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Craig Carton: Agreement with Suzyn Waldman is ‘She’s Gonna Be a Pro, I’m Gonna Be a Pro’

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On July 15th, news came out that former WFAN host Craig Carton would be sitting in with Suzyn Waldman calling the New York Yankees weekend series August 9th through August 11th. Several different play-by-play voices have filled in this year after John Sterling’s retirement in April and Carton’s name was a surprise to many when it came up. The reason for most of the bewilderment was due to the fact that Waldman had been the butt of many jokes from Carton in the past and it was widely known Waldman was not a fan of Carton’s schtick. Carton stopped in and talked with Sal Licata on WFAN and the subject of the games came up during the conversation.

“Have you talked to Suzyn yet?” Licata asked. “We’ve spoken, yes,” Carton answered before Licata pressed for more details. “I’ll be going there prior to the 9th to say hi in person, but we have spoken,” he said.

Asked how the conversation went, Carton said, “Great, very cordial. And it’s gonna be awesome. I can’t wait, I’m pumped for it.”

“I’m fascinated by this dynamic,” Licata said. “…It’s the number one thing that was on my mind…You obviously are a great talk show host and your personality is your strength. So, how do you interject your personality in a professional Yankees broadcast?”

“We’re trying to deliver play-by-play on the radio,” Carton said. “I view baseball play-by-play as two things. In one, there’s the action. There’s not a lot of it as compared to basketball, hockey, etc, right? Everything in between is like doing a talk show. So, I’m really confident in doing a talk show, and I have a co-host who also has talk radio chops, right? You know the first voice ever heard on FAN and I think, I hope, we’ll have fun together.”

Licata went in for more on the dynamic between Carton and Waldman working together. “Going back and forth, is it awkward for you at all being the one like for Suzyn, she’s been there. You were the one who was having fun at her expense over the years. So, was it awkward for you to have to be like ‘hey, I get that it’s radio and we’re entertaining here?’

“No, because we talked a couple weeks ago and it was very honest on both sides,” Carton said. “I wouldn’t take back what I did, for 10 years with Boomer in the morning, and if I said I would, I’d be lying, because I thought it was entertaining. I did what I thought was the most entertaining style of talk show you could do. And she had every right to be upset with that because it’s hurtful, right? I’ve also had a huge gulp of humble pie, self-inflicted of course and I can’t take it back. I don’t apologize for what I did, because I would have done it again. At the same time, I’m sensitive to the fact that your words can hurt also.

“So, look, she’s a pro, and that’s the agreement we have. She’s gonna be a pro, I’m gonna be a pro. Hopefully that’s a good time together going back and forth, and I don’t mess up any significant call of the game.”

“I hope you do,” Licata quipped.

Joe Buck Returns to Broadcast St. Louis Cardinals Game with Chip Caray

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After a rainout precluded the original date for Chip Caray and Joe Buck to call a St. Louis Cardinals game together on television, the duo finally made an appearance in the Bally Sports Midwest broadcast booth on Tuesday night. Buck’s father and Caray’s grandfather called games for the team on the radio, working together for 15 years beginning in 1945. The Cardinals appeared in the World Series three times during that stretch and won the championship twice.

With Chip Caray being named the play-by-play voice for the team ahead of last season and Joe Buck preparing to call Monday Night Football on ESPN for the third year, the timing ended up working out to reunite the families in the broadcast booth nearly six-and-a-half decades later.

Caray and Buck opened the broadcast in a traditional manner, analyzing the game and conveying the significance of the moment. Leading into the game, the Cardinals had made a three-team trade that brought outfielder Tommy Pham back to the organization along with pitcher Erick Fedde. While that was a subject of discussion throughout the broadcast, Buck first reflected on the weather as the team avoided being rained out again.

“It’s not raining,” Buck said. “That’s the most important part of the forecast for the night. Maybe a pop-up thunderstorm – hoping that’s not the case – and man, it’s good to sit here with you.”

