whether I want to do a story or not, right? So as soon I read something, it’s like, ‘I want to do that.’ Or as soon as I read another story, it’s like, ‘That’s kind of dull.’ There’s certain things you can’t explain on the radio. There’s certain things that your particular audience just doesn’t care about,” Kobylt said.

“It’s not even a matter of what opinion they would have or what my opinion is, it’s just an issue they don’t care about. There’s a lot of stuff in the media that normal people have zero interest in. And one of my jobs every day is — I will see a lot of the same story covered by a lot of outlets, and there’s always this nagging feeling inside of me like, ‘You know what? I’ve never heard a normal person ever discuss this issue. I’ve never heard anybody bothered by this or invested in it’ — and that’s kind of it really,” admitted Kobylt.

“It really is all instinct. I read it, and it hits me right away…And a lot of it is following up on specific stories and issues. That we’ve covered sometimes for months or years. So it really falls into place pretty quickly, because I know what the audience wants to talk about and likes to hear.”

Since Chimapou’s exit, John Kobylt has taken the opportunity to become retrospective about the duo’s success, and looking back at their career together has been an interesting exercise for the Los Angeles-based host.

“When you’re doing 230-odd shows per year, You don’t get time to rest very much and think back, reflect on anything because you’re gonna have a show tomorrow,” Koblyt posited. “There’s four more hours tomorrow. That’s 16 more segments, and that might be a dozen different stories…it’s really like factory work. The next day, you gotta go in and shovel more coal into the furnace.

“We’ve been involved in some tremendous stories over the years. But you know, after a couple of weeks, it’s as if it never happened. We got some highlight tapes and put those together. I was listening to them, and I’d forgotten some of those things. I figured out I must have said ‘This is The John and Ken Show one million times in 36 years. Literally a million times, if you keep doing the multiplication. So there’s no way to remember it all.

“When I was I was looking for some audio, I went online because some fans over the years have posted audio or video of us. I just randomly hit stuff. And there was a reason they posted it, and I thought ‘I have no memory of this’. Apparently. this person thought it was so good. They posted it on YouTube, but I haven’t the slightest idea. It’s just a pipeline where stuff just keeps getting stuffed in the pipeline day after day.”

John Kobylt concluded that he’s committed to continuing to host on KFI AM-640 for several more years. But in this era of his career, it will include more monologue radio, with a rotating cast of characters joining him both in studio and out in the field.

But, like many of their longtime listeners, Kobylt will always hold a special place in his heart for what he accomplished — both personally and professionally — with Ken Chiampou.

Megyn Kelly: Dasha Burns Embarrassed Herself During ‘Unprofessional’ NBC News Interview

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Last week, NBC News correspondent Dasha Burns conducted a long-form interview with 2024 Republican Presidential hopeful Vivek Ramaswamy. The interview eventually turned contentious, and SiriusXM host Megyn Kelly argues Burns appeared like a “whiner” during the interaction.

Kelly praised the candidate for pushing back on Burns’ insinuation he was unaware of the 2015 mass shooting in South Carolina after he admitted he was unaware who Dylan Roof — the perpetrator of the attack — was.

“Good for Vivek for knowing that there’s absolutely no stock to be put into this group, and shoving it back in her face. Her whiny little unprofessional face,” The Megyn Kelly Show host said during a discussion with Jesse Kelly. “Dasha, you embarrassed yourself. I think you got shamed after your John Fetterman interview, because you told the truth about what a mess he was in that particular sit-down, and ever since you’ve been trying to make it up to your leftist base. To prove you’re one of them. Okay? Good luck in your future journalism career.”

Kelly’s comments about Burns’ conduct during an interview with John Fetterman harkens back to an October 2022 interview the NBC News correspondent conducted with the then-Senate candidate. In the interview, Burns revealed the lengths Fetterman — who was recovering from a stroke — had to undergo to be able to answer her questions, which led to remarks from many questioning his fitness for office.

Kelly isn’t the only radio host questioning the interaction. 770 KTTH host Jason Rantz took a similar stance, and questioned why NBC News would even release the interaction.

101 ESPN Gets Big Wins in Middays and Afternoons in St. Louis Fall Ratings Book

The fall ratings book for 101 ESPN built on momentum from over the summer when it experienced quarterly gains within all dayparts. In weekday prime hours (M-F 6a-7p), the station attained a 9.8 share in the latest Nielsen results with Men 25-54, up from a 6.7 figure and sixth-place finish in the summer. The third-place ranking is also up 2.9 shares compared to the same time last year when the brand earned a fourth-place finish.

