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When Does a Broadcaster Wear Out Their Fun Fact?

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Chances are pretty good these days that if someone asks you, ‘Hey have you heard that story about…?’ the answer is going to be yes. With the internet and social media if there’s a blurb about an athlete you’re probably already looped in on the anecdote. Right?

Why do I ask? My colleague Demetri Ravanos, related a story to me about something he heard on the Giants/Panthers preseason telecast the other day. The Giants broadcasters related a story after running back Chuba Hubbard carried the ball for Carolina. They referred to Hubbard playing at Oklahoma State for coach Mike Gundy, who owns exotic pets, including a donkey.

“I’ve got a donkey named Blackjack, and he’s got a really bad attitude. So that’s why I like him,” Gundy told ESPN. Only problem was that interview with the Worldwide Leader was done in 2017. For many, that story is ‘been there done that’ several times over.

Demetri asked me something to the effect “As a play-by-play announcer, how do you decide on using a fact or story about a player, without overkill?” It was a great question, so let’s dive into the subject. It’s a complicated one because it’s multi-layered. To me, it’s not only about an overkilled story, but even a “tired” storyline about a team or player as well.

For example, I’m sure Cubs fans were tired of hearing about the team’s World Series drought that reached 108 years before taking the crown in 2016. Tom Brady’s signature fact that he was picked in the 6th round of the 2000 NFL Draft at choice 199 was getting a bit old. I’ll bet you knew that Wade Boggs ate chicken before every game too, right? Cleveland Browns fans grew tired of hearing about all their quarterbacking problems and the list goes on and on.

Sometimes, we as announcers hook on to a fact and have a hard time letting it go. It’s not quite a crutch, but a go-to when needed. The story is in your back pocket, easily accessible, and committed to memory. It might be about where a player went to college or their hometown. Maybe it’s a little ditty about who their favorite team was growing up. You’ve heard them all before, especially those of you who listen to every game and every word.

So, is it a problem or just a nuisance to hardcore fans? Does it only bother those who have to listen, for whatever reason, to the opposing team’s broadcast? Can we pin this issue only on national broadcasters? The answer could simply be yes. But it’s a little more complicated than just that.

As broadcasters, you can’t assume that everyone is listening/watching every game, every inning, every quarter, or every half. Sometimes fans will make a bigger deal about a repeat story, or nugget, because the die-hard fan, is in fact doing all of the above. Broadcasters never know if a first-time listener/viewer has ever heard this fact before. You can’t assume that they have or not. It’s a fine line to walk, angering a big-time fan or enlightening a new fan.

Stories that seem overcooked could still be of value to these coast-to-coast games because there’s a good chance there are viewers not rooting for either team. Maybe they don’t even follow that team or player, so to them, it’s not something they’ve already heard countless times.

I also think that heartwarming stories can last a lot longer than other tidbits. The trials and tribulations of the 33-year-old rookie making his Major League debut finally is one of those that don’t expire right away. Drew Maggi’s road to the bigs took 13 years of toiling in the minor leagues. He got a standing ovation by the crowd. That one is worth playing in heavy rotation, since Maggi wasn’t a sure thing to stick around. In fact, 12 days after he was called up, he was outrighted to the minors.

Stories of perseverance or overcoming illness are always relevant to me. On the perseverance side, there’s Jon Singleton of the Astros and his story. Out of baseball after a drug issue, he cleaned up his act and was signed by Houston and this year hit his first Major League home run since 2015. These stories are inspiring and need to be told.

How do we figure out what is inspiring and what is tired? Announcers need to use the resources at their disposal. Media relations departments can be of great value in determining what is important at that moment and where they should focus the commentary. National broadcasters rely on these professionals more in the sense that they don’t cover the team on a regular basis.

If you have a question about what might be a good nugget about a player you’re broadcasting against, why not ask the other team’s broadcasters? They will certainly have a grip on how many times they’ve used that particular bit of information and maybe even how it’s been received. Opposing beat writers are probably the ones who originally dug up the information in the first place, so that might be a spot to go when in doubt as well.

There’s another great way to find out about old info and get new information. Talking to the players themselves. This isn’t always possible for the national folks, but certainly, the local announcers can use the resource for accurate and up-to-date information. The players will tell you if a storyline about them, a teammate, or the team itself is old and overdone.