Buck was frequently around the Cardinals broadcast booth while he was growing up and began calling games for the team to fill in for his father during the 1991 season. Over the years, he had the opportunity to work alongside his father and continued to call games after he retired in 2000. As Buck gained more national broadcasting opportunities, he departed the regional telecasts ahead of the 2008 season, ending a stretch of almost 50 years in which a member of the Buck family was calling games for the team.

“We’re old now, so there’s a little bit of an education as to who even my dad was for a younger generation, but he lived and died Cardinal baseball,” Buck said to Caray. “That’s the way I grew up. I know that your grandfather did until he didn’t, and then he moved on and rose to unbelievable national fame with the Chicago Cubs, and we’re the lucky recipients of, I guess, genetics, and the opportunity to grow up around this great game.”

When Buck was calling Game 6 of the 2011 World Series for FOX Sports, he was behind the microphone as Cardinals third baseman David Freese delivered a game-tying triple with the team down to its final strike.

One inning later, he hit a walk-off home run in the 11th inning to send the series to a decisive Game 7, leading Buck to make his memorable call declaring that they would see everyone tomorrow night, echoing commentary from his father that took place nearly 20 years to the day. Minnesota Twins outfielder Kirby Puckett hit a game-winning home run in the sixth game of the 1991 World Series, and Buck’s father punctuated the moment by saying, “And we’ll see you tomorrow night!”

“If you believe in baseball serendipity,” Caray said, “that call, that moment for you here at Busch Stadium had to be exactly that.”

While the Cardinals faced the Texas Rangers on Tuesday night, representing a rematch of the 2011 World Series, the team fell short of attaining a victory and lost 6-3. The loss pushed St. Louis two games back of the third National League Wild Card spot, while the Rangers moved closer to realizing a .500 record. The Texas Rangers won the World Series for the first time in franchise history last year after defeating the Arizona Diamondbacks in five games. As the game concluded, Caray and Buck spoke about the Cardinals’ strategy at the trade deadline and excitement for the second half before reflecting on working together.

“This was an awful lot of fun,” Caray said. “I loved having you up here.”

“It really was,” Buck replied. “I mean, it takes a while to get back into the flow, but you made it easy, and yeah, on a day where the Cardinals have added two pieces – two pieces that are going to be big down the stretch…. the Cardinals got better today; they suffer a tough loss tonight.”

Fox News Host Dana Perino: Politics is What I Do For A Living, But It Doesn’t Define Me

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Fox News anchor Dana Perino hosts America’s Newsroom during the morning and then is a usual guest on the highest-rated program on cable news — The Five — which keeps her busy in the political world. But she says her job doesn’t define who she is as a person.

During a Q&A with InStyle magazine, Perino was asked how she balances her mental health amidst a steady flow of oftentimes negative news and a high-stress job.

“Politics is what I do for a living and I love it, but it is not my life. I would say during those White House years, it was my life, and I had to have a big reset,” she shared. “If you work in the White House—I don’t care which administration it is—you are dedicated. And I loved it, but it does give me a healthy sense of how I can balance [now]. I love to work—I could work 18 hours a day, it doesn’t bother me—but sleep also has to be a priority.”

She joked that — to keep politics and her professional life separate from her personal life — she has disciplined guidelines in place.

“I have a rule: No politics at the dog park. For the most part, people in New York don’t even care what you do for a living. I’ve loved that about living here. If anyone ever does want to talk politics with me at the dog park, I always say, ‘Oh, sorry, I don’t talk politics at the dog park,’ and they laugh and they move on,” she said. “Even at dinner with friends, I find that if I’m not instigating it, then I don’t really have a lot of people asking me about it.”

102.5 KZOK’S BJ Shea: Radio Is a Form of Art: ‘It’s a Performance’

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BJ Shea’s illustrious career in rock radio started with a cassette recorder, some friends, and an affinity for the art of audio entertainment in a pre-podcast world – but a few morning shows and legendary allies later, an invitation to host a mental health-focused radio show in the late 2010s led to his most proud career moment to date.

“It started in Massachusetts; I’m originally from the East Coast,” he shares.

