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Liam McHugh: Paul Bissonnette Is Still A Little Kid Around Wayne Gretzky

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Liam McHugh is one of the many NBC hockey personalities that made the move to TNT before the start of last season when the network took over part of the league’s TV rights. He has been at the center of the network’s studio coverage alongside Wayne Gretzky, Rick Tocchet, Anson Carter, and Paul Bissonnette.

On the most recent episode of the Sports Talkers Podcast, McHugh told host Stephen Strom that it is easy to understand why Bissonnette has been a breakout star on the show.

“He’s never going after anyone or anything in a negative way,” McHugh said. “There is a joy and a passion to everything he does. I don’t think he is ever trying to put anyone down or make anyone feel terrible.”

He said there is a “boyish charm” to Paul Bissonnette that audiences see. Biz’s colleagues see it whenever he is around The Great One.

“He is still a little kid, so he enjoys the stories and wants to ask Gretzky every question possible, but at the same time, he’s still Biz, so there’s no filter.”

McHugh says that as much as it is clear Bissonnette adores Gretzky, he has no problem making fun of his hero for his wardrobe choices.

As a professional broadcaster, McHugh says one thing that is clear is that Biz understands his role and the value of being the entertaining one on the TNT set. That doesn’t mean that the journeyman forward understands the sport any less than the rest of the cast.

“Listen, if he just wanted to be a straight-up analyst and nothing else and do no entertainment value, he could analyze any game at any time,” McHugh said. “He watches more hockey than anyone.”

Rather than try to analyze why Paul Bissonnette has become a star so quickly, Liam McHugh said it can best be explained with an old entertainment industry cliche.

“To use one of those weird Hollywood lines, the camera loves him. It does! It just does.”

Rich Zeoli Has ‘Senioritis’ Awaiting Move to Afternoons

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Yesterday, 1210 WPHT announced a lineup shuffle. Morning host Rich Zeoli is moving to afternoons, while Nick Kayal will slide into the morning shift. Zeoli joked he’s already struggling.

“I’ve got senioritis. It’s like when you were in high school and had already gotten in to college, and you’re thinking ‘What the hell am I doing this for?'”, Zeoli said. “What’s the point?”

“The point is you’ve got a paycheck every two weeks,” 1210 WPHT Brand Manager and co-host Greg Stocker quipped.

“I’ve got senioritis! I remember when I got my acceptance letter from the University of Maryland, and I put it on the fridge, and I thought ‘Welp, I’m done with high school. That’s enough of that’. But apparently I had to show my high school diploma to get into Maryland”, Zeoli continued.

The host then told a story about a missing library book during his senior year, and his high school threatened to withhold his diploma until he returned the book. He was forced to purchase the book from Borders and return the brand new copy to the school.

Craig Carton: AppleTV+ Shouldn’t Have Answered The Phone For YES Network Trade

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A report from Andrew Marchand of The New York Post claimed YES Network, owned in-part by the New York Yankees, made several offers to AppleTV+ in regards to its scheduled broadcast of the Yankees and Boston Red Sox as Aaron Judge chases the franchise and American League record for home runs in a single season. WFAN host Craig Carton was dumbfounded by the proposals.

Carton originally blamed the Yankees greed for the game airing on AppleTV+, before co-host Evan Roberts set him straight.

“Because the New York Yankees sold their rights to everybody with a blank check in front of them, they are now faced with the reality that their greed is gonna result in a momentous, historical moment not being broadcast by their broadcast team,” Carton said.

“If you wanna blame every owner, and say ‘Hey, you all signed off on it’, I understand where you’re coming from on this. But Major League Baseball made the decision to cut a deal with AppleTV+,” Roberts countered.

Carton then pointed out how preposterous the idea was for YES Network to either air the game in conjunction with AppleTV+, or for Yankees television play-by-play announcer — and New York afternoon radio competitor — Michael Kay to call the game for the streaming platform.

“Memo to YES, and the New York Yankees, who own a piece of the YES Network: If I’m AppleTV+ — and whatever that check was that I wrote, it was big — this is the moment for me,” Carton said. “This is when I get to bring new people and new eyeballs to my streaming service. And I’m sure they’ll have more signups than they’ve had almost any other day of the week. If you’re AppleTV+, why would you even answer the phone if the YES Network calls?”

“Sometimes a guy calls you in Fantasy sports and says ‘I want your best player’, and you don’t even make a counter offer because you’re like ‘There’s literally nothing on your roster that would make me agree to this trade’,” Roberts hypothesized. “If I’m AppleTV+ — let’s play the negotiation game — is there anything that could be offered to you that would make you give up the exclusivity?”