Stories are the basis of a lot of what play-by-play sports are all about. Announcers by trade are storytellers. Just make sure you are telling the ones that have been researched, vetted, and trusted. Did you ever hear the one about…

How Much Patience Do You Need for Your Rush Limbaugh Replacement Show?

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How long do you give a show to work on a news/talk station? It’s a real dilemma for many stations after the passing of Rush Limbaugh. 

If you work for Cox, iHeart, or Cumulus, your new show is part of your corporate package. What happens if you or your employers picked wrong? What now, if you can’t get out of a show that is not working for your market?

Whether it is news/talk or sports talk, the entire lineup on your station is like several morning shows. A music station just has one morning show. The rest is just the music of the format. If you want to kill a music station, keep changing morning shows. It takes time for the audience to build a relationship with the host or team. 

If it is a new local show on your news/talk station, it takes time for the host to connect with the audience, even if they have been in the market for years. Changing the lineup should be carefully executed with a long-term commitment to the new show. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, Dan Bongino, Erick Erickson, Dennis Prager, Markley, Van Camp, and Robbins, Todd Starnes, and The Dana Show were offered for that time slot. Most of these shows did not have the strong ratings record that is often used as a guide to success. It was a crap shoot. 

If you were not owned by a company supporting a particular show, you had to make a guess.  So, three hours on your station has changed, and for many stations, Limbaugh was the highest-rated show. Obviously, every radio station manager was worried about the choice. 

At my station, we went with Clay & Buck. It was not because of any inside information. We felt that both hosts had long-term runs in syndication. It was a shotgun marriage, but I felt that it would be difficult to compare the Clay and Buck show to Rush Limbaugh. 

It was going to be different. I personally did not want listeners to compare the choice to Rush Limbaugh.  We also realized that we would not know whether or not this would work for two years.  Patience was key. Two years. Two long years. Well, two years in, and Clay and Buck have blown up with Rush Limbaugh-style numbers. The boys are number one in the men 35-64 demographic. The show appears to be working. I am not criticizing the other shows. This was the right move for my station. 

We live in a win-now world. Sometimes foresight and patience are considered old school.  

Changing shows can be just a terrible idea. A while back, I was in a building where the General Manager was frustrated with a morning show. It was on an Adult Contemporary station that was winning the workday against the other AC. The morning show was narrowly losing to the Morning Show at the Heritage AC Station across town. So, the General Manager entered the Program Director role and hired a dynamic woman with a history in another format to replace the station’s show. 

Well, it was a huge failure. The change butchered the ratings on the station and damaged the actual Program Director’s position with the company. The new morning show didn’t fit the brand of the station. You must find the right fit. 

Some shows sound perfect coming out of your station’s speaker. Years ago, I added a show that was doing well nationally. This show was on top stations, getting buzz, and I thought it would be perfect for the market that I was in at the time. I soon realized though that show was not going to work the first time that I heard it come out of the speaker. It didn’t feel like my former station. I kept with the show for two years and then moved on. I couldn’t change out of the show immediately, because it would be too disruptive to the station. I took ownership that the show didn’t work in that market. 

I have noticed that some stations are already swapping out of their choice to replace Limbaugh. I am obviously not in their seat, but I would give your replacement more time.  Patience is a virtue in these situations. If it’s not popping by the end of this year, it may be the time. Sometimes shows don’t work. The show may just be what it is. That is another quandary.  If the new show is not underperforming the station, you may be fine. Just because Clay and Buck are crushing it for me, doesn’t mean that it will work for you.  

If you are thinking about changing, call Program Directors who are carrying the show you are considering. PDs are inherently glass-half-full people unless they know lightning in a bottle has been captured. 

Realize that your station is different now. No Rush Limbaugh means change. Have you updated your station’s overall sound? Are you using the same station imaging voice? 

Your station may need a fresh new coat of paint and perhaps a new attitude. Dress up the imaging with updated promo beds for the shows. I usually will scour my imaging service for a bed that feels like my station. Every station that I have programmed has its own personality.  Find that and make sure that everything around the station sounds fresh. 

