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Danny Parkins: “I Was Conceived During Halftime of the Bears Super Bowl”

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Adam Schein had fellow Syracuse grad Danny Parkins as his featured guest on his Rise and Schein podcast this week. Schein had high praise for Parkins, introducing him and saying, “I think he is, pound for pound, the best sports radio host on the planet, he is absolutely superb.”

Schein added as Parkins joined, “You are just kicking ass and taking names in Chicago, and I’ve been a fan of yours for a long time.”

The conversation started with the topic of Parkins’ new book, Pipeline to the Pros: How D3, Small College Nobodies Rose to Rule the NBA, a project he worked on with his best friend and co-author Ben Kaplan with a forward by Jeff Van Gundy.

Talking more about Parkins and when he first heard him, Schein said, “You have the gift to gab…I heard you when you were at Syracuse and I thought, ‘this guy is going to be a star’ and following your career has been frankly a pleasure for me. When [Barrett Sports Media President] Jason Barrett asks me to pick someone as the best sports talk show host in the country, I always pick my guy Danny Parkins…passion, opinion, knowledge, entertainment, the POKE scale, you are always number one and rate very high at the highest possible level on that list.”

Schein then says he knew he wanted to be a sports radio host when he was 10 years old and asked Parkins when he knew it was what he wanted to be.

“A little later than you but not much,” Parkins said. “At 10, I still thought I was going to be John Paxson and be the white shooting guard on the Bulls.” Parkins goes on to explain due to scoliosis his athletic career came to an end but he, “loved sports, was obsessed with sports.” He said he was aware of sports radio from listening to Chicago Bulls postgame shows but didn’t think it was for him. When a classmate suggested he check out the school radio station, Parkins said he quickly became hooked.

“My first [assignment] was play-by-play, it was girls high school volleyball, and I was just hooked. Might have been the shorts, I don’t know, but I was just hooked. And I was like this is so much fun.”

Talking further on his career path, Parkins said, “I did a show before school, more play-by-play, I went to Syracuse and joined WAER and realized very quickly that the talk show thing was me more me than play-by-play, because it was about me. I know that’s egotistical, but Ian Eagle and Jason Benetti and Mike Tirico can be the greatest play-by-play guys in the world, but the rating is dependent on the quality of the game. Whereas a talk show, people are tuning in to hear Adam Schein’s monologue. You know, at 2 o’clock they have options, but they are choosing to hear what I have to say about Caleb Williams. The money maybe isn’t as great, the glamor isn’t as great, but the money is still pretty good, and the glamor is still pretty good. And so, I love talk shows and opinions and commentary and being a voice that matters in the town that I love.”

Parkins, 37, then shared a personal story which might explain his love of sports. My parents told me I was conceived during halftime of the Bears Super Bowl [in 1986]…so it has been in my blood since the moment of conception here.”

The conversation moved to Chicago Bears talk and in addition to talking about the NFL Draft and Caleb Williams coming in as the new quarterback, Schein asked Parkins about the team dominating the sports talk chatter in Chicago.

“The shared suffering [of the Bears] is also a great connector in this city. Rich, poor, black, white, north side, south side, suburbs, city, everyone is a Bears fan, and everyone has the same Bears experiences.”

NPR Editor-in-Chief: I Strongly Disagree With Essay From Uri Berliner

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Longtime NPR Business Editor Uri Berliner wrote an op-ed Tuesday arguing the outlet had lost its way and is now filled with political bias. Now, the network’s Editor-in-Chief is fighting back.

Berliner claimed NPR is not representative of the American public, and claimed the outlet missed or inaccurately reported three large stories in the past few years due to political biases from the employee base and editorial edicts from the company.

After the essay went viral, NPR Editor-in-Chief Edith Chapin defended the network from the criticism.

“I and my colleagues on the leadership team strongly disagree with Uri’s assessment of the quality of our journalism and the integrity of our newsroom processes,” Chapin wrote. “We’re proud to stand behind the exceptional work that our desks and shows do to cover a wide range of challenging stories. We believe that inclusion – among our staff, with our sourcing, and in our overall coverage – is crucial to telling the nuanced stories of this country and our world.”

