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Fox Business Sees Second Republican Debate Drop, But Still Impressive

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While not as potent in the ratings as its first debate from late August, the second Republican presidential debate of the 2024 election cycle still delivered well for Fox Business Network and also for the competing networks that offered post-debate analysis.

The event, which took place on Sep. 27 at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California, was moderated by a journalist from each respective outlet covering it: Fox News Channel’s Dana Perino, Fox Business Network’s Stuart Varney and Univision’s Ilia Calderón.

Participating in the debate were Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, former Vice President Mike Pence, former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott and North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum. Present in the first debate from Milwaukee, but failing to qualify to attend this debate was former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson.

Also absent, although by his own choosing, was current GOP frontrunner Donald Trump. He had not appeared at the first debate as well.

The second Republican presidential debate drew a combined 9.32 million total viewers across three outlets, according to Nielsen Media Research: 6.693 million on Fox News Channel, 1.817 million on the Fox Business Network, and 813,000 on Spanish language network Univision.

This was approximately 3.5 million fewer people than the first debate’s linear TV audience from Aug. 23. Nonetheless, it was still, by far, TV’s most-watched program in prime time despite airing directly opposite the season premiere of CBS’ Survivor (5.24 million) and the season finale of NBC’s America’s Got Talent (5.36 million).

Survivor is Wednesday’s usual top demo draw in adults 18-49; on this night, it delivered a 0.84 rating which equates to 1.1 million viewers within the age 18-49 range. Yet, the debate also topped that with a combined 1.1 adults 18-49 rating (approx. 1.45 million viewers aged 18 thru 49); FNC with a 0.66 A18-49 rating, FBN with 0.25 A18-49 and Univision 0.19.

Certainly, FNC most benefitted from post-debate analysis coverage. A special edition of Hannity following the debate posted 3.14 million viewers, which actually exhibited slightly higher retention from its debate lead-in (47 percent) than what the respective hour did back on Aug. 23; 4.39 million, out of the 11.06 million FNC viewers; thus, then retaining 40 percent.

MSNBC and CNN saw upticks in audiences within the 11 PM hour with their respective post-debate analyses even though they were not the networks televising the debate. Here are how each increased from the 10 PM hour on both Aug. 23 and Sep. 27:

August 23, 2023

  • MSNBC 10-11 p.m.: 1.922 million viewers
  • MSNBC 11 p.m.-midnight: 2.720 million viewers (+41.5 percent)
  • CNN 10-11 p.m.: 0.736 million viewers
  • CNN 11 p.m.-midnight: 1.516 million viewers (+105.97 percent)

September 27, 2023

  • MSNBC 10-11 p.m.: 1.676 million viewers
  • MSNBC 11 p.m.-midnight: 2.203 million viewers (+31.4 percent)
  • CNN 10-11 p.m.: 0.529 million viewers
  • CNN 11 p.m.-midnight: 0.778 million viewers (+47.1 percent)

Cable news averages for September 25-October 1, 2023:

Total Day (Sep. 25-Oct. 1 @ 6 a.m.-5:59 a.m.)

  • Fox News Channel: 1.199 million viewers; 148,000 adults 25-54
  • MSNBC: 0.943 million viewers; 95,000 adults 25-54
  • CNN: 0.477 million viewers; 87,000 adults 25-54
  • Newsmax: 0.186 million viewers; 17,000 adults 25-54
  • NewsNation: 0.063 million viewers; 9,000 adults 25-54

Prime Time (Sep. 25-30 @ 8-11 p.m.; Oct. 1 @ 7-11 p.m.)

  • Fox News Channel: 2.179 million viewers; 274,000 adults 25-54
  • MSNBC: 1.516 million viewers; 138,000 adults 25-54
  • CNN: 0.574 million viewers; 113,000 adults 25-54
  • Newsmax: 0.318 million viewers; 28,000 adults 25-54
  • NewsNation: 0.094 million viewers; 20,000 adults 25-54

Allen Stiles Joining Chris Watkins for Middays on Sactown Sports

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Sactown Sports 1140AM has announced Allen Stiles will join Chris Watkins for the station’s midday program.