“No! That’s what you paid for!”, Carton exclaimed. “Great luck! It worked out where you’re most likely gonna have a game on AppleTV+ where something historical is might happen!”

Nick Kayal Move Highlights Growing Appetite for News/Talk

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Sports Talk to News Talk.

The trend continued this week when Nick Kayal announced would be the next morning show host at WPHT in Philadelphia. In full disclosure, I know Nick, as I was an intern as he was an employee and growing his career at 97.5 The Fanatic in Philadelphia. Nick built a very solid sports talk resume, but decided to make the move to news/politics.

As I was reading his announcement on social media this week, I felt like I was reading my own reasons for leaving sports talk for news talk on a permanent basis five years ago. Nick wrote, “Over the past 6-7 years, my apetite for political content has increased and now I finally get to voice my opinion on these subject matters.”

Expect this to be a trend that we continue to see in our business and there are several reasons why this will happen.

First off, sports talk is oversaturated. There’s just too much of it, and at some point we’ve crossed the threshold where supply has exceeded demand. There will always be room for great sports talk hosts, but jobs aren’t growing in that space, and in fact, are likely to shrink in future years.

Meantime, if we flip to the News Talk side of the business, the number of jobs expanding is admittedly also not a big part of the equation, but there is less competition in the space for those jobs when compared to Sports Talk, especially when it comes to younger hosts and employees. 

I say the following with all the love in the world for my News Talk colleagues: I was at this week’s FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform) Radio Row event, and as a 34-year-old, I felt like a college kid given that I was significantly younger than most of my fellow hosts. There’s nothing wrong with that for right now, as many of them are still sharp, on their game, and delivering great ratings and revenue for their respective stations, but if we look 5-10 years down the road, they may want to find themselves on a beach or ski slope on a more regular basis. So, the next wave of News Talk hosts may not be in the News Talk space right now, and given the greater number of employees in Sports Talk, they may very well be over there. 

This is a natural migration for both sides. The News Talk bench is not deep and as the younger Sports Talk employee gets older, their interests may change. Most 25-35 year-olds care more about sports than news and politics. But as a generation that grew up during the explosion of Sports Talk approaches and enters their 40’s, their interests and desires could shift as well.

Just as important in this conversation is the fact that we all know sports, politics and culture continue to collid, for better or for worse, and those who may have more conservative-leaning beliefs and opinions are more likely to try and make that move.

As someone who spent several years in sports talk and maintain strong relationships there, I know those who don’t pray at the “Alter of Woke” feel like their opinions aren’t welcomed and will be shunned by their colleagues and bosses. They mask it, as they like to a prefer to talk about the games anyway. But when sports and culture collide, they clam up or just toe the line. 

How long will that last? How long will they want to continue to bottle it up?

I’m not here to answer it for them, but I know that for me, there was a point where I thought I’d rather spend four hours a day talking about things that impact my city, state and country than discussing whether or not a quarterback missed an open receiver on 3rd and 10 or a pitcher was left in a game too long. 

Don’t get me wrong, I still love sports and love being a sports fan, but hosting a daily, local show where that is part of the job became less appealing when given alternative options. And I don’t believe I will be alone in this regard, especially as we move forward through the next several years in our business. 

Additionally, the icing on the cake is that in many towns, major sports news that a News Talk host will find interesting is, in fact, news, and will be a fit for the program. In Philadelphia, the Eagles are news on Monday after a loss to the Giants. In Kansas City, the Chiefs are news. Nothing is bigger. I do a Chiefs segment on Friday and Monday during football season. You can’t do four hours on it, but mixing it in is part of the job if you’re in a big sports town. 

Now, there is a downside. As I told Nick Kayal in a personal note after his announcement, “Be prepared to be shunned by some of your former sports colleagues”. 

A sad reality, but true, in my experience. Hey, that’s the “Tolerant Left”, right?

If you can get over that, which should be easy, then come on over. We’re having fun, making great content, and always looking for who and what is next.

Brandon Tatum Recalls Interacting with Fans in Arizona, D.C.

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Salem radio host Brandon Tatum Wednesday shared several stories about interactions with fans from a recent trip he took from Arizona to Washington D.C. 

The “Officer Tatum Show” host talked about the impact of those encounters which included a selfie in the cockpit with one of the pilots on his flight. 

“Just to give you an example of how some people react when they run into me at the airport. I came from D.C. and I’m going through the security line and the TSA lady says oh my god, Officer Tatum.” 

Tatum was a seven-year veteran of the Tucson Police Department before he began his career in media. He co-founded Blexit with Candace Owens. 

Tatum admitted that the TSA officer’s response surprised him.  

“While I was on the airplane in Charlotte traveling to Phoenix the pilot sat next to me and tried to get my attention while I was on the phone. As we were getting ready to leave, the flight attendant said the pilot wanted to speak with me.” 

