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Barrett News Media’s Top 20 Mid Market News/Talk Afternoon Shows of 2023

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The second annual Barrett News Media Top 20 series rolls on with a look at News/Talk radio’s best afternoons shows of 2023. Morning and Midday Shows were released on Monday and Tuesday. If you missed them, click here to check out the Top 20 section and access whichever lists you’re interested in. In the meantime, to avoid missing out on anything else, I recommend bookmarking our website, following BNM on X at @BNMStaff or on Facebook at Barrett News Media or you can sign up for our daily newsletter, ‘The Rundown‘ by clicking here.

This year’s series focuses on six categories; Major and Mid market news/talk radio morning, midday, and afternoon shows, program directors, radio stations, and the format’s best national talk shows. Major Markets represent shows, stations, and PDs operating in markets #1-#20. Mid Markets cover markets #21 and below. Not included are NPR brands and shows. Maybe in the future we’ll change that or add an extra category but for now, mainstream news/talk radio outlets are the main focus.

As you review these results, please remember that they represent the collective opinions of fifty four (54) news/talk radio programmers and executives. We try our best to make sure the top shows, hosts, programmers and brands are listed for voting consideration. Industry decision makers are then asked to vote on categories based on where their stations/shows operate. BNM’s role in the voting process is to gather the feedback, add it up, and present the results.

I want to thank Barrett Media’s Digital Director Alex Reynolds for doing an awesome job on this year’s graphics, as well as each PD and executive who participated in this process. We had representation from fourteen companies and forty different cities, which was even better than last year. For those who didn’t vote and were invited to do so, I hope you’ll change your mind next year. It’s good for the format if you’re involved, and depending on the final votes, it can benefit your staff, sales team, and company, and excite your audience and advertisers.

Moving on to the voting, here are a few things I’d like you to be aware of.

1 – Our executive voters are asked to rank their Top 20 selections for each category based on a few key factors; quality of show (ear test), originality, ability to entertain-inform-connect across multiple platforms, ratings success, clearance (national shows) and industry buzz. Remember, our voters live in different cities, have different tastes, work for different groups, and value certain factors higher than others. This is not a perfect system but it’s the best one we’ve come up with to showcase the industry’s top performers. Having done this for eight years with the sports talk format, we’re going to stick with it until a better option arises.

2 – The executive panel consisted of program directors and corporate executives from a number of top broadcasting companies including Audacy, iHeart, Cumulus, Hubbard, Cox Media Group, Townsquare Media, Salem Media Group, Radio One, Alpha, Bonneville, FOX News Radio, Westwood One, Federated Media, and Zimmer Communications. We involve a large number of people in this process in order to receive feedback from all parts of the country, and to avoid the results heavily favoring one group. Given the variety of people in this process, it means there’s no guarantee that success last year will be duplicated this year.

3 – A total of 52 shows appeared on ballots turned in by our executive panel in the Mid Market Afternoon News/Talk Shows category. America’s airwaves in PM drive are filled by many top talents, but for this series specifically, only one gets top billing.

Occupying the top spot this year is Charlotte afternoon host Brett Winterble of WBT. Brett produced the most top 5 and top 10 finishes among all shows in the category to finish ahead of Newsradio WRVA’s Jeff Katz. BNM congratulates Brett, Mike Schaefer and the entire WBT staff on the well earned recognition, as well as every show that secured a spot on this year’s list.

Now, here are the full results of “Barrett News Media’s Top 20 Mid Market News/Talk Afternoon Shows of 2023!”

Brett Winterble
Jeff Katz
Hammer & Nigel
Tom Bauerle
Dave Glover
Bloomdaddy
Simon Conway
Torrey Snow
Rick Dayton
Dana & Parks
Deminiski & Doyle
The Scoot Show
Eddie & Rocky
Leland Live
Mark Reardon
Mark Belling
Brian Wilson
Kitty O Neal
Afternoon News w/ Tim Lanz
Terry Meiners

Jim Rome: I Get Better Content From My Sports Betting Losses

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The Tennessee Titans overcoming a late 14-point deficit on the road at Miami on Monday night put an exclamation point on a weekend of exciting football. It also ruined the bets of many like Jim Rome, who picked the Dolphins to win and took the advertised -10.5-point spread.