Shea recalls that “a lot of kids in my school ended up doing a lot of things they weren’t supposed to be doing…Me? I bought a couple of cassette recorders and decided to do little recordings. I had a buddy of mine that also kind of wanted to do stuff like this. He was a tough guy, but he ended up really being very creative. In those days, if you showed any signs of not being a tough guy, it seemed like it was detrimental. But I never was a tough guy, so I didn’t care what people thought of me.”

While Shea and his friend messed around with audio equipment in search of a fun hobby, he unknowingly launched his journey toward broadcast media. “We didn’t know we were doing radio stuff, but we were doing all sorts of bits and different comedy pieces…and that was my first sort of foray into audio entertainment without really realizing it. And then I would call in radio stations to try to win tickets to ball games,” he says.

It took a while for Shea to connect the dots. “I just didn’t make the connection that I was really doing audio entertainment – whether I was trying to get tickets or whether I was doing the stuff with my friend. I thought I wanted to be in the supermarket business and tried that for a while, but my mouth used to get me in trouble with management because I was very outspoken.”

Ultimately, a career as a broadcaster made itself known for Shea, as his support systems encouraged him to pursue roles entertaining people through audio. He says of his light-bulb moment, “I never got into radio for music; I got into radio to be an entertainer. I never cared about the music they played; I cared about the people coming on and whatever they were doing that was fun and entertaining.”

“I’m very agnostic musically,” he admits, confessing his love for any music with a pop streak. “I’m very bubblegum, which is so bizarre since I’m this rock guy – I’ve been working in rock music for a long time. But I do bend towards bubblegum. Avril Lavigne – people make fun of me because I love Avril.”

Of his beginnings in broadcasting, Shea recalls, “I was at a college station in the late ‘70s, got my first job somewhere in the early ‘80s… and eventually I got my big break in 1988 getting to go to Rochester, working for Brother Wease at WCMF. One of the best talents ever to be in the business…that’s where I really learned how to do radio.”

Ultimately, a friendship with Bob Rivers led him closer to hosting his first morning radio show.

“That became a really good friendship, but also he was a big advocate for me. He really thought I was talented…somebody who’s as good as he is and has accomplished what he’s accomplished, the fact that he thinks as well of me as he does is really quite special and humbling, actually. He’s a hall-of-dang-famer.”

After “bouncing around the country a bit,” Shea found himself in the Pacific Northwest, which ended up being a good fit for his on-air persona. “I realized that I’m kind of a geeky, sort of sensitive, new-age guy…and Seattle just seemed to be the right place for that kind of person,” he says.

When it comes to what makes good radio, Shea believes the markers of a great host – improvisation, the ability to be entertaining off the top of your head, and great storytelling – make radio an art form. He says this categorization of the work is often overlooked.

“It is something that I cry and scream and whine about a lot at conventions or to anybody who will listen is that there’s not enough people remembering that that’s what this is – this is a performing art. It’s a performance,” he says. “All of the science of trying to get the best ratings, and all of the business of trying to make the most profit – all of those mixed together has just pushed the art aside, and we’ve forgotten that we’re still an art. I haven’t, myself.”

BJ Shea

While there are radio talents that put on great shows across the country in different ways, Shea reflects on what it means to have a microphone in front of you while you guide listeners toward the next tune. “There are a lot of people who aren’t performers on the radio,” he shares. “We don’t have casting directors in radio. But we’re an art, and I will always say we are.”

In 2017, BJ helped with the launch of Audacy’s mental health-focused broadcast initiative, I’m Listening, which held a really special place for him in his career.

“Mental health is really special to me because I had a lot of issues. I was a very verbally abusive person, and it was affecting my children,” he recalls. “I said… ‘I don’t want to be this way, and my kids don’t want this,’ so I started going to therapy about 20 years ago, and it had a profound effect on my life.”

“I learned how to really take a look at my thoughts,” he remembers of starting therapy for the first time. “I thought it was fascinating and wonderful.”

Between beginning his own therapeutic journey and his experience seeing the effects of neglected mental health on loved ones, Shea sought out ways to make a difference in his community.

“I just was very adamant that I would love to help get the word out and get more research done, and there were some great people here in Seattle that we were able to connect with,” Shea says.