She continued by noting that while she disagrees with the encapsulation from one of the outlet’s own editors, she said NPR is not above reproach.

“None of our work is above scrutiny or critique. We must have vigorous discussions in the newsroom about how we serve the public as a whole, fostering a culture of conversation that breaks down the silos that we sometimes end up retreating to. Ideally, we engage in this debate respectfully, with the goal of lifting up and strengthening each other’s work.”

Urban One President/CEO Alfred Liggins Inks Contract Extension

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Urban One President and CEO Alfred Liggins has signed an extension to remain with the radio and TV owner.

Liggins has signed a new contract that runs through December 31st and will feature automatic one-year renewals, according to a report from Inside Audio Marketing.

He will make an annual salary of $1.25 million, but with bonuses could reach well over $4 million in compensation. After helping to found the company’s TV One division, Alfred Liggins could receive 4.2% of any sale of the sector should the company pursue a sale.

The 59-year-old has been President of Radio One since 1989 and CEO since 1997. His mother — Cathy Liggins Hughes — founded the company in 1980 after purchasing WOL-AM in Washington D.C. He initially joined the company as an account manager in 1985.

Between radio and TV outlets, Urban One currently owns and operates 61 entities.

Seller to Seller: What is the Hardest Part About Selling Sports Media Right Now?

This week I didn’t just talking to one salesperson for our feature, I talked to several salespeople who sell sports media. I want to bring perspective on what is happening out in the field, what the sellers who are grinding each day are thinking or struggling with.

I asked several people who are living the day-to-day world of sales the same question, ‘What is the hardest part about selling sports media right now?’

Now, of course the sellers I have asked are people that I know, which in most cases means I managed them at some point. And that means they know my spiel. I always say there are six things you must do as a sports media salesperson and those are prospecting, getting meetings, doing a client needs analysis, presenting a great campaign with creative ideas, closing the sale and then super-serving your client and their buy. I generally add that the job itself is hard, but understanding the job is easy.

“Prospecting, I feel like the number of categories willing to spend what they need to is dwindling,” came the first response.

This is not a new thing to hear. We used to have more bread-and-butter categories and we all know the change in the auto business and retail and how that has affected sports media sales over the last few years.

This is where you must get innovative and bring new categories into sports media that may not have been in the space before. Easier said than done, but digital offerings also allow sellers now to prospect any company that has the money to spend and to get a relationship going with a client where they can then get them to try radio or television, or whatever the core product is, after trust has been built.

Which leads me right to the second response I received, which came from a really good, experienced, salesperson.

“Closing. And what I mean by that is my closing ratio is way down with digital. I have found it easier to get appointments, but because everyone and their brother is selling it, closing that deal has become much harder.”

The struggle is real. And I feel especially bad for those that work for companies that just figured radio sellers were already out in the market and they would just teach you a little digital and off you go. It’s not easy and it takes extra effort to understand it and be able to present it in such a way that you can compete against people who have been trained from day one to sell it.

I was in a meeting with a senior seller a few years ago where I had to apologize to the client because the seller was trying to talk the digital game but had about 60% of the information correct.

Some of this of course falls on the seller. If this is your career and something you want to excel at for a long time, you have no choice but to put the time and effort into learning it, asking questions, doing whatever you need to do to become as close to an expert as you can.

Two sellers answered that they are not having problems getting meetings, but they are struggling with the quality of the meetings. I put that under prospecting.

Prospecting the right way can be tedious but it’s worth it. It is one thing to see a new business pop up or, more likely, someone who did some form of advertising. The problem is, we make too many assumptions at both ends of the spectrum. On one end we assume someone advertising in the Daily Bulletin has money to spend on advertising and on the other end we assume all companies think small and we don’t pitch them enough.

Whether it be looking up information about the company from what you can find online, doing the digital diagnostics or simply going to their website and seeing how they present themselves, you have to take the time to make sure a prospect is worthy of your time. A great resource for this is the Radio Advertising Bureau website.