Tatum said he made his way to the cockpit and ended taking a selfie with the flight crew. 

“On a single trip from D.C. to Phoenix I ran into three people that recognized me,” he said. “It’s incredibly demanding, the types of things that we do, being on the radio and social media, but it’s incredibly rewarding.”

Fox Nation Announces Debut Date for ‘Cops’

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FOX Nation announced that it is expanding its library of “COPS” shows with new episodes starting next week.

In a release, the network said the new season will premiere with the first three 20-minute episodes dropping on September 30th, followed by a new offering debuting every Friday at 6 PM/ET throughout the fall.

“It has been nearly one year since we greenlit COPS and the reaction has been positively overwhelming,” said Jason Klarman, president of the streaming service.

FOX Nation will continue to offer a free, one-year subscription to all first responders, including police officers, firefighters, emergency medical technicians and paramedics (EMS personnel).
 
“Our subscribers continue to flock to the series, and we’re excited to provide our engaged audience with more of the exclusive content they have come to rely on from FOX Nation,” added Klarman.

Last year, the Paramount Network canceled “COPS” following the murder of George Floyd. In reviving the series, Fox Nation has also picked up an additional 15 episodes from the 32nd season.

FOX Nation is available at foxnation.com

ESPN Shows Foresight With Monday Night Football Doubleheader Timing

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The Monday Night Football doubleheader was a little bit different this time around for ESPN.

First, it came in Week 2 instead of Week 1. And then, the games were staggered 75 minutes apart on two different channels, the Titans and Bills beginning on ESPN at 7:15 PM ET and the Vikings at the Eagles starting at 8:30 PM on ABC and ESPN+. This was a departure from the usual schedule in which the games kicked off at 7:00 PM ET and then 10:00 PM ET with the latter game on the West Coast.

ESPN is obviously testing something, and it’s worth poking around at why the network wouldn’t follow the schedule it has used for the last 16 years, scheduling kickoffs at 7:00 PM and then 10:00 PM ET on their primary channel. That’s the typical approach, right? The NFL is the most valuable offering in all of sports and ESPN would have at least six consecutive hours of live programming without any other game to switch to.

Instead, they staggered the starts so the second game kicked off just before the first game reached halftime. They placed the games on two different channels, which risked cannibalizing their audience. Why? Well, it’s the same reason that ESPN was so excited about the last year’s Manningcast that it’s bringing it back for 10 weeks this season. ESPN is not just recognizing the reality of how their customers behave, but they’re embracing it.

Instead of hoping with everything they have that the customer stays in one place for the duration of the game, they’re recognizing the reality that they will leave and providing another product within their portfolio to be a destination when they do.

It’s the kind of experiment everyone in broadcasting should be investigating because, for all the talk about meeting the customer where they are, we still tend to be a little bit stubborn about adapting to what they do. 

Customers have more choices than ever when it comes to media consumption. First, cable networks softened the distribution advantages of broadcast networks, and now digital offerings have eroded the distribution advantages of cable networks. It’s not quite a free-for-all, but the battle for viewership is more intense, more wide open than ever because that viewer has so many options of not just when and where but how they will consume media.

Programmers have a choice in how to react to this. On the one hand, they can hold on tighter to the existing model and try to squeeze as much out of it as they can. If ESPN was thinking this way it would stack those two Monday night games one after the other just like it always has and hope like hell for a couple of close games to juice the ratings. Why would you make it impossible for your customer to watch both of these products you’ve paid so much to televise?

I’ve heard radio programmers and hosts recite take this same approach for more than 10 years now when it comes to making shows available on-demand. Why would you give your customers the option of consuming the product in a way that’s not as remunerative or in a way that is not measured?

That thinking is outdated and it is dangerous from an economic perspective because it means you’re trying to make the customer behave in your best interest by restricting their choices. And maybe that will work. Maybe they like that program enough that they’ll consume it in the way you’d prefer or maybe they decide that’s inconvenient or annoying or they decide to try something else and now this customer who would have listened to your product in an on-demand format is choosing to listen to someone else’s product entirely.

After all, you’re the only one that is restricting that customer’s choices because you’re the only one with a desire to keep your customer where he is. Everyone else is more than happy to give your customer something else. 

There’s a danger in holding on too tightly to the existing model because the tighter you squeeze, the more customers will slip through your fingers, and if you need a physical demonstration to complete this metaphor go grab a handful of sand and squeeze it hard.

Your business model is only as good as its ability to predict the behavior of your customers, and as soon as it stops doing that, you need to adjust that business model. Don’t just recognize the reality that customers today will exercise the freedom that all these media choices provide, embrace it.