He remembers of the broadcast’s beginnings, “Dave Richards, who was my program director and also the operations manager of the market at the time, he went to the company and said he would like to do something amazing and asked me if I would be part of that as well.” Shea looks back on his eager agreement fondly, having mental health already top of mind at the time the idea came to fruition.

“I’m Listening was born from that. Dave and so many great people put that together, I just had to come in and host it, but the amount of people that were involved to make this happen is one of the greatest things I’ve ever been a part of,” he shares.

“And I think it’s wonderful that Audacy gave us the time, gave us the ability, gave us the resources to do this, because it’s such an important subject, especially for men to hear other men say that they go to therapy. It’s not something that’s discussed in society, but more and more, it’s happening.”

Shea’s camaraderie with the mental health community combined with an opportunity to put his first-hand journey to use on air led to a professional moment that he will remember with elation for the rest of his career.

“I’m just so happy that I got to be part of that. I consider it probably the greatest thing I’ve ever done in my career and probably will ever do in my career,” he says.

BJ Shea can be heard across the Seattle airwaves every morning on iHeart’s 102.5 KZOK, “BJ & Sarah Mornings.”

Acast Sees Strong Sales Growth During 2024 Second Quarter

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Podcast revenue company Acast saw a strong 2024 second quarter according to its latest earnings report, with steady growth despite a drop in listening.

According to Acast, the company saw a 24% increase in net sales during April, May, and June. The company — based in Sweden — said North American sales were up 26% while European sales were up 25%. The sales growth comes as overall podcast revenue grew by 5% in 2023 to just under $2 billion.

“Our sales development remained steady with a healthy pace in both North America and Europe during the second quarter,” said Acast CEO Ross Adams. “Supported by a solid gross margin, we took another stride towards achieving our goal of EBITDA profitability in full-year 2024.”

In total, for the second quarter, the company saw $386.3 million in sales.

The sales growth comes in the face of 15% listening drops for the company, which it attributes to changes in the measurement practices of Apple after it launched a new operating system during the quarter. In the update, Apple limits the automatic downloads much to the delight of advertisers who were concerned about the engagement levels of its commercial spending.

Steak Shapiro Signs Multi-Year Extension to Remain on 92.9 The Game

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92.9 The Game mid-morning host Steak Shapiro has announced he has signed a contract extension with Audacy and 92.9 The Game in Atlanta. Shapiro hosts The Steak House on weekday mornings with a rotating case including Sandra Golden, Drew Butler and Rusty Mansell.

“Thrilled to announce the signing today of a brand new 3-year deal for The Steak House with 92.9 The Game and Audacy,” Shapiro posted on his X account. “Thanks to all the listeners and my fellow co-hosts for helping make this happen. This is the most fun I have ever had in radio and can’t wait for the fastest two hours in radio to continue for the next several years.”

Shapiro thanked everybody associated with the show and also posted a special thank you to 92.9 The Game Brand Manager Mike Conti.

“Thanks also to Mike Conti for letting me do the show I always wanted to do and being the perfect manager to allow creativity in the format,” Shapiro said. “Sports is the thread, but he loves the food talk, business, Atlanta, music and pop culture insights that make our show special.”

Shapiro took questions from people on social media after making the announcement and one person asked about the status of the rest of the hosts on the show. Shapiro answered, “I will let them answer their status, but I have never been around a more stacked team than this one.”

Shapiro has hosted sports talk in Atlanta for almost three decades. For 17 years he was a part-owner and host with Big League Broadcasting and 790 The Zone.

Gordon Borrell, Christine Hoffman, Pete Mundo, and Greg Stocker Join the 2024 BNM Summit Lineup

The 2024 BNM Summit is now thirty six days away! We’re uniting news media professionals in Washington D.C. for two-days of education, celebration, and relationship building. A star studded cast has already been assembled, but we’re not done yet. I’ll have a second announcement on Friday revealing our first awards recipient. I’m excited to share that news with you.

