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More ESPN Radio Changes Aren’t a Problem If You Prioritize Local Programming

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Since news of ESPN Radio preparing to drop Keyshawn, JWill and Max broke, I have fielded phone calls and text messages from GMs, PDs and talent alike. All of them have basically the same reaction: this network sure does make a lot of changes. 

That has certainly been true of late.

I understand their frustration. They are relying on ESPN Radio to fill the hours of the day that they do not carry live programming. You want to be able to tell advertisers and listeners they can know what to expect.

There is a fact that is getting overlooked. It doesn’t invalidate their complaints, but it should be said that if you choose to air syndicated programming, no matter who it is from, you are taking on some risk. 

You get no guarantee that the shows will be covering topics relevant to your market. You get no say in whether a popular host is retained. Airing syndicated programming requires blind faith.

While I hear your frustrations and certainly empathize, I do have to say this is one of the things about the radio business (particularly sports talk) that drives me nuts. If you do not want to be at the mercy of the whims of a network partner, particularly in drive time, then invest in your station.

Sports talk is an expensive format. To do a show right, you need two full-time salaries minimum. To do the classic three four-hour shows model right, each show needs at least two hosts and a dedicated producer. Throw in rights fees, marketing expenses, equipment, and utilities and the costs add up. 

Do not get me wrong. I’m not trying to be flippant. I just don’t have a whole lot of sympathy for the “oh poor pitiful us, whatever can we do” nonsense from companies that prioritize cost-cutting over quality.

ESPN Radio is taking a lot of shit right now. It’s not that it is undeserved, but those four letters come with expectations in the sports media world that the letters C, B, S, F, O, and X do not. 

Don’t you think there were FOX Sports Radio affiliates that bemoaned losing Clay Travis and now take 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe through gritted teeth? Isn’t it reasonable to think that when CBS Sports Radio lost Pat McAfee there were programmers that were not too keen on having to carry Bill Reiter?

It isn’t a commentary on any of the hosts involved. It’s a fact of doing business with syndicated national networks. Something can be working well for your station and then one day, it can just be gone. You don’t get to make your pitch. You just have to figure out how to sell whatever the next thing is to your listeners and advertisers.

Covid-19 and people working from home may have changed radio consumption patterns, but the drive times still matter in a big way. If you cannot be bothered to put local programming on in both drive spots, I do not think you have a right to complain about what ESPN or anyone else does. During a time when the most people are on the road and thus the most ears are available to you, you are airing a show that likely won’t mention your hometown teams at all. 

Maybe losing Keyshawn, JWill and Max is a bummer, but if you are in say, Cincinnati, and they aren’t talking about the Reds anyway, what does it matter if your listeners have to get used to a new group of people not talking about the Reds?

Any business built on advertising is a gamble. We have been saying “The media business is changing faster than ever before” for so long that I can’t believe there are still people in this business that think it ever moved at a reasonable speed. Challenges exist and they are not insignificant. But if you are trying to build a station that matters to your market, then using any syndicated programming is cutting corners. 

Syndication isn’t morally wrong or anything like that. It just will never be as good of an option for your station and your audience as a local show. 

So look, complain all you want about having to introduce your audience to yet another new ESPN Radio morning show, but remember that you or your bosses or their bosses at some point made the decision that putting out a low-cost product was more important than putting out a high-quality product. 

There’s nothing ESPN Radio can do about that.

Could a National Network Get By Without a Morning Show?

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If the reports of Keyshawn, JWill, and Max’s demise are true, ESPN Radio is about to embark on its fifth morning show in six years. With those figures in front of you, it’s clear that the morning drive timeslot has been in flux for the Worldwide Leader. They’re not alone in that “national network replacing a morning show” department. FOX Sports Radio and CBS Sports Radio have each featured new morning shows since Mike & Mike’s run atop the sports radio world ended.

It is not unreasonable to note — no offense to the potentially former ESPN Radio show, nor Damon Amendolara, Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, and LaVar Arrington — that the strongest programs on ESPN Radio, FOX Sports Radio, and CBS Sports Radio aren’t featured in morning drive.

So I ask a simple question: Do national sports radio networks need a morning show anymore?

On the surface, that’s a stupid question. Of course, they need a morning show. The station’s foundation — and in turn, the network — is built on the morning show.

Except I just showed you that that’s not true.