Rome could’ve gotten down when he saw that the writing was on the wall for the wager, but he let listeners in on a little secret Tuesday.

“If I pick a team and I lay the points, and I see that they’re not gonna win that bet, I privately root for the underdog to come back and win,” he said. “I’m just gonna be real with you.”

The Titans finding a way to come back and win 28-27 made for a better story for Rome. A Dolphins win and him losing the bet doesn’t offer a lot to discuss, but the Titans doing something that was in rarified air gave him something to chew on.

“Given the amount of money I bet on that game, I get way more out of good content than I do a winning bet,” Rome said. “You know what I’m saying? Does that make sense to you? For the amount of money that I wagered on that, I get way more return on my investment in Tennessee coming back and stabbing Miami in the heart. I would rather that happen than me winning that bet. Cause the bet means nothing really in terms of money.”

Jim Rome did admit that he ended up breaking a cardinal rule he set for himself when it came to betting on the NFL.

“I made a rule for myself. I said this before the game, I will never, ever lay double-digit points in an NFL game ever again. The NFL is so unpredictable, and it’s way too big a number.

The rule lasted about 5 minutes, and Rome ended up losing the bet.

“So I am reinstituting the rule,” he said. “I will never, ever lay double-digit points in an NFL game ever again. Until the next time I break that rule.”

ESPN Sees Highest-Rated Heisman Trophy Ceremony Since 2019

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Viewership for Saturday night’s Heisman Trophy ceremony on ESPN increased when compared to the previous three years.

2.308 million tuned in to see LSU quarterback Jayden Daniels win the Heisman. That audience was a 40% increase from last year when USC’s Caleb Williams won the award.

Last year’s ceremony was the least watched on record and excluded the 2020 presentation, which took place on a Tuesday night in January.

It was also the most-watched ceremony since 2019, when fellow LSU quarterback Joe Burrow won the award. Burrow was also credited with giving one of the best Heisman Trophy acceptance speeches of all time.

MLB Shopping Sunday Leadoff Package After Peacock Contract Expires

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The deal between MLB and NBCUniversal to air Sunday morning games exclusively on Peacock has expired, and the league is now looking for a new streaming partner.

The contract, believed to be worth $30 million per year, was agreed to in 2022 and was only good for two seasons.

The league’s other streaming-exclusive contract with Apple for games on Friday nights is believed to be worth $85 million a year.

It’s uncertain whether the early Sunday games will continue, and if they will, what outlet they will be televised on.

NFL Network Announces Broadcast Teams for Saturday Tripleheader

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NFL Network will be home to three games on Saturday, and the network on Tuesday announced the broadcast crew assignments for the Week 15 tripleheader.

For Vikings/Bengals at 1 PM, Chris Rose will do play-by-play, Jason McCourty will be the analyst and Steve Wyche will report from the sidelines.

Steelers/Colts at 4:30 will have Rich Eisen on play-by-play alongside Kurt Warner, with Jamie Erdahl on the sidelines.

Broncos/Lions will finish the night off at 8:15 and will feature Kevin Harlan on play-by-play, Trent Green as the analyst, and Melanie Collins as the sideline reporter.

The NFL is also making the NFL Network broadcast available in the local markets of competing teams (WCCO in Minneapolis, WCPO in Cincinnati, KDKA in Pittsburgh, WTTV in Indianapolis, KMGH in Denver and WJBK in Detroit).

NBC News Daily Continues to Top GMA3 During Midday Network Battle

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It was around this time last year when the behind-the-scenes love affair of Amy Robach and T.J. Holmes, the then-anchors of ABC’s midday news program GMA3: What You Need to Know and each married to other spouses at that time, became public knowledge in the tabloids and gossip websites.

While the scandal was never specifically addressed on GMA3, its Dec. 1, 2022, and Dec. 2, 2022 editions of the program — what would be the duo’s final time on ABC — rose to above-average levels — in total viewers, 1.8 million and 1.7 million, respectively.