Another response was, “All. The Things. But, if I had to pick one of the six, I would probably say trying to service and execute because that includes writing copy, dealing with billing, dealing with traffic, digital and everything else. Plus, this new client is now incredibly important, and I feel like I have to entertain them and do everything in my power to make this work. It’s a lot of pressure.”

Haven’t we always been taught to under-promise and over-deliver? It’s tough to do, especially when you are trying to do everything you can to win business. Something else you have heard before is, “the work begins when the client says yes.” Now, it is time to execute and some things, especially when it comes to digital, are completely out of your hands. The best way to look at this is to control what you can control and limit the chances for mistakes. Don’t cut corners, especially with copy.

None of the answers surprised me and so much of it goes back to grinding it out and continuing to work those six important steps. It used to be a simple numbers game where the more you pitch the more you sell. That still holds true today, but nowadays you have to spend more time preparing or working each step, in order to continue to win business.

Masters Ratings Will Show if Golf Fans Have PGA Tour-LIV Golf Fatigue

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The Masters usually answers a few questions in golf, but only a few. The course at Augusta National is so particular that champions have often emerged who, it turns out, had games – or histories at the event – that were perfectly suited for the April weekend but didn’t foretell much about their seasons to come.

It’s a little odd, then, to hear that the year’s first major is being used this week as a temperature-taker on the entire future of golf on TV. But that’s where we are here in 2024.

The Masters arrives this year at a sort of early confluence of issues. Among other things, the tournament goes off Thursday amid a golf ratings slump, with early-season viewership down about 20 percent across the board.

There are explanations for that, including lousy weather that hit several tournaments and forced the cancellation of the final round at Pebble Beach altogether. It hasn’t helped that several PGA events have lacked a little star power in their final rounds.

But the bigger picture is that the current state of golf is weird. And the Masters may tell us just how severely that weirdness is affecting the bottom line.

The PGA’s ongoing fight with the Saudi-backed LIV Golf – and it’s still a fight, even though the two sides announced 10 months ago that they’d work on combining forces – sure feels like it has begun to exhaust fans of the sport. Again, it’s so early in the season that there’s ample time for ratings to kick up. But those close to the Tour understand that all is not well.

“Ratings are down,” PGA Tour vice president Laura Neal told reporters recently. “Can we link that directly to the conflict and fans being fatigued and annoyed or bored, or whatever you might say? Simple answer is, yes-ish. But there’s more to it.”

The Masters is a great litmus test for that theory. It produces the highest golf viewership numbers every year; the 2023 tournament averaged more than 12 million viewers and peaked at more than 15 million, making it the most-watched golf event on CBS in five years.

As a major, the Masters also incorporates players from LIV’s rosters into its field. Adding guys like Jon Rahm, Phil Mickelson, Dustin Johnson and Bryson DeChambeau automatically enhances the quality of the pairings and – in theory – makes the weekend that much more watchable.

But that assumes that the fan annoyance Neal referenced can be remedied simply by throwing most of the sport’s stars back in the same field for a few days. Or is golf headed toward a much more dramatic cliff?

Rory McIlroy, who spent much of the past year working behind the scenes on the PGA-LIV rift, is concerned about the latter. Noting the diminished ratings even for the PGA Tour’s hand-crafted “signature” events, McIlroy last month acknowledged that the ugly splintering of the sport’s talent has proved toxic to the public.

“I think fans are getting fatigued of it, and I think the more and more we go down this route, the more people are just going to tune in four times a year (for the majors), which is no good for anyone – no good for golf,” McIlroy said. “That just can’t happen, so we need to figure it out.”

It all brings us back to Augusta. If the Masters pulls its usual viewership numbers, which ratings experts say would fall in the 10.5 million to 13.5 million range, then the early season TV slump might be more easily dismissed as one of those things that happens from time to time.

If those numbers come in at 10 million or below, then a trend of fan disaffection is likely emerging.

ESPN has the first two rounds beginning Thursday, with CBS carrying the weekend. The Masters is also a streamer’s delight, with coverage on ESPN+, Paramount+, Masters.com, the Masters app and the CBS Sports app.

So where’s it all headed? Well, as of this writing, Tiger Woods is expected in the field, which has traditionally been good for a ratings bump.