“The energy, enthusiasm, and fresh perspective that Stiles and Watkins bring to Sactown Sports is simply infectious,” said Bonneville Sacramento Senior Vice President and Market Manager Steve Cottingim. “And as the Sacramento Kings season begins, the addition of this new show again highlights our commitment to Sacramento sports.”

Stiles joins the station after previously working at 95.7 The Game in San Francisco.

Watkins was paired with Whitey Gleason until he shifted to afternoons with Kyle Draper after the departures of Nick Cattles and Ramie Makhlouf. He had been hosting Chris & Company on an interim basis as the station decided on a long-term solution.

With the addition of Stiles and Watkins, Sactown Sports has now set its weekday lineup.

The Carmichael Dave Show with Jason Ross continues to air from 6-10 AM, followed by the newly paired Stiles and Watkins. Meanwhile, The Drive Guys with Gleason and Draper host from 2-6 PM.

Stiles and Watkins will officially begin on Thursday, October 26th.

Bill Simmons: ‘You Can’t Just Be Famous and Have a Podcast’ Anymore

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The Ringer founder Bill Simmons recently spoke at Bloomberg Screentime about the business of podcasting, and shared his thoughts about where the medium is headed.

When asked about the where the industry went wrong, Simmons said he hadn’t believe it did anything overtly incorrect yet.

“I don’t think the industry went wrong. I just feel like things move in phases and you have little errors, right?…Some things work. Some mistakes were made. And I think by 2023 I think people really have a sense of what works, what doesn’t work, and what the challenges are,” Simmons said. “I’m pretty bullish on it because I just think we’re moving into a new era of wherever it’s going.

“And the old era is definitely done. The deals are changing. I think the standards for what works for podcasts — people have a better idea. And so you can’t just be famous and have a podcast. That can’t be. It can’t be the sixth thing you’re doing. It can’t be something that you didn’t spend any time on,” Simmons acknowledged. “People are making choices and the quality of those choices and the things you’re picking has to hit a certain standard. I think everybody’s starting to realize that and the stuff that is elevating above is the stuff that’s good. It’s either the first or the second most important thing the person’s doing.”

Bill Simmons was asked what The Ringer considers a successful podcast audience but admitted that isn’t how the company measures success.

“I try not to look at the audiences. I have an awesome inner circle and they’ll tell me if something’s doing bad. But for the most part, I honestly genuinely don’t know what Matt (Belloni’s) audience is. For example, I don’t know when like Derek Thompson’s audience is, but I know that those guys have a piece of turf that matters for what they’re trying to do and if there’s some big topic or some important topic, I’m going to care what they think…There’s 20 million podcasts out there. How do you stand out? How are you different? And if you’re competing against a bunch of people in the same space, why are people gonna listen to you instead of this other podcast? That’s how we think about it.”

Bill Simmons later said that the more podcasts that start, the more likely it is that the bigger podcasts will see growth due to an overwhelming amount of choices and the familiarity that large shows provide.

“People kind of gravitate toward the trusted people, the bigger people, the people they know, and the best stuff. So in a weird way, the more podcasts that there are, the better it is for the bigger podcasts because there’s too many choices. People are like, ‘Oh, I know that one’. If it’s a personality, or it’s an angle? I think that’s gonna win.”

Anthony Lima: I Have No Interest in Doing ‘Fire the Coach’ Radio

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The Cleveland Browns saw an unexpected victory of the San Francisco 49ers Sunday. However, Browns fans weren’t as excited as Cleveland media members, and 92.3 The Fan morning co-host Anthony Lima has seen enough.

During The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima Tuesday, Lima took out his frustration with callers to the station with a more than two-minute rant against those who simply want the hosts to shout about coaches needing fired any time adversity hits.

“I want to be an engaging show that’s available for everybody,” Lima said. “We don’t censor callers, but we actually probably should start a little bit…I just don’t know what planet I’m on that we’re sitting here excited about evaluating all the big wins. They’re doing this in Pittsburgh. They’re doing this everywhere in San Francisco. They are not happy about the play calling for Shanahan. What I don’t understand is how we become this lowest common denominator thing.

“What is the point of this? It’s an exercise in futility going forward for these fans. I can’t believe that we have gotten it down to the basic level of just wanting to fire the coach after every game. You’re smarter than that,” Lima continued.