Last fall also featured the linear debut of NBC News Daily, NBC’s midday news program that originated on streaming and replaced the void left by the exit of longtime daytime soap Days of Our Lives. Back on the week of Dec. 12, 2022, the program averaged nearly 1.3 million viewers. That was also the week it garnered 338,000 within the key 25-54 demographic — a figure enough to best ABC’s GMA3 for the first time.

One year later, NBC News Daily topping ABC’s GMA3 in adults 25-54 has been a regular occurrence.

For the seven-week period of weekday afternoons from Sep. 25 through Nov. 10, NBC News Daily (257,000) held a slight 25-54 demo edge over GMA3 (256,000), according to Nielsen Media Research. Daily widened the demo gap by winning on Nov. 20-22, 2023 (262,000 vs. GMA3’s 246,000) and on Nov. 27-Dec. 1, 2023 (255,000 vs. GMA3’s 232,000).

Total audience figures slipped year-to-year for both news programs but GMA3 still remains on top there, as of Nov. 20-22, 2023 (1.375 million vs. NBC’s 1.237 million) and of Nov. 27-Dec. 1, 2023 (1.378 million vs. NBC’s 1.194 million), despite the steeper percentage declines for ABC’s show; down 15 percent and down 18 percent, respectively, in total viewers from the year-ago weeks.

Since mid-May 2023, GMA3 has been anchored by Eva Pilgrim and DeMarco Morgan, joining its already-installed host Dr. Jennifer Ashton.

NBC News Daily is hosted by Morgan Radford and Vicky Nguyen from noon-2 p.m. ET and Kate Snow and Zinhle Essamuah from 2-4 p.m. ET.

Although Nielsen usually tabulates its 1-2 p.m. ET hour — the time slot that is in direct competition with GMA3, several NBC affiliates air it in other hours suitable to their custom daytime lineups; for example, NBC’s New York affiliate WNBC airs it from noon-1 p.m. ET which is not opposite WABC’s GMA3.

Cable news averages for November 20-26, 2023:

Total Day (Nov. 20-26 @ 6 a.m.-5:59 a.m.)

  • Fox News Channel: 1.010 million viewers; 124,000 adults 25-54
  • MSNBC: 0.594 million viewers; 61,000 adults 25-54
  • CNN: 0.435 million viewers; 83,000 adults 25-54
  • HLN: 0.147 million viewers; 38,000 adults 25-54
  • Newsmax: 0.126 million viewers; 9,000 adults 25-54
  • CNBC: 0.120 million viewers; 30,000 adults 25-54
  • Fox Business Network: 0.085 million viewers; 9,000 adults 25-54
  • The Weather Channel: 0.081 million viewers; 17,000 adults 25-54
  • NewsNation: 0.075 million viewers; 12,000 adults 25-54
  • Court TV: 0.046 million viewers; 15,000 adults 25-54

Top 10 most-watched cable news programs (and the top programs of other outlets with their respective associated ranks) in total viewers:

1. The Five (FOXNC, Wed. 11/22/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.811 million viewers

2. The Five (FOXNC, Mon. 11/20/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.743 million viewers

3. The Five (FOXNC, Tue. 11/21/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.714 million viewers

4. Jesse Watters Primetime (FOXNC, Tue. 11/21/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.489 million viewers

5. Jesse Watters Primetime (FOXNC, Mon. 11/20/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.386 million viewers

6. The Ingraham Angle (FOXNC, Mon. 11/20/2023 7:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.224 million viewers

7. Special Report with Bret Baier (FOXNC, Mon. 11/20/2023 6:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.155 million viewers

8. Special Report with Bret Baier (FOXNC, Tue. 11/21/2023 6:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.110 million viewers

9. Rachel Maddow Show (MSNBC, Mon. 11/20/2023 9:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.109 million viewers

10. The Ingraham Angle (FOXNC, Tue. 11/21/2023 7:00 PM, 60 min.) 2.065 million viewers

100. CNN News Central (CNN, Fri. 11/24/2023 11:00 AM, 60 min.) 0.997 million viewers

285. Rob Schmitt Tonight (NMX, Tue. 11/21/2023 7:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.445 million viewers