In a way, though, that’s exactly the problem. If golf in 2024 is relying on Tiger to put some wind under its wings, everybody’s in trouble – on both sides of golf’s intramural fight.

Should News/Talk Radio Guests Be Paid?

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Interesting story. My news/talk radio station has been utilizing a print/written reporter for a particular story that has spanned several months.

He’s added a ton of value to our morning radio show, and we’ve tried to promote his work as much as possible.

We don’t pay him a dime.

The other day, we went to the well once again. I texted him and asked if we could have him on for a few minutes.

The response: Sure.

Wait for it. A second response: Hey, do you have any gift cards or anything for doing these?

I was a bit stunned.

I stepped back, thought about it, and wrote back that we didn’t have a budget to compensate guests. I added that I totally understood if he didn’t want to come on the show that day – or any more.

On one level, I felt badly about him getting to the point where he felt the need to ask – that he felt his work was worth more than the value we were giving him in promotion … and enjoyment.

We all need as much exposure as possible, and let’s be honest, radio can be a lot of fun — bringing stories, personalities, and experiences to life in a way that only the spoken word can.

I also was a little annoyed, too – that he didn’t recognize how good it was for him to build a brand, to bring his work to a broader audience.

In the end, it was a split decision.

I promised myself if he still decided to come on the show anyway, I would not mention anything about the request. He did end up making the appearance, and it was as if the short exchange never happened.

But it did. And it got me thinking. Hypothetically, should we be compensating our guests?

In major markets and on network shows, it’s basically standard to pay for certain people of value to appear on shows. Contracts make it obligatory, and in many cases, it’s as much about their commentary as it is about keeping them away from competitors. Heck, when I went freelance at ESPN 24 years ago, my contract had me paid for every ESPN Radio appearance, and I was a bottom feeder.

But locally — in 2024 — in small and mid-sized markets, the money isn’t there. Should we find it? Should reporters demand it, and refuse to make appearances without receiving something?

Ultimately, everyone who’s a professional deserves to be compensated for their work, yet when cross-promoting or working across mediums, that’s not necessarily realistic.

If we only could have regular guests who were compensated, our guest list, I would imagine, would shrink by two-thirds – maybe more.

This falls a bit in line somewhat with last week’s column – how TV and radio should work together more. Reporters like the one who simply wondered if we could throw a gift card his way, are incredible resources. They provide insight that a simple host hot-take doesn’t have – not to mention credibility.

It’s worth a lot.

But in the corporate side of my world, I guess it’s not worth money or even a gift card. But also in my world, that doesn’t mean it’s not valued and not worth it for them, too.

So, as I stepped back to think about what I call the “gift card episode”, my conclusion is that I cannot build in any expectations, but I am going to try and find ways to make contributors feel more valued – whether it be more attention to promoting their work better … or even something like gift cards — and I may even need to do it myself.

They deserve it.

WWE Has A Lesson Sports Radio Needs to Hear

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A new era of the WWE began this past weekend, as the first Wrestlemania of a new regime leading the company took place. And one of the developments should be a stark reminder for sports radio.

The Vince McMahon days — for better or for worse — are over for the WWE. Nick Khan, Paul Levesque (better known as Triple H), and Brad Blum now lead up the executive team for the billion-dollar company.

And they’re embracing change. The company isn’t operating under the “same ol’, same ol’,” guise as past leaders have. I half expected Roman Reigns to keep Cody Rhodes from “finishing the story” Sunday night, simply because the usual WWE way would be to milk another year of the story for all of the profits it would bring, but that’s a different column for a different day.

The new leadership at WWE is embracing what it is, who it is, and just as important, who it isn’t.

For decades, the company has insisted on utilizing the moniker of “Sports Entertainment.” It’s a fair — and frankly accurate — description of what goes on inside that squared circle. The participants are undeniably athletes, and the scripted nature of the outcomes certainly deserves an “entertainment” label.

But, under the stewardship of Khan, Levesque, and Blum, the company is pivoting. Gone is the insistence on using “Sports Entertainment”, with a focus on now calling it what it is: Professional Wrestling.