Before I tell you about the four talented people we’ve added to our lineup, I need to address something. Building this event is hard. It takes months to assemble because I’m trying to unite different people from different groups to share ideas and knowledge, and build relationships. I want attendees returning to their cities feeling the trip was worth it. That to me is success. Media folks don’t gather often, so this is your excuse to unite, and learn ways to grow your business.

We fund this conference ourselves. Ticket prices are kept modest for the two-day show because I want professionals in the room. Ticket fees are waived for most speakers because I’m not looking to profit off of people who educate attendees. My goal is to improve, grow, and connect the industry, while delivering an agenda that people respect and gain value from. If we can cover our costs too, that’d also be nice.

I’d be lying if I said it doesn’t become taxing at times for Stephanie Eads and I. Sponsorship discussions and chasing PR for speakers can be frustrating when things don’t work out. It’s why I deal directly with most people. Marketing and PR folks may not love that, but I’m a get things done type of guy. If you can help me solve a problem, I’m happy to work with you. If not, I’m going to find another way. I’ve built my career, multiple radio stations, and Barrett Media by doing that, and I’m not about to change now.

Fortunately, GREAT partners like Newsmax, Collette, Premiere Networks, Bonneville International, Westwood One, Core Image Studio, Motor Racing Network, Quu, and JJ Surma Voiceovers signed on early with us. They’re awesome. Radio.cloud, and Xperi have since come on board too, which is excellent. We’ve got a strong group of accomplished speakers and attendees, so as long as the Summit remains valued, it’ll continue. If it doesn’t, we’ll do something else. That’s my way of saying, if you’re thinking about coming, come. If you’re on the fence about a sponsorship, act. Stephanie Eads is reachable at Stephanie@BarrettMedia.com. Every attendee and partner makes a difference. We also take care of our partners on our website, and in our newsletters.

So now, let me tell you about the four talented individuals we’ve added to our lineup.

Gordon Borrell is one of the smartest, most informed analysts in the advertising space today. His insights on where dollars are shifting, and what brands need to do to grow their business is second to none. Gordon even hosts an annual conference in Miami, a must-attend event for anyone involved in sales. I’m thrilled to have him hosting a session on Thursday September 5th from 2:10p-2:50p examining the final phase for traditional media outlets. Anyone involved in overseeing or operating a business and interested in knowing what to prepare for in 2025 should be in the room.

Speaking of monetization, the Daily Wire has become a digital powerhouse over the past few years. Leading the brand’s revenue charge is Christine Hoffman. Christine serves as DW’s Senior Vice President of Ad Revenue, which has passed the one hundred million dollar mark for annual earnings. DW enjoys enormous success in podcasting led by Ben Shapiro, and has even generated over 20 million per year in commerce according to Axios. Christine is making the trip to DC to share her insights on monetizing digital, the political ad climate, selling polarizing talent, and more. I’m thrilled to have her making her first Summit appearance.

The final two participants come from the world I know well, radio programming. Pete Mundo is heard weekday mornings in Kansas City on KCMO. He’s also a weekly columnist for Barrett News Media. Pete has been in Kansas City since 2018, and worked prior to that for Fox News Radio, CBS Sports Radio, Bloomberg Radio, WFAN, and others. He will be guiding a conversation on Wednesday September 4th at the Summit. More details still to come.

Greg Stocker meanwhile leads WPHT in Philadelphia, where he too is part of the station’s morning show. Similar to Pete, he brings a fresh programming perspective to the room. He’s been a part of Philadelphia talk radio since 2003, working with Michael Smerconish, and a slew of others. He was officially elevated to brand manager at Audacy Philadelphia in 2021. Greg will take part in a programming session on Thursday September 5th. Additional details to come on that as well.

These four individuals bring our speaker total for the Summit to 34. We will eclipse 40-50 before all is said and done. More importantly, we’re featuring a wide variety of people and experiences to help cover as much ground as possible.

A reminder that tickets for the Summit are on sale at BNMSummit.com. Hotel rooms can also be booked through the conference website. Rooms are almost sold out so don’t wait until the last minute.