“I thought we were a better football town than that. And I thought this whole thing was a build-up into something more special, more spectacular than just doing ‘fire the coach’ radio after a win over the 49ers, a team that nobody thought we had a chance to be going into this game. Every national pundit, every local pundit, all said we are probably gonna get our asses kicked this week. You beat the 49ers and we’re doing ‘fire the coach’ radio? I’m sorry. I have no interest in doing that going forward. I really don’t.”

Scott Van Pelt: Some People in Our Business Only Tell You What Stinks

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A viral moment from NFL Network’s Steve Smith last week continues to elicit reactions in the sports media world. While not discussing Smith directly, SportsCenter anchor Scott Van Pelt said he tries a different approach.

During his weekly appearance on The Michael Kay Show, Van Pelt argued that players, especially in the NFL, don’t often get as much respect as they deserve from previous players turned analysts.

“This is why I want to go into like a deep dive of the philosophy about our business. There are people that traffic in telling you everybody’s garbage and the hot takes, and this and that and everybody stinks,” Van Pelt said.

He continued by adding that his approach is different because of a simple thought process.

“I take a different sort of tact just because I think of myself. And I imagined myself in that moment. And I ask myself, ‘How would that look?’ and we all know the answer that we wouldn’t look good,” joked Scott Van Pelt. “And so I try to show a bit more respect for the folks that are in the arena.”

Van Pelt’s comments came after The Michael Kay Show co-host Peter Rosenberg argued that overly critical fans should have to attempt a Pros vs Joes style competition and play one play against NFL offensive and defensive linemen to understand how difficult the job actually is.

Nielsen: Sports Television Viewership Up 360%

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The return of football to television this past August helped drive an upsurge in television viewership, propelling the total share of linear television to above 50% in the latest Gauge Report from Nielsen Media Research. Broadcast viewing in the persons aged 18-49 demographic increased by 35%, while those ages 25 to 54 augmented their viewing by nearly 33%. As a whole, broadcast television increased by about 13% in September – 2.5 share points – and consumption of sports programming inflated by 360%. Many prime-time football games are presented on traditional broadcast television, including ESPN College Football Saturday on ABC and Sunday Night Football on NBC among others. As a whole, the category equated to 23% of total television consumption in the Nielsen report.

As it pertains to cable viewership, the category enjoyed a 25.5% bump in viewership, and ESPN was responsible for the top-11 telecasts. Out of those 11 telecasts, 10 were related to football, while the outlier was the U.S. Open tennis tournament. Even with amplified levels of sports viewership, overall cable viewing declined by 1.1% over the last month, largely driven by losses in the news and feature film genres. Cable lead the way in linear television viewership, amassing 29.8% of the total day market share for P2+.

Streaming viewing continued its second consecutive month of decline as well; however, Prime Video numbers experienced a 7.5% bump overall. Thursday Night Football, featuring play-by-play announcer Al Michaels, color commentator Kirk Herbstreit and sideline reporter Kaylee Hartung, has reported viewership increases throughout its sophomore season, which includes the league’s inaugural Black Friday game on Nov. 24. Nielsen also shared that other streaming services that enjoyed heightened viewership include Tubi and the Roku Channel.

The Walt Disney Company and Warner Bros. Discovery, both of which have stated their interest in renewing media rights deals with the National Basketball Association, will be able to begin discussions with the league when the 45-day negotiating window opens on March 9, 2024. NBA Commissioner Adam Silver has spoken publicly about how important it is to modernize the viewing experience, which could lead to a hybrid model with both linear television and streaming components in the deal. Max recently launched a direct-to-consumer (DTC) sports tier, while ESPN is working on its own DTC product to reportedly launch in the next two to three years.

Amid the ongoing strikes by the Screen Actors Guild-American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (SAG-AFTRA) against the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP), live sports has the potential to play an even more significant role in the total scope of live programming.

In response to the strikes, ESPN scheduled several of its Monday Night Football games to air simultaneously on ABC, both of which are under ownership of The Walt Disney Company. Disney Chief Executive Officer Bob Iger is reportedly in talks to try to bring two strategic partners to purchase up to 10% of ESPN, and he could also be looking to divest ABC and its owned networks as the business model endures fundamental change.