The WWE is, at it’s core, “professional wrestling.” While “sports entertainment” is accurate, it doesn’t speak to the foundation of the industry.

And that’s a lesson, I think, sports radio needs to recognize and embrace. Every year at the BSM Summit, someone will mutter the phrase “We’re not in the radio business, we’re in the content business.”

And while that’s accurate, it doesn’t embrace the foundation of the business. What are 98.5 The Sports Hub, WFAN, AM 570 LA Sports, and 810 WHB (I could go on forever)? If you believe they are “sports content creators” or “multi-media sports entities”, is that an accurate representation? Absolutely. But is it the core of what they do? No.

They are sports radio stations. And should embrace the medium as such. Is it important for stations to be content factories? Of course it is. Hardly anyone in the industry is pounding the table as hard as I am that every since one of your local shows should be live streamed on YouTube, Twitch, Rumble, or whatever video platform you can get on. I’ll die on the hill that if you’re not putting your local shows in on-demand or podcast form, you’re doing yourself and your listeners a great disservice, while missing out on valuable sales opportunities.

However, anyone, and I think it’s been proven anyone can start a podcast or YouTube channel these days. With a few hundred bucks — not an exaggeration in 2024 — you can have a full-fledged studio in the spare bedroom of your house or apartment. Believe me, I personally have one, and know countless others who do, too.

But do you know what separates sports radio from the rest? Radio! I don’t have a terrestrial radio signal, and frankly, I’m highly unlikely to ever have one. The most widely used, widely accessible platform isn’t being embraced by the companies that saw their fortunes, brands, and businesses built off its back.

I understand the shift away from a focus on radio. Podcasts, video streams, and other digital offerings are the shiny new toys, and everyone is chasing the ad dollars they see shifting from the medium elsewhere.

But if you built your brand and business on radio, shouldn’t that still be the driving force? It’s what separates you from everyone else. Countless digital brands have risen to prominence in the past decade. But do you know what sets Barstool Sports, The Ringer, OutKick, and others from iHeartMedia, Audacy, and Cumulus? No, not crippling debt loads. It’s radio!

Due to technological advancements, those digital companies were able to launch and disrupt a a sports media sector that was frankly asleep at the wheel in many aspects. But, at some point, we have to embrace what separates us. While I believe it’s important to be everywhere your audience is and create platform-specific content, the biggest platform, and the biggest focus, should remain on terrestrial, over-the-air, good old-fashioned radio.

Take the WWE mindset. Stop trying to chase legitimacy from the outside and embrace who you are. Reap a focus on local radio and see what you sow.

News Outlets Should Be Embarrassed By Eclipse Coverage

From coast to coast, local and national news outlets broke into programming to give you… a natural phenomenon that happens somewhere in the world every 18 months.

To quote Shepard Smith in 2017, “They know this is all it’s going to be, right? Just a moon over a sun.”

While the cynic in me agrees with him (and the producer in me abhors weather coverage), the news media should find a way to create unifying stories outside of natural events. (For the sake of argument please note solar eclipse, earthquakes, and volcano eruptions all fall under the “weather” category of news.)

The Northeast’s weekend was bookended with both earthquake coverage and eclipse coverage. I get it, the natural world is amazing, beautiful, and sometimes unpredictable, but this does not mean “Stand in line for 4 hours to get a pair of glasses so you can look at the sun for 4 minutes.” The hysteria and hype leading up to the eclipse was laughable and unnecessary.

The obsession over an earthquake in which no one died and that caused minimal damage was hardly worth wall-to-wall coverage, especially since Pennsylvania, New York, and New Jersey lie on a major fault line. Not to mention, the earthquake in Astoria, Queens earlier this year received less coverage than the one on Friday.

Weather coverage is so popular and widely loved among people that a third national network is now dedicating an entire channel to weather. CBS announced the launch of its new subsidiary which may bring on another competitor to The Weather Channel. While this brings to question the current partnership of the two outlets, it means there will be more noise to filter through as you flip through your social media feed. Another outlet telling you it’s snowing in Boston in the middle of January. This is not what people need.