Last but not least, I will be releasing the full schedule for the show in mid-August so folks have time to plan ahead. There’s much more in the works still so keep an eye out for future announcements, including this Friday when we reveal our first award winner. Hope to see you at the Summit in DC!

TNT Lost the NBA, David Zaslav Should Lose His Job

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I like and respect all of my colleagues here at Barrett Media. Sometimes though, I think they dance around saying what they mean. Maybe it’s just a difference in how we communicate, but reading recent columns from Dave Greene and Mark Kreidler, I couldn’t help but wonder why they wouldn’t just say what we all know to be true – David Zaslav screwed Warner Bros. Discovery from day 1 of negotiations with the NBA and he should be fired for it.

It’s not hard to recognize. Why is it hard to say out loud?

TNT and the NBA were a match made in heaven. It was more than just Inside the NBA, the network had a long history of sitting atop the minds of basketball fans. Remember the “Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday” jingle?

Cable television networks have never experienced a moment like this. They offer little value to their owners in the streaming era. The business model seems to be either load up on live sports or just throw on a bunch of edited Adam Sandler movies and NCIS reruns and hope you can make enough money from Flex Seal ads. Neither is a surefire path to profitability, but one gives you a fighting chance.

Not that long ago, it seemed like Warner Bros. Discovery was serious about making TNT a formidable sports brand. Adding the NHL to the NBA and NCAA Tournament made it a winter destination for sports fans. AEW gave wrestling fans a reason to check out the network each week. The addition of College Football Playoff games seemed like an unequivocal win. 

Without the NBA though, it’s all a house of cards. All of those other properties are great, but the NBA is the foundation of TNT Sports. No matter what else the company added, its identity was wrapped up in the NBA, and that’s gone now.

Someone has to be held responsible. Why shouldn’t we go straight to the top? After all, David Zaslav is the one that began these negotiations in November of 2022 saying that his company didn’t need the NBA. Two weeks later, Lenny Daniels announced he was leaving his role as the president of Warner Bros. Discovery’s sports division. It’s not hard to connect those dots.

Let’s move the discussion beyond sports though. Warner Bros. Discovery is a mess and drowning in debt. Max is miles behind Netflix, Amazon and Disney in the streaming wars. Cable news is a business dominated by three names and CNN routinely comes in third. When superheroes couldn’t miss at the box office, DC was releasing misfire after misfire and Zaslav was making the argument that a slew of completed films set to be released in the coming year were more valuable as tax write-offs that would never see the light of day. Zaslav owns all of it. 

No one thinks he is personally making every decision for each division of Warner Bros. Discovery, but we judge CEOs by their company’s performance. WBD’s performance has been pretty bad and starting a negotiation with its most valuable sports partner with a pissing contest only to sue over being left out of the NBA’s new media rights deals is beyond embarrassing.

Even victories for the company come with asterisks. Warner Bros. films Dune 2 and Godzilla x Kong are two of the five highest-grossing movies of 2024, but 2024 is one of the worst years in box office history. CNN saw huge audience gains in primetime during the Republican National Convention but still trailed FOX and MSNBC in the ratings. 

All of that has to be taken into account when you read that Zaslav was at the Sun Valley Conference earlier this month saying that what the media business really needs is more mergers and acquisitions. It sure sounds like he sees eliminating competition is the only way he can see Warner Bros. Discovery surviving, but his history suggests that what is really happening is he is openly begging for someone to take this problem off of his hands.

David Zaslav had his run atop Warner Bros. Discovery and the bad far overshadowed the good. Losing the NBA isn’t the reason he has to go. There’s a long list of reasons that anyone can find, but these negotiations were important. TNT’s history with the league is the reason Warner Bros. Discovery was taken seriously when it expressed interest in the NHL in 2021 and why CBS viewed the Turner networks as viable partners for NCAA Tournament coverage more than a decade ago. The way he handled these negotiations and talked about them in public with such flippancy should be the last straw.

Going to court is a bold move, and honestly, one that seems destined to end in even more embarrassment for Zaslav and WBD. Maybe David Farber of CNBC is right and there is a paper trail showing all of the reasonable proposals WBD made to the NBA to counter Amazon’s bid, but at the end of the day, I have a feeling it will be pretty simple. 