I would not swap out your Limbaugh replacement if the ratings are consistent with the rest of the station. If it is underperforming the lead-in and the show following, I think you probably need to move onto something new. 

Mike Golic & Mike Golic Jr. to Launch Live Morning Show for DraftKings

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Three years removed from their time together on ESPN Radio, Mike Golic and his son Mike Golic Jr. are reuniting for a live sports talk show. This time it will be for DraftKings.

Starting Monday, GoJo and Golic will air live weekdays from 8-10 a.m. eastern on Samsung TV Plus and DraftKingsNetwork.com. Jessie Coffield will also be a part of the program.

Golic Jr. told The Athletic that he and his dad had been considering getting back together for a while. The timing felt right.

“It seemed like people enjoyed it before,” he said. “It did not end on our terms with our show last time around, so we sort of get a chance to go out here and write the ending however we see fit.”

“As long as I did a show at ESPN, from Tony Bruno to Greeny (Mike Greenberg) to Wingo, the most fun I had was doing it with one of my kids,” Golic added. “So this was a no-brainer.”

Fans tuning in can expect the trio to talk a variety of sports topics and mix in pop culture and food as well.

Brady Quinn Confronts Will Ferrell Over Heckling on Dan Patrick Show

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It’s been a little while since FOX Sports Radio host Brady Quinn was behind center at Notre Dame, but Quinn hasn’t forgotten getting heckled on the road at USC by actor Will Ferrell.

Quinn, who was at Notre Dame from 2003-06, and Ferrell both appeared on The Dan Patrick Show live from Dublin, Ireland on Wednesday. Notre Dame opens its 2023 season with a game against Navy in the Irish capital.

Brady told Will, a USC alum, to repeat a few phrases he remembered hearing Ferrell yell at him on the sidelines of the L.A. Coliseum. Ferrell said he wasn’t sure where he was in vicinity of Quinn.

“In this case you were definitely on the field,” Quinn said. “Or at least I thought it was you.”

“Hey number 10, your pants are too high!” Ferrell said to laughter.

“I know it’s been a long time, but that’s definitely him,” Quinn replied.

“I literally looked at my backup and I was like, ‘Is that Will Ferrell?'” he added. “I was like, ‘Are my pants too high? And I was like, ‘I mean I know I have long legs, but I mean geez.’ That was probably all I was thinking about for the next five minutes. It was definitely a great tactic.”

“Hey number 10, you run awkwardly!” Ferrell yelled.

Quinn figured it out, and Will explained that instead of going with personal attacks about a player, he’ll come up with something different.

Later on Quinn and Ferrell would get into a brief wrestling match. It ended when Brady lifted Will off his feet.

Mike Greenberg: I Have Worked More Days Than Pat McAfee This Summer

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With football season coming up, many in sports media are coming off of using the lull in the sports calendar to take some time away. Both Pat McAfee and ESPN host Mike Greenberg have taken summer vacations.

Greeny was a guest on The Pat McAfee Show on Wednesday, and Pat asked Mike if fans should expect to see him every day on Get Up with the new NFL season getting ready to kick off.

“I’m back all the way through the season. I’ve barely been off,” Greenberg said to a couple groans by the rest of Pat’s crew. “After last year, when you got the entire world counting my days – thanks a lot for that – I have been paying some attention.”

“I think I’ve worked more days this summer than you have,” he added. That got a funny reaction out of McAfee. “It’s pretty close!”

Pat admitted they did take an extended summer break in July.

Greenberg said with the arrival of Aaron Rodgers to his beloved New York Jets and the team suddenly having the potential to make a playoff run, he couldn’t afford to not go on the air.

“You know how we do things,” he said. “You know how careful we are, how specific we are about the topics that we do. I never would’ve dreamt that I would live through a season in which the Jets are the biggest story. This is like a miracle has fallen in my lap. If you think I’m missing a day of this, you gotta be out of your mind!”

UTSA Signs New Radio Deal with iHeartMedia in San Antonio

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Seven months after announcing a multimedia rights agreement with Playfly Sports, UT-San Antonio has a new broadcast rights deal in place with iHeartMedia.

The school announced Wednesday that the deal with iHeart San Antonio will give Roadrunner football and men’s and women’s basketball a radio home in the market on Ticket 760 and classic country station The Bull 93.3, as well as a presence on the iHeartRadio app.