Instead of CBS News closing its Tokyo Bureau, it should have taken the money used to build its weather outlet and put it into its once-great foreign affairs bureaus across the globe. Not having a foothold in Asia is going to make covering China, the country which holds most of our debt and is also where we import the most amount of goods from, significantly more difficult. Knowing what’s going on in a country to which we have significant economic ties is important for every American. In fact, it could be unifying for Americans to understand how China’s climate policies are not only worse than ours but they are held to a significantly lower standard than we are.

Another unifying story, whose roads lead back to China? The illegal drugs being brought over our border and killing our children are originating in the Red Dragon Nation. While the media — more so the left than the right — turn a blind eye to China’s preverbal bamboo curtain, one thing is certain: If we continue to be distracted by natural phenomena hard hard-hitting unifying stories are being missed on both the local and national level.

Let me be clear, I’m not saying kick out your local station’s weatherperson. I’m saying there is a time and a place for weather and in a 48-minute local news show your collective weather hits should not exceed 15 of those minutes. As for national media, do better. Your viewers’ time is valuable and they have more important things to worry about than the weather happening on the opposite coastline.

Weather may be the obvious unifier, especially in local news, but the media needs to challenge itself more. The question isn’t how do we appeal to my outlet’s specific demographic but how can we be innovative and touch those in and out of my demographic. Your eclipse coverage may be disruptive to paid programming but it didn’t really add anything other than noise to an already over-told and underwhelming story.

MSNBC Sees Ratings Success Months Into New ‘The Weekend’ Morning News Show

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Back in early February, we reported that the new MSNBC morning news program The Weekend got off to a positive start. The show is hosted by Alicia Menendez, former Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele, and former Democratic strategist Symone Sanders-Townsend.

For its first three weekends (thru Jan. 28), according to Nielsen Media Research, The Weekend averaged 779,000 viewers/71,000 adults 25-54 on Saturday mornings; 554,000 viewers/57,000 adults 25-54 on Sundays; representing double-digit percentage growth from all of MSNBC weekend early mornings within the 2023 calendar year.

In the two months since our report, The Weekend has improved upon its initial outings. For Saturdays at 8-10 AM from Feb. 3 through Mar. 30, it has delivered 805,000 total viewers including 84,000 within the key 25-54 demographic; Sundays 8-10 AM for Feb. 4-Mar. 31: 637,000 viewers and 63,000 adults 25-54.

Its peak performance, to date, came on Saturday, Mar. 9 within the 9-10 AM hour, drawing 970,000 viewers and 140,000 adults 25-54. That morning, President Biden had signed key government funding bills into law and averted a federal shutdown.

Through Mar. 31, the updated The Weekend averages since its debut are, as follows: 799,000 viewers/80,000 adults 25-54 on Saturday mornings; 669,000 viewers/68,000 adults 25-54 on Sundays.

Based on its timeslots throughout all of 2023 and the first weekend of 2024, which had mostly included programs hosted by Katie Phang and Jonathan Capehart, The Weekend grew 41 percent and 47 percent in total audience (along with 41 percent and 37 percent in adults 25-54) on Saturday and Sunday, respectively.

Its success prompted the network to re-air its Sunday editions in Sunday prime time since early March.

NCAA Men’s Championship Game Averages 14.8 Million Viewers

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The early numbers are out and the NCAA men’s championship game, which saw UConn defeat Purdue, drew just over 14.8 million viewers across TBS, TNT and truTV. Robert Seidman, who operates the SportsTVRatings account on X, was the first to post the number.

The overall number is up from last year’s championship game between UConn and San Diego State, which had 14.7 viewers. That game, however, was a record low, down 15% in ratings and 14% in viewership from the year before.

To put the numbers into perspective, this is only the second time a men’s national title game in basketball has been seen by less than 16 million viewers.

This also marks the first time the women’s championship game has outdrawn the men. The Iowa-South Carolina matchup on Sunday, which featured the final collegiate game for superstar Caitlin Clark, drew an average of 18.7 million viewers.

Earlier today it was reported that the men’s semifinal games on Saturday averaged 12.84 million viewers, which was up 4& over last year.