365. Forensic Files II (HLN, Wed. 11/22/2023 10:30 PM, 30 min.) 0.309 million viewers

401. Varney & Company (FBN, Mon. 11/20/2023 11:00 AM, 60 min.) 0.262 million viewers

409. Closing Bell (CNBC, Tue. 11/21/2023 3:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.254 million viewers

502. Cuomo (NWSN, Tue. 11/21/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.202 million viewers

582. Highway Thru Hell “A Moments Notice” (TWC, Sat. 11/25/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.160 million viewers

694. FBI Files (COURT TV, Sun. 11/26/2023 12:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.120 million viewers

Top 10 cable news programs (and the top  programs of other outlets with their respective associated ranks) among adults 25-54:

1. The Five (FOXNC, Wed. 11/22/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.279 million adults 25-54

2. Gutfeld! (FOXNC, Tue. 11/21/2023 10:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.266 million adults 25-54

3. Jesse Watters Primetime (FOXNC, Fri. 11/24/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.263 million adults 25-54

4. The Faulkner Focus (FOXNC, Wed. 11/22/2023 11:00 AM, 60 min.) 0.240 million adults 25-54

5. Gutfeld! (FOXNC, Wed. 11/22/2023 10:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.240 million adults 25-54

6. Jesse Watters Primetime (FOXNC, Mon. 11/20/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.240 million adults 25-54

7. America’s Newsroom (FOXNC, Tue. 11/21/2023 9:00 AM, 60 min.) 0.236 million adults 25-54

8. The Faulkner Focus (FOXNC, Tue. 11/21/2023 11:00 AM, 60 min.) 0.227 million adults 25-54

9. Outnumbered (FOXNC, Wed. 11/22/2023 12:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.226 million adults 25-54

10. America’s Newsroom (FOXNC, Wed. 11/22/2023 10:00 AM, 60 min.) 0.226 million adults 25-54

23. Rachel Maddow Show (MSNBC, Mon. 11/20/2023 9:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.202 million adults 25-54

30. CNN News Central (CNN, Fri. 11/24/2023 11:00 AM, 60 min.) 0.191 million adults 25-54

156. Forensic Files Ii (HLN, Wed. 11/22/2023 10:00 PM, 30 min.) 0.103 million adults 25-54

319. The Exchange (CNBC, Tue. 11/21/2023 1:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.065 million adults 25-54

379. America’s Morning Headquarters (TWC, Thu. 11/23/2023 9:00 AM, 60 min.) 0.058 million adults 25-54

502. How To Rob Bank (COURT TV, Sat. 11/25/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.040 million adults 25-54

542. Rob Schmitt Tonight (NMX, Wed. 11/22/2023 7:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.035 million adults 25-54

573. Cuomo (NWSN, Tue. 11/21/2023 8:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.031 million adults 25-54

640. The Evening Edit (FBN, Wed. 11/22/2023 5:00 PM, 60 min.) 0.026 million adults 25-54

Source: Live+Same Day data, Nielsen Media Research

Trust in Media is at an All-Time Low. Who’s To Blame?

​​“Terror Attack on Rainbow Bridge”, “IDF Bombs Gaza Hospital”, “Anti-vaxxer Pushes Urine Therapy as ‘COVID Antidote’ Without Scientific Evidence”, “Dewey Defeats Truman”, “Trump: ‘Find the Fraud’”. What do all of these headlines have in common? They are deceptive and they were all published. Reported for one of several reasons; in a rush to be first, meeting an impossible deadline, unclear lines in the shroud of war, or worse to perpetuate political bias in the media.

It’s natural to make mistakes, although none of us like to admit it, we in the media industry are human. Some outlets, like The Washington Post and New York Times, offer their corrections and retractions on easy-to-access links. However, are major mistakes like the ones listed above causing Americans to lose faith in the media? In short, yes.

Nearly four in 10 Americans (39%) have no confidence in the media, according to the latest Gallup Poll. Another 29% selected “not very much confidence” in the media. More than two-thirds of America doesn’t believe the media is acting as the fourth estate it’s expected and designed to be. Meaning, Americans do not believe news is neutral, free of political influences, and/or free of implicit bias.