I expect the judge will look at the $1.7 billion Warner Bros. Discovery offered and say that it does not match the $1.93 billion that Amazon offered and that will be that for this case. That should be that for Zaslav too, and my God, how appropriate would it be for him to die on a hill of 1.7 being the same as 1.93? It would be his entire tenure summed up perfectly.

News & Talk Radio Ethics: Where Do We Draw the Line?

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In the late 1970s Sacramento was terrorized by a serial murderer who committed acts against his victims so horrifying I won’t detail them here, but you’ll understand a bit when I tell you the local media dubbed him ‘The Vampire Killer.’ His name eventually became known when he was caught: Richard Trenton Chase. You can look him up. He’s considered to be one of the worst criminally insane killers in U.S. history.

I was working in the news department of KGNR (formerly KCRA) Newsradio. Our News Director was the now-late Don Ross. I was banging out copy for my next afternoon newscast when I overheard this conversation, and it’s pretty much verbatim. I’ll never forget a single word of the reply.

REPORTER PAT CASEY: “My guy at the cop shop just told me they’ve recovered a mutilated baby’s body from a dumpster near recent Vampire killings. Want me to talk to the kid’s parents?”

NEWS DIRECTOR ROSS: “Leave those people alone.”

The late Pat Casey, it must be said, was a good guy, a terrific news reporter, and a stellar example of radio news of the time. His question wasn’t unreasonable. I was very young and still learning. Don’s four-word response hit me like a sudden downpour.

He was a wonderful news anchor before he became a terrific news director, but Don Ross was always a special person. His warmth and wit were surpassed only by his humanity. Those four words, “Leave those people alone”, crystallized my philosophy of radio news. Over time I began to think of it as a media equivalent to the medical Hippocratic Oath: “First, do no harm.”

Does the public really have a right to know? And, if so, how much?

In August of 1989, I was co-hosting the KFBK Morning News with Bob Nathan. The big story of the week was the shocking suicide of a young Sacramento Kings NBA player, Ricky Berry. We dutifully told the story based on reports from local authorities and our reporters but by the second and third day, the story began to get deeply personal. It went into the background and inside information that Bob and I believed was nobody’s business except the Berry family. They had asked for respect and solitude. They didn’t get it. The most titillating pieces of the story were uncovered and reported everywhere. Except on our show.

While we were on the air in the midst of cold-reading and commenting on an update prepared in the newsroom I looked across the console at my partner and said, “I don’t think we need to talk about this anymore,” or words to that effect. Bob agreed. We apologized to our audience, explained that in our judgment none of this was any of our business or theirs, and we moved on.

Were we wrong? Some will argue we were, but I’ve never had a single regret about that moment except that we hadn’t pre-read the story before we jumped into it. That happens a lot on morning news radio. Again, like Pat Casey years earlier, whoever had written the new story in our newsroom was just doing his/her job. We decided to draw the line.

Should radio listeners be allowed to eavesdrop on the personal grief of parents whose child has been found mutilated or of internal family problems that resulted in a senseless tragedy? Nearly 50 years later I would have hoped we’d learned our lesson but it’s still happening and blown up a hundred times the size it was back then.

Legitimate, experienced news reporters have always learned information that required delicate consideration and in some cases burial. Let’s call that professional integrity and human decency.

If the personal matters of a story don’t affect anyone except the subjects it’s none of our business and no, the public doesn’t have a right to know them. Future developments may change that but at the point where we’re about to dive into deeply disturbing private grief, we need to stop.

What about national security matters? I don’t mean leaks like Watergate or the Pentagon Papers stories. Those are crucial to our national interest. This is where the phrase, “The public’s right to know” is imperative. It’s the ultimate backstop to the U.S. governmental separation of powers.

But personal tragedies are clickbait trash. Telling sordid details just to compete not only taints our professional reputation but also injures our private dignity.

Here’s the question that keeps me on the straight and narrow about everything in life: How would you feel if your son or daughter did that?