Offer more products. Experiment with more ways to deliver those products. The more you attempt to dictate the terms of your customer’s engagement with your product, the more customers you’ll lose, and by accepting this you’ll open yourself to the reality that if your customer is going to leave your main offering, it’s better to have them hopping to another one of your products as opposed to leaving your network entirely.

Think in terms of depth of engagement, and breadth of experience. That’s clearly what ESPN is doing because conventional thinking would see the Manningcast as a program that competes with the main Monday Night Football broadcast, that cannibalizes it. ESPN sees it as a complimentary experience. An addition to the main broadcast, but it also has the benefit that if the customer feels compelled to jump away from the main broadcast – for whatever reason – it has another ESPN offering that they may land on.

I’ll be watching to see what ESPN decides going forward. The network will have three Monday Night Football doubleheaders beginning next year, and the game times have not been set. Will they line them up back-to-back as they had up until this year? If they do it will be a vote of confidence that its traditional programming approach that evening is still viable. But if they overlap those games going forward, it’s another sign that less is not more when it comes to giving your customers a choice in products.

Four Keys to Exude Confidence in Sales

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How often have you been told to get excited about selling a show or play-by-play product? Or how you must be confident that the remote you are pitching will “work” or they won’t buy it?

To me, you either have the passion and belief, or you don’t. And, if you find that you don’t, there are things you can do to change that around. We are our biggest client. Before we ask others to buy something from us, we must believe it ourselves—at least some part of it. Our best clients have loyalty to us and trust us. That comes from how we present the remedies for their business pain. And none of us feel confident 100% of the time. We must work at staying confident. Great teams practice for a reason and have success. Even reporters need to have confidence in their questions at a press conference. Here are Four Keys to Confidence.

1: Looks count. And I mean how we look. Our clothing should be neat and presentable, and of the highest quality you can afford. Clothes make the person, and they can shape how others see you. Looking customers in the eye, smiling, and standing straight isn’t old-fashioned. It’s just doing the basics, so they listen to your ideas and not focus on anything else. 

2: The feeling. If you are scared, the client will say no for whatever reason and replace those thoughts. What’s the worst thing that can happen if they say no? Define your fears so you can examine them. Are you scared they won’t like you? Are you running out of prospects? If they turn you down, will you miss your goal or lose your job? Things these things through and answer the questions. Maybe you need more friends, help with prospecting, and either reassurance from your manager you are not going to be fired or a plan B for your next job. Once these fears are thought through, replace fear with excitement because you are alive and swinging the bat like every other successful executive. EVERYBODY loses sales. The President of the United States loses deals too. Get over your fear of sales.

3: Success stories work. It is the key to gaining confidence in what I am selling- seeing that it worked for others! Keep letters of recommendation, positive google reviews, and case stories of other clients who have succeeded with what you are selling. Be specific. Give examples of what other companies had experienced when they purchased a schedule or promotion from your company. If you don’t have success stories, find them. Start creating them or asking your manager to do it if they don’t exist. 

4: PRACTICE. Until you have successfully sold yourself in the mirror or sold the play-by-play sponsorship to your wife or friend, you may not be ready to sell it to a new client. On the drive to the client, rehearse how you present the benefits of what you are selling. Once you have gone through the reps and feel comfortable with the pitch, handling price objections, and stalling tactics, you will quickly transfer that skill you have practiced when you play. To me, you earn what you learn. 

If you look good, have no fear, use testimony, and practice well, you can turn your frown into a crown. Sell like an ace and live like a KING. 

Gordy Rush Wins Radio Wayne Award for Market Manager of the Year

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Guaranty Media’s Gordy Rush has won the Radio Wayne Award for Market Manager of the Year.

Rush, the GM of Guaranty Media in Baton Rouge, heads four radio stations: 104.5 ESPN Baton Rouge, Eagle 98.1 – The Rock Station, 100.7 The Tiger – Louisiana’s Country Station, and Talk 107.3. His radio career spans more than three decades, including 25 with Guaranty Media which is the only locally owned and operated broadcast group in Baton Rouge.

The Radio Wayne Awards are named for Wayne Cornils, a champion and pioneer for all parts of radio from programming, to sales to engineering.

Jeremy Marks-Peltz To Leave ESPN West Palm Tonight

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ESPN West Palm will have a new host for ESPN West Palm Tonight after this evening’s broadcast. The current host, Jeremy Marks-Peltz, has announced that he will be leaving the show.

He made the announcement via his Facebook page and the radio station tweeted the news to its listeners. Marks-Peltz said that Cyrus Wittig will be taking over for him.

Marks-Peltz wrote that while he was leaving the air, he would still be working with ESPN West Palm and Good Karma Brands in the same capacity he is now, just without the show.