Longtime ESPN Communications Chief Chris LaPlaca Retiring

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After 43 years at ESPN, Senior Vice President of Corporate Communications Chris LaPlaca has announced his pending retirement.

In a statement posted to X, formerly Twitter, LaPlaca wrote he would be retiring at the end of the calendar year.

“It feels like last week I walked into an office trailer at a little-known TV network called ESPN and used a folding table for my desk. I have a kaleidoscope of memories hurtling through my mind — all the firsts, all the brand extensions, the very first day Disney came to Bristol and changed our trajectory, the relentless focus on evolving still evident today,” LaPlaca added.

“What resonates the most are the exceptional people of this place (starting with my Comms team peeps!) — passionate, smart committed — and it has been my distinct honor and daily pleasure to be your teammate.”

LaPlaca became Senior Vice President of Corporate Communications in 2008 after overseeing public and media relations and consumer communications. Before joining the network in 1980, he worked as an assistant sports information director at Brown University.

Which News Crews Got It Right and Who Got it Wrong in Israel?

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Here is what we learned about the state of international news coverage on broadcast and cable networks. I touched on cable last week so let me start with the performance of the big three. CBS, NBC, and ABC, all stumbled out of the gate.

Since the horrific terrorist attack began on a Saturday, networks were down to skeleton weekend crews. I used to anchor ABC weekends World News so I am familiar with staffing. There are good people on duty, but much fewer. Bureaus are virtually closed or staffed at home with producers on call. One or two correspondents were assigned to cover in Washington and New York. So when a huge story breaks an all-call goes out and all respond. But in today’s budget-cutting reality, there are many fewer people to hear that call, especially overseas.

There are very strong, among the best of the best assigned overseas. At CBS, Holly Williams and Charlie D’Ageta are first-rate. Brave, skilled, and experienced. At NBC, Richard Engel is well versed in the Middle East, and at ABC Ian Pannell and James Longman, both Brits, are experienced war reporters, having gone deep into Ukraine in some hairy conditions.

But, all — except Richard Engel, who lives nearby — work from London. There are no longer real bureaus in Israel or the Arab world. That means not only is response time slowed, but there are no correspondents on the ground cultivating sources or living the experience of the people. That does make a difference.

When foreign correspondents arrive on the scene today, they are reduced to reporting the obvious, pointing at what’s in front of them with little nuance. Lots of what we call in the business, “walk and talk”. Unfortunately, there was lots to see. Unimaginable destruction and human pain. Once the nets got up and running by Monday with all the troops parachuting in and anchors appearing live in Tel Aviv, we began to see their skill at storytelling.

ABC’s David Muir put on a flack jacket and helmet to walk through a kibbutz near the border with Gaza, capturing the horror that happened days before. Honestly, I usually find there is way too much David in Muir’s reporting. But in this case, it brought humanity and reality to the story.

Norah O’Donnell also left the rooftop anchor position to visit and report firsthand the terrifying situation experienced by Israelis attacked, murdered, and kidnapped by terrorists. Lester Holt, a distinguished veteran anchor, seemed off his game. He looked tired and his reports were confined to loved ones and hospitals attending to victims. His reporting seemed detached, even remote when compared to his colleagues at the other networks.

Richard Engel did bring NBC viewers some of the reality and energy that makes war coverage so compelling.

Now to the cables. It’s almost unnecessary to talk about anyone other than CNN on this story. As I covered last week, CNN was strong out of the gate because they have an operating bureau in Jerusalem and has Christianne Amanpour in London to anchor coverage Saturday and parts of Sunday until Anderson Cooper arrived in Tel Aviv. Joining him soon was Erin Burnett.

Both CNN anchors brought empathy and compassion to their heartbreaking live interviews with victims and loved ones, frequently tearing up at their stories. They emphasized their humanity by allowing themselves to feel the pain of those speaking of and in their pain. Norah O’Donnell on CBS showed similar compassion.

The reporting on CNN led by Clarissa Ward — who was in constant danger from incoming rocket fire — and Nic Anderson — also on the front lines — was stellar. CNN’s added advantage is its presence in Gaza .A reporter on the ground there is vital among the cables, this is what CNN does best.