It’s easy for us in our professional sanctimony to reason that the information is already out there, we have to join in the frenzy, but we’ll do it better than everybody else. That’s a cop-out.

In the old days, it was standard policy in radio newsrooms to not report bomb threats unless and until the police gave us a statement. Most bomb threats are hoaxes. We didn’t want to panic people, especially parents of kids in school. When I retired a year ago those reports went over the air on TV and radio as standard procedure, followed by the promotional promise: “We’ll have more information when it’s available.”

In talk shows the line between information, opinion, and ethics is usually blurred to the point of indistinction. As a listener, I know that what you’re telling me is your perspective with some opinionated tweaking of the facts. I get that and consider it. In rare cases, I suspect talk hosts are exploiting hearsay or manufacturing facts to sell their point. That’s clickbait radio. Happily, these sensational wannabes are few and short-lived. I believe that most hosts, purveying every view and opinion, are smart, professional, respectable, and honest in their passion. They aren’t all right or left-wing political idiots. They talk about the news and social issues from the heart
and mind. As a listener, my job is to decide whether it makes sense.

I’ve said it a thousand times: news & talk radio ethics need to be resolute, and listeners need to be encouraged to think before committing to an opinion, even yours.
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PS: The Sacramento Vampire Killer, Richard Trenton Chase, was a childhood friend of mine. I use the term friend loosely because even as a kid something about him bugged me. His parents and mine were friends, we spent time together. You just never know.

PPS: Ricky Berry’s father, Bill, was a coach for the Kings when his son was on the team. He was also the coach of my high school basketball team. Circles of life.

What is the Right Length of a Song?

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You may have heard her reasoning. In some circles, people agreed with her. Others bellowed about all the songs over say – five minutes – that never would have been produced.

TikTok’er Pink Pantheress said this past May that songs should be no more than 2:30 in length. 

No second verse – no bridge – no long outro.

It IS true hit songs are getting shorter. A full sixty seconds shorter in the past two and a half decades. 

Artists all over the digital space are intentionally shortening songs in an attempt to get more streams. Another trend has musical pros encouraging emerging artists to eliminate musical intros to open songs.

Radio edits of hits have been around for decades. But what’s the correct length?

It’s subjective and up to you!

As Captain of Your Format, you have complete control over what version of a song you air. Legendary talent Steve Goddard showed us this very thing decades ago in Phoenix.

When Dirty Dancing arrived in the theatres, the soundtrack was white-hot. You couldn’t punch between Pop and Adult Contemporary stations without hearing Bill Medley and Jennifer Warnes belt out (I’ve Had) The Time of My Life.

One problem. In order to push forward momentum in a high-energy format meant no stoppage of music. 

When you said ‘Continuous Music’ – you paid it off every music sweep.

And THAT song – had no instrumental intro. 

Cold open.

What did Steve do then? Steve CREATED a musical instrumental intro. All:12 seconds of it.

The music doesn’t stop. Period.

Mr. Goddard lifted a piece of the bridge – looped it – boom!

Instant intro.

A second school of thought in ‘building a music matrix’ that fits your brand attitude – songs that fade OUT on the radio sound as though the radio STATION is fading out of ‘range’.

When A Flock of Seagulls I Ran is delivered to the radio, the edit supplied by Arista Records fades out, while the album version (and video edit) ends cold. Quick edit on the 4-track machine – boom! Instant cold ending.

With digital machines, making your own edit—a unique edit that exists only on your brand—is easy at middle school grade level.

You don’t like the COLD intro on Maroon 5’s – Cold? Your music provider offers instrumental, A Capella, and no-rap versions. Go wild!

You can most likely figure it out on your own, but there are dozens of tutorials on the Internet. The ART of scoring a radio brand – like you would a movie score – is a lost art. Automation has trained broadcasters who have never mixed their own show to ‘let it run’.

More on that – at another time.

At 6:00 full minutes, Queen’s Bohemian Rhapsody – too long? The record company said – yes. Fans said – no.

What is the right length of a song? Does every song need an intro?

Pink Pantheress has her answer.

You – have YOUR correct answer.