Breaking down Gallup’s poll more, Republicans and Independents are less likely to trust the media than Democrats. So, why is it one political party more trusting of the media than the others? And, if a majority of Americans (68%) have little to no trust in the media, who do they trust and why? Where are they sourcing their news? Social Media.

Pew Research found half of Americans “often” or “sometimes” get their news from social media. Facebook (30%) and YouTube (26%) make up more than half of news consumption online but they are both likely to face fierce competition from China’s TikTok.

A separate Pew poll showed the number of U.S. adults who get their news from China’s app quadrupled in 3 years from 3% in 2020 to 14% in 2023. Sampling only TikTok users 43% of them get news from the app. In comparison, Facebook has the same percentage of users likely to receive news from their outlet. Yet, users who get news from Facebook are down 9% since 2020.

While more Americans are relying on web-based aggregators to receive their news several questions remain — How can legacy and new-wave news outlets restore the American people’s trust? Is the trust too far gone? Have people and the media been so filter-bubbled that trust can’t be restored?

Some outlets are at least trying. Associated Press now hosts a “Not Real News” hub debunking social media claims. Factcheck.org and Snopes are other outlets trying to find the truth online. Even with these valiant efforts to correct the wrongs that may be found on the web, people are still flocking to social media instead of news outlets, Why?

One theory — It’s easy!

  • Social media is just an aggregator, it will show you what it thinks you want – which is likely why so many Americans get their news from it. In short, it’s fast and cheap. Just remember it’s not going to be good for you.

Second theory – It’s expensive!

  • Nearly every outlet has a paywall. If it’s not for their digital content, it is for streamed or syndicated. Not a lot of people want to pay and during economic hardships, some people just can’t afford to. In short, technology and the internet have made news fast and good but it will not be cheap because anything worth reading is behind a paywall.

Third Theory – There are too many options!

  • In the 1940’s you had CBS, NBC and by 1943 NBC was split and ABC was born but that was it. There were maybe two local papers in each market. Now the number of outlets are endless. The big 3 plus, CNN, FOX, Newsmax, MSNBC. Then there are specialty outlets, Business Insider, ESPN, Vice, the list can go on. Since 2000, behavioral scientists have studied and continually found too many choices may lead to ‘choice paralysis.’ Too many options to read could lead to people becoming less satisfied with their decision to consume media entirely.

Restoring American’s faith may seem like an uphill battle because it is. The last time half of Americans had confidence in the media was 2005. According to Gallup, the highest recorded trust in the media was 72% in 1976, the same year the Apple Computer Company was formed, Jimmy Carter became President and the United States turned 200 years old.

Is 98.5 The Sports Hub Taking Cues From Barstool Sports in Searching for Rich Shertenlieb’s Replacement?

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Fred Toucher is wrong. He said everyone in Boston is talking about who will replace Rich Shertenlieb as his co-host in mornings on 98.5 The Sports Hub. That’s incorrect.

Everyone in sports radio is talking about who will replace Rich Shertenlieb as his co-host in mornings on 98.5 The Sports Hub. Including fellow hosts at the station.

I can’t help but notice the similarities between the search for the successor to the Rich chair and Barstool Sports.

Most sports radio talent searches take place behind closed doors with strict vows of secrecy. But 98.5 The Sports Hub isn’t like most sports radio stations. And the station has turned the search into content in a very Barstool-esque way.

Barstool Sports has many detractors. What you can’t deny, however, is its ability to turn every single thing into content for the outlet. The interoffice drama and politics is part of the allure of the brand. It has brought fans behind the scenes in a completely unfiltered manner.

Which I think has played into some of the decisions made by Sports Hub hosts.

Last week, Kendra Middleton revealed she had a self-described “courtesy interview” to replace Shertenlieb. That followed comments from Big Jim Murray who revealed he had no interest in the job.

“I’ve had a conversation with my agent about it. I told him I’m 100% not interested in what I’m comfortable with where I’m at,” said Murray in November after Shertenlieb’s departure. “Maybe I’m an anomaly like that…I’m about being comfortable and happy. So yeah, it doesn’t really matter what the money is. It’d be nice, but I’d be miserable.”