It is surprising to me that MSNBC doesn’t do better, having the resources of NBC available. They anchored from D.C. and New York and rather than emphasizing the on-the-scene reporting focused on analysis and experts. That is all good while covering politics, which MSNBC specializes in, but when war breaks out viewers want to be on the scene.

As for Fox, I don’t consider it a news organization anymore. Its prime-time hosts and the lame attempts at humor on The Five and late-night schtick make them unworthy of review in serious news coverage.

Overall the coverage of this important tragic war has been poignant, valiant, difficult to watch, and vital. Bravo to the brave journalists who risk their lives to keep us informed.

Bob Myers: I Turned Down NBA Jobs to Work at ESPN

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Former Golden State Warriors executive Bob Myers is embarking on his first season working as an NBA analyst at ESPN, and said it was something he was really looking forward to.

During a media call introducing Myers before the start of the NBA season, the former executive was asked if his current role with ESPN was one he foresaw holding until retirement.

“I can’t say. The only conviction that I have is that I was done for now with what that job required. And what that will mean in two years, three years, I just honestly don’t know. I guess I’ve got to be okay not knowing. I don’t really need to know now. It might be harder as things are presented to me to make those decisions,” Myers said. “I’ve had some things presented and pretty easily said, ‘No thank you. I’m flattered but no thank you’.

“But I want to do this. I have three young kids. The Warriors thing, I’ve used this example before, it was like trying to hold on to the tail of a dragon. It was ton of fun, but a ton of work, and I admire any executive that can kind of keep it going for 20 years,” Myers continued. “I did 12, and I just felt like for me, I had to stop. I don’t have a great answer for, is that forever or not, but I know it’s not right now. So that’s kind of what I’m thinking.”

Before joining ESPN, Bob Myers led the Golden State Warriors to four NBA championships as an executive. He also hosted the Lead By Example podcast, which was produced by Omaha Productions through ESPN. He’ll work on NBA Countdown and also on select broadcasts as a game analyst.

Showtime Sports Shutting Down by Year’s End, Stephen Espinoza Expected to Be Part of Layoffs

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Several months after Paramount Global transitioned Showtime from being a standalone brand to an add-on bundled with Paramount+, the company is moving to shut down one of its longstanding departments. Showtime Sports, which has been in existence since March 1986 and a presenter of various boxing matches, will be removed from the company’s portfolio by the end of the year. The company will no longer present boxing matches, according to the report by John Ourand of Sports Business Journal, and is also looking to sell Bellator, the mixed martial arts company it has ownership of. As a result of these business decisions, the company is set to lay off several of its employees, including division president Stephen Espinoza. The exact number of people that will be affected by the move has yet to be determined.

“The company’s decision is not a reflection of the work we have done in recent years, nor of our long and proud history,” Espinoza said in a statement. “…Unfortunately, in a rapidly evolving media marketplace, the company has had to make difficult choices allocating resources, resetting priorities and reshaping its content offering. While today’s news is certainly difficult and disappointing, it is entirely out of our control.”

Aside from boxing, Showtime Sports documentary and digital programming, which encompasses the popular Showtime Basketball brand, are also part of this business decision. It remains unknown if Showtime will carry any sports in the future after a robust programming lineup that included live boxing matchups, basketball programming and in-depth documentaries. The premium subscription network was also the longtime home of Inside the NFL until 2021, which moved to Paramount+ for the next two years. The weekly program now airs on The CW, marking the first time it is outside of a premium subscription service and on cable television.

According to the company’s last earnings report, the company garnered direct-to-consumer subscription revenue growth of 47%, which it was working on aligning with the Paramount+ with Showtime service launch. Paramount Global Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer Naveen K. Chopra expressed that the integration of the two brands represented “an optimized programming strategy” and will continue to improve the efficiency between operating costs and services rendered.

“As we evolve our strategy to more efficiently allocate resources and align our content offering across the business, we’ve made the difficult decision not to move forward with boxing and other content produced by the Showtime sports team,” Paramount Global said in a statement. “Showtime will continue to air and support the remaining 2023 boxing slate and honor obligations through the end of the year.”