"The numbers are only going one direction, and you're just going to be the last person blamed. I don't understand the whole effort. I think it's spinning wheels, it's embarrassing, it's brand-damaging, and it's a pointless waste of time."
"The uniqueness of that was super appealing to me, as opposed to just a regular news program where you're just talking at viewers. I think where media is headed, too, in terms of the future."