I’m not chiding anyone for talking about the situation. Frankly, I wish more stations and hosts would follow this pattern after a high-profile exit. KNBR followed a similar playbook recently after different departures. Your audience isn’t dumb. They know when someone vanishes from their favorite station. Talk about it. Be open and honest about it. The parent company may not like it, but it goes a long way in building a relationship with your listeners.

Which is what Barstool has mastered. They know that a large portion of their audience cares about what happens in the office. Truthfully, I have virtually no idea who does what at Barstool. Their talent roster is a scattered mess outside of Pardon My Take and some other shows with KFC, Feitelberg, etc…but I know their names. I know who they like and dislike in the office. Hell, depending on the day, I know what they had for lunch, what they did that weekend, and who used fake spray paint to piss Brandon Walker off this morning.

I hope Barstool continues to change the game in the sports radio space, and 98.5 The Sports Hub is just an early adopter of taking fans behind the curtains of who truly has unfiltered opinions on their place of employment and their colleagues. We’ll all be better for it in the end.

Damon Amendolara, Evan Cohen, and Jason Smith Explain Why Being a Hater Isn’t a Bad Thing in Sports Radio

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I don’t know when exactly adults started using the term “hater.” I have always found it very juvenile. What’s wrong with calling someone that criticizes your every waking moment an asshole? We’re all grown up. No one can send us to detention.

Despite my best efforts, hater is firmly part of the lexicon. That is probably better for sports talk hosts, since publicly declaring someone an asshole is likely to get them taken off the air.

Recently, I heard CBS Sports Radio’s Maggie Gray admit that there is a little hater in her. In listing all the reasons the Chiefs could not be America’s team, her number one reason was that they have been too successful. 

“Yeah, people like me. Hater-Aid,” the morning show host said. “You’ve been too good for too long. The success definitely breeds contempt. You’ve been at the top of the mountain, so yes, call me a hater. I don’t care, but people don’t like you because you’ve had so much success.”

Gray’s admission got me thinking about the position national sports talk hosts find themselves in. They are far more likely to be accused of being haters than local hosts. Although we all try to be honest, sometimes a local host has an incentive for landing their blows with a little less force, whereas national hosts tend to have less reason to hold back. 

It’s always funny to me to see which fanbases think they have haters. Sometimes, the national perspective isn’t contempt, but ridicule. The two can admittedly look similar, but to the mind of a fan, no criticism from the outside is valid and everyone is lined up against their team, even if that team is 1-12 and has done a pretty good job of standing in its own way.

SiriusXM’s Damon Amendolara admits that there are some teams and fanbases that he enjoys watching struggle. He tries to self-assess if his criticism is fair or if his jokes are in-bounds. That doesn’t mean he worries about being called a hater. He told me that it is a risk that comes with having a national platform to talk about sports.

“I’m in the business of deconstructing wins and losses, and trying to do so in an entertaining fashion,” he said in an email. “In losses, there are failures, mistakes, and disappointments. Every part of that can sound like I’m focusing on the negative if your vantage point is sympathetic (or you’re a devoted fan) of the losing side. It just depends on your perspective.”

ESPN’s Evan Cohen looks at accusations that he is hating on a team or player differently. He welcomes them.

“If a host is perceived as a hater of a team or of a player’s on field/court/ice performance, that is a confirmation of listening by a fan, that’s a great thing!,” he told me. “Our goal is to always be as memorable as possible and to make sure our opinions are conveyed in a way that the fan listening fully understands our intentions and conversations.”

Previous generations of broadcasters tried to take emotion out of everything they did. The day they got their press credential or were put behind a microphone, they gave up their fandom. At the very least, they kept it in check when they were on the clock. 

That isn’t so much the case anymore. We know that Scott Van Pelt roots for his Maryland Terrapins. We know Nick Wright will not rest until we all love the Kansas City Chiefs as much as he does. Even in covering newsworthy events like Jim Harbaugh’s suspension, we know that we have to take the commentaries of some in this business with a grain of salt.