Ticket 760 will carry UTSA football. Two hours of pregame coverage will lead into the game broadcast and then a 45-minute postgame show. Andy Everett will call play-by-play. Jay Riley will be the color analyst, and Pat Evans will contribute from the sidelines.

Coaches shows for football and basketball will also air on Ticket 760. Additionally, podcasts of the shows will be available on Ticket 760’s website and on the iHeartRadio app.

Basketball game coverage will feature a 30-minute pregame show and a 15-minute postgame show. Everett will call play-by-play for men’s hoops, while Neal Raphael will be calling women’s basketball games.

News Media Reacts to First Republican Presidential Debate

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The first 2024 Republican Presidential debate took place in Milwaukee Wednesday. The event was broadcast on Fox News and moderated by anchors Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum.

The debate lasted for two hours from 9:00-11:00 PM ET.

Reaction from the news media was mixed. Some believed certain candidates performed better than others. There were also reactions to the job Baier and MacCallum did moderating the event.

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Burke Magnus: Audio is ‘Work in Progress’ for ESPN

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ESPN Radio recently announced its new on-air lineup featuring established hosts and varied content offerings. The audio business is in a midst of transition and ESPN has outsourced different aspects of the model to other entities, most notably Good Karma Brands. ESPN recently agreed to a deal with the company that renders it responsible for sales on the radio and podcast networks, a transaction that was preceded by a larger move as it pertains to ownership of traditional outlets.

The discussion pertaining to the ephemeral future of audio communications and the sports radio format in particular have been amplified over several years. Some local stations are syndicating large swaths of national content throughout the day with minimal amounts of original programming. Moreover, there have been people from around the industry claiming that the company is “punting” on radio, wondering about the future of ESPN Radio as a division altogether. In general, a sentiment of the company neglecting the radio medium in particular has pervaded media circles, evidenced by frequent lineup changes and alterations in the leadership and management structure.

The future of the audio medium is in the purview of Burke Magnus, president of content at ESPN, and he has a significant hand in the future of the network. Magnus emanates from the world of college sports, having landed a full-time position with ESPN in 1995 as a programming associate. While he has remained cognizant of radio from afar, he is now entrenched in the room where industry-altering decisions are made.

“I think it’s a work in progress,” Magnus said of the future of audio at ESPN. “I think it too is transforming, particularly with the significance and power and influence that podcasting has taken with people’s time, and in particular sports fans’ time.”

Indeed, several original podcasts distributed by ESPN are produced by Omaha Productions, a media company founded by Pro Football Hall of Fame member Peyton Manning. Omaha is also responsible for Monday Night Football with Peyton and Eli, the hit alternate broadcast that is set to enter its third season in a few weeks. Because of the growth in other spaces, Magnus and those in the industry tend not to define the landscape as the radio business, instead adopting broader nomenclature.

“We’ve said for many years [that] it’s the audio business, Magnus said, “and I think that manifests itself in a lot of different ways, but terrestrial radio is certainly part of that mix.”

As part of layoffs mandated by The Walt Disney Company to slash $5.5 billion in operating costs, leaders across the format lost their jobs, including senior vice president of audio Scott McCarthy. The cuts came after Disney chief executive officer Bob Iger reorganized the company into three distinct business segments, one of which is ESPN, which will report its own earnings for the first time later this year. Additionally, Keyshawn Johnson, Jay Williams and Max Kellerman departed the network shortly after the cancellation of their national morning show, and the network has cross-utilized its talent across various programming through different verticals.

“Sometimes, I think people read into a particular individual circumstance too much looking for a deeper meaning to a particular change or two,” Magnus said. “That would be the way I feel about where radio is at the moment.”

ESPN and Pat McAfee inked a multi-year, multimillion dollar contract to bring the hit digital program, The Pat McAfee Show, to various network platforms for 235 episodes per year. McAfee, a former NFL punter with the Indianapolis Colts, along with the rest of his show cast, will be available to watch on linear and digital outlets as part of the network’s new, upcoming daytime programming lineup. The network may reportedly look to put McAfee’s show on radio down the road, in line with the multiplatform nature of the endeavor.