The Opening Drive led off mornings from 7a-10a by making strong improvements. Randy Karraker, Carey Davis and Brooke Grimsley wrapped up 2023 with a 6.9 share, up 2.6 shares from the summer book. In what marks Davis’ final ratings book in mornings, the show jumped from seventh to fourth. The station announced Davis was moving to afternoons in December, joining Jamie Rivers and Anthony Slater on The Fast Lane. Dan McLaughlin, the former television play-by-play voice of the St. Louis Cardinals, joined the morning show in early January.

The outlet’s hour-long early midday program hosted by Tim McKernan generated an 11.4 share, up from a 6.8 share fifth-place finish in the summer. That represented the largest quarterly share increase for a program at the station, which also improved its rating to third-overall.

Following Balloon Party (McKernan’s show), the three-hour 101 ESPN late-midday program of BK & Ferrario collected an 11.3 share, third-place result for the fall book. That was up from a 7.8 share, fifth-place outcome last quarter. Both midday programs ranked fifth among adults 25-54, with a 7.3 and 7.1 share, respectively.

In afternoon drive, The Fast Lane continued its strong performance with an 11.7 share in the fall ratings book, the largest share by a daypart in the quarter. Compared to the summer, the show picked up 3.6 shares and one ratings position. Last year’s fall book listed the program third-overall with an 8.2 share.

For the full week (M-SU 6a-12a), 101 ESPN finished third with Men 25-54 with a 9.0 share. Additionally, 590 The Fan did not appear within the Nielsen ratings report for the quarter.

Ratings reports and analysis are written by BSM and sponsored by Crowd React Media, a division of Harker Bos Group. Learn more about the different ways sports media research can benefit your station and cut through the noise by clicking here.

Pat McAfee Won’t Back Down From ESPN Exec; Says He Is Not Trying to Get Fired

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Pat McAfee isn’t backing down in his battle against an ESPN executive he claims isn’t a fan of The Pat McAfee Show.

During the Jan. 8 edition of The Pat McAfee Show, McAfee shows his appreciation for ESPN, chairman Jimmy Pitaro, among others, but maintains his unfavorable demeanor towards one high ranking ESPN exec, Executive Senior Vice President of Studio and Event Production Norby Williamson, who McAfee says isn’t a fan of what his show does.

“A lot of people are saying I’m trying to get fired — no way,” said McAfee via OutKick. “What ESPN has been able to do for us…we’ve got nothing but love for all of these people. Now, there are certainly people we do not like, and they do not like us…and I don’t take back anything I said about said person, but the overall storyline about us and ESPN that I think people need to remember is that we’re strong…and we all understand what the future looks like, there are just some old hags who potentially don’t, but we will move forward.”

McAfee set social media ablaze on Friday afternoon following comments he made about Williamson, saying he was, “attempting to sabotage [McAfee’s] program.” McAfee accused Williamson of leaking incorrect and intentionally low ratings figures to try to paint McAfee’s show in a negative light. About this claim, McAfee said, “I am not 100% sure, that is just seemingly the only human that has the information and then somehow that information gets leaked and it’s wrong. And then it sets a narrative of what our show is.”

This beef allegedly isn’t just about ratings figures, either. McAfee brings up a negative experience with Williamson from 2018, saying,”That guy left me in his office for 45 minutes, no-showed me, in 2018. So this guy has had zero respect for me…for a long time.”

It’s clear the battle between McAfee and Williamson may still rage on, with some wondering if McAfee is already on borrowed time at ESPN.

Lara Trump Inks Podcast Deal with Salem Media Group

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Salem Media Group has announced a new deal with Lara Trump to bring her The Right View podcast to its Salem Podcast Network.

Beginning January 16th, Trump will host three podcasts per week, which will focus on political issues, and interviews with those newsmakers.

“Lara Trump is a true star in conservative political circles, and has developed a fan base of millions,” said Salem Senior Vice President of Spoken Word Phil Boyce. “She is committed to doing her part to save America, and we are thrilled to have her join our excellent lineup.”

“I’m incredibly excited to join Salem,” added Lara Trump. “Being able to add my show alongside these strong conservative voices, as well as friends Dinesh D’Souza and Charlie Kirk in such a crucial election year is an amazing opportunity and will be great for viewers, listeners, and voters.”

The Right View with Lara Trump will be available on all major podcast platforms, with video simulcasts being offered on Rumble, YouTube, and Facebook.