Cohen says that there is no sense in trying to hide your loyalties. If you are trying to build a bond with a sports radio audience, they are going to want to learn something like that about you.

“It is our job to paint the full picture of who we are as people, teammates and fans. We don’t hide who we root for, as it has become an association for the audience to remember our show by.”

Jason Smith of FOX Sports Radio says it is the reason that he will be honest about being a hater. Some teams he hated in his youth, like the New York Yankees and Miami Dolphins, don’t offend him the same way now that he is an adult, but the Syracuse alum still can’t stomach talking about his school’s old rival, Georgetown (which coincidentally is where my wife went to school).

“I always want listeners to know us. Our loves, our hates, our quirks, our habits,” he said in an email. “There’s a lot of choices for your entertainment out there at all hours of the day, and I want them to choose us because they know who we are as people, and we’re always going to be real. Selfishly, I like to think I’ve influenced many a listener on the best way to order and consume a Big Mac – extra cheese, extra sauce, no pickles. I will fight you on this.”

Calling someone a hater is supposed to be an insult, but for a talented host, it tends to ring hollow. Some even embrace it. Look at the milage Colin Cowherd got out of criticizing Baker Mayfield or the content Stephen A. Smith still gets out of every Dallas Cowboys loss.

Amendolara knows that there is fun to be had and quality to be found in hate. The key is that the joke has to remain a joke and the host has to acknowledge that the audience is in on it.

“It’s just sports. It’s just games,” he said. “This is an entire ecosystem built around trophies and banners. The problem arises when hosts make things personal or create vendettas, then become combative and obstinate if proven wrong. That sucks the fun out of this. Ultimately, we play characters in this giant ongoing play. Sometimes protagonists, often antagonists. Being wrong comes with the territory. When you can’t admit when you are, it becomes sad and uncomfortable.”

Smith says the fun of hater content has been raised by how much more aware athletes and coaches are of what is said about them now. Think back to earlier this college football season when NC State coach Dave Doreen told Steve Smith to kiss his ass because of a comment the future Hall-of-Famer made on College GameDay. 

Reactions like that from the people on the field were not so common just a decade ago. Now, players are inundated with opinions all the time thanks not just to the traditional news cycle, but also social media. Sometimes they bite back and sometimes they just block out the opinions they have had enough of.

“It’s happened to me a couple of times not even involving teams I root for or have any fan feelings about – and it’s now become part of the job,” Smith says. “When we give our opinions, we could get them right back. And it’s never boring. For us, for them, or for the listeners. 

“Sometimes you don’t even KNOW what players/teams are influenced by your opinions. Jamal Adams is a player I talked about when he was with the Jets and now the Seahawks. I had said both good things and some critical things over this time. One day he made some headlines about something, and in searching the story on Twitter I realized he blocked me.”

We live in an age of too much media. That means some players, coaches and teams are going to receive too much media exposure. As much as I hate to admit it or even use the word, hateration is real and that is how it is born.

But being a hater doesn’t have to be a bad thing. If you can keep it a joke and it can be used to goad the audience, hating can actually be good for your show.

550 KFYI in Phoenix and 790 KNST in Tucson Announce Local Show Expansions for James T. Harris, Garret Lewis

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550 KFYI in Phoenix and 790 KNST in Tucson have announced the expansion of local shows in the Arizona markets.

The Conservative Circus with James T. Harris will be heard in both cities from 6-10 AM. Additionally, Garret Lewis moves from morning drive to afternoons with The Afternoon Addiction and will be heard in both Phoenix and Tucson from 4-7 PM.

“James T. and Garret have die-hard fans on 550 KFYI in Phoenix and 790 KNST in Tucson. Combining James and Garret on both stations puts the two biggest conservative voices in Arizona in prime day parts to better serve both markets,” said iHeartMedia Market President Linda Little.

“Garret Lewis has been the number one conservative host in southern Arizona for over a decade. His large following and political impact will only grow with this move,” added iHeartMedia Southwest Area President Steve Earnhart.

“We’re thrilled to welcome James T. Harris back to Tucson. This one-two punch of top-tier talent will make 790 KNST bigger and better than ever — for listeners and clients.”