“There are radio people who are very good on the radio, and maybe they wouldn’t be able to succeed on television, and vice-versa,” Magnus said. “To me, it’s a blend of big-name talent that cuts [through] regardless of medium, but balanced considerably by true radio professionals that are entertaining and have a mastery of that medium in particular.”

As Magnus works with Chairman Jimmy Pitaro and the rest of ESPN leadership to craft the future of the network, it is certain that audio will be a part of it. In just what capacity the network will be involved with the content remains to be seen, but it encompasses part of a larger plan to keep the network positioned for future growth in the dynamic modern media ecosystem.

“It’s in a little bit of a transformative period right now,” Magnus said of the audio industry, “but it is definitely something we’re thinking about and seeing how it could optimize itself over time.”


Barrett Sports Media’s exclusive interview with Burke Magnus will be published on Friday morning, featuring his thoughts on the new daytime programming lineup, ESPN BET and the future of the “Worldwide Leader.”

Pat McAfee: People Are ‘Genuinely Upset’ at What Ryan Clark Says

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Pat McAfee is part of the sports media now, but he will always think of himself as an NFL player. When multiple players say they have a problem with a particular media member’s criticism, he is bound to notice. That is why his ESPN colleague Ryan Clark came up on the Wednesday edition of The Pat McAfee Show.

McAfee wanted his audience to see and hear the reaction from Miami Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa when a reporter told him that Clark had reported that he had come into camp out of shape and was not following a nutritionist’s diet plan for him.

“Love the sauce from Tua Tagovailoa to Ryan Clark,” McAfee said before playing the clip. “Love the way he chose to answer it, and I think this is a thing, if you’re a Miami Dolphins fan, you’re like, ‘Yeah, finally this guy seemingly standing up for himself.’”

Tagovailoa initially tried to dance around the question joking that Clark knew more about Tagovailoa than the quarterback knows about himself. He also said it was strange to hear someone talking about another person’s nutrition plan that he isn’t familiar with. That was before he turned the rhetoric up a notch.

“I come from a Samoan family,” Tagovailoa said. “Respect is everything. But, you know, it does get to a point where ‘Hey, little easy on that, buddy, because, I think we’re we’re pretty tough minded people. And if we need to get scrappy, we can get scrappy.”

McAfee said that he loved what he heard in the press conference. He also noted that Tagovailoa is not the first to talk about the ESPN analyst this way.

Last week, Clark was the butt of internet jokes when he declared that the Pittsburgh Steelers’ George Pickens had more talent than the Minnesota Vikings’ Justin Jefferson, widely regarded as one of the best players at any position in the NFL.

Clark also drew the ire of Houston radio host Landry Locker earlier this year when he attacked FOX’s Brady Quinn for his take on new Texans’ quarterback CJ Stroud.

“Ryan Clark has now been in the headlines for a couple different things that have been said about a couple of different players,” McAfee said. “I think as you climb the ranks of sports media, more people are going to hear what you’re gonna say. So there’s going to be more of a reaction. But here’s a couple of times in a couple of weeks where people are getting, I think, genuinely upset at Ryan Clark for what he’s saying.”

Tucker Carlson: Donald Trump Approached Me About Debate Alternative Interview

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Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson will host former President Donald Trump for a sit-down interview tonight on his newly rebranded Tucker on X program. Carlson revealed that Trump was the one who approached him about the collaboration.

In a video posted to X, formerly Twitter, Carlson revealed that the former President made the announcement he would not participate in the debate broadcast by Fox News after agreeing to an interview with the former cable news host.

“On Sunday, Donald Trump announced that he will not participate in tonight’s Republican candidates’ debate hosted by Fox News in Milwaukee. Whatever you think of Trump, he is — as of tonight — the indisputable far and away front runner in the Republican race,” said Tucker Carlson. “We think voters have an interest in hearing what he thinks.

“So when Trump approached us about having a conversation for a far larger audience than he received on cable news, we happily accepted. That interview will air tonight in this space at 8:55. We hope you’ll watch.”

The timing of Carlson’s interview with Trump isn’t a coincidence. He’ll publish the interview to X at 8:55 PM ET. The first 2024 Republican Presidential debate is scheduled to begin at 9:00 PM ET on Fox News. Anchors Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum will co-moderate the event.