I’d contend that a national network’s morning show now plays second fiddle to midday offerings. ESPN Radio hangs its hat on Greeny, CBS Sports Radio on Jim Rome, and FOX Sports Radio on Dan Patrick and Colin Cowherd. Greeny and Dan Patrick would air in morning drive in the Pacific timezone, but otherwise, everything else is showcased from 9:00 AM-3:00 PM.

So, if you’re looking at the future of ESPN Radio — which trickles down to the future of local sports radio — wouldn’t the network be better served to put more eggs in the midday basket than trying to replicate its past glory with a Mike & Mike style show?

ESPN Radio — in my humble opinion — would be better served focusing on markets that don’t need a morning show from the network. Focus on stations and markets that need a strong midday show because the budget doesn’t allow for a locally-focused lineup from 6:00 AM-7:00 PM.

Now, the small market stations that run the overwhelming majority of ESPN Radio’s content — which I used to program — would still need a morning show. Additionally, Bristol makes a significant amount of revenue from the morning show, and scale is a part of that.

Is a clock similar to a news/talk morning news wheel format something ESPN Radio could explore? Could a SportsCenter All Night style morning show work? With the way we consume sports information, news, and analysis, I’d argue no, a format like that doesn’t work in morning drive, but every option has to be on the table now, right?

Could a show similar to Get Up — or even a direct simulcast of the Mike Greenberg-helmed show — be better than a traditional ESPN Radio morning show?

These are questions the folks in Bristol should be asking themselves, and finding answers for, over the next few days and weeks.

National sports radio networks have operated in the complete opposite model that news/talk shows have worked for decades. In the news/talk space, there really aren’t any “national networks” anymore. Programmers are piecing together lineups show by show, distributor by distributor. You’re not just signing up for the entire MAGA News Network or whoever is going to try to out-conservative the next group. It’s show by show.

And I wonder if that model could work in sports radio. As a sports radio programmer needing a collective of shows, would you rather sign up for an entire network and take shows you’re not crazy about and know aren’t going to do well in your market, or would you rather an al a carte offering, and have more freedom in your selections? I know which one I’d take, but that option doesn’t really exist right now.

At the end of the day, I just believe ESPN Radio is better served by putting its diminishing resources towards flamethrowing midday shows rather than stretching itself to cover a 24/7 lineup that no one is gaga over.

Also, if the network were to take that approach, it puts the onus on stations to invest in themselves. Put together a local morning show. Create jobs and return your local station to the roots that helped originally establish it. Or it allows for more regional or national syndication in morning drive. And what does ESPN Radio care? Those shows aren’t going to be competitors! The move can help stations return to their local roots, and who believes that can be a bad thing?

ESPN Radio isn’t alone in having questions in morning drive. The New York Post’s Andrew Marchand has repeatedly mentioned that with Craig Carton’s departure from WFAN to FS1, there have been rumblings about simulcasting his television show on FOX Sports Radio. We’ll see what becomes of that.

Ultimately, if you’re not doing a phenomenal job at something — and Keyshawn, JWill, and Max isn’t likely getting canceled because ESPN Radio is thrilled with it — don’t you have a duty to examine everything and ask the tough questions? My stance is: hell yeah you do. And if ESPN Radio isn’t doing a phenomenal job at morning drive, I think it’s worth asking: Are we better served without this?

It might not be a fun conclusion to come to, and it might fly in the face of conventional wisdom, but you have to do what you have to do to win. And sometimes the easiest path to victory is admitting your defeats.

Sal Licata Makes Lifelong WFAN Dream a Reality

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Growing up in New York, a young Sal Licata began listening to WFAN in the mid-90’s. He also was a caller to the station.  His dream was to one day be behind the microphone talking sports at WFAN.

Working at WFAN became reality when Licata was hired as an intern. The dream reached a new level last week when he was named the new midday host. He joins Brandon Tierney from 10am to 2pm starting on July 24th.

It was certainly one of those “pinch me” moments. 

“It means the world to me,” said Licata.  “The idea of having everything I’ve ever dreamt of become a reality is still something that I’m trying to comprehend.  It just does not feel real. The goal was always to be on the air and to be now with Brandon Tierney on WFAN is just something that honestly, I can’t even imagine…I can’t believe that it actually became a reality for me.”

In addition to his solo shows over the years at WFAN, Licata has also done fill-in work with other hosts, but never with Tierney.  While they’ve never teamed up on radio before, they did work together years ago on television at SNY so there is a bit of familiarity with each other.

At the end of the day, there’s a commonality between the two and that could equate to some very entertaining radio.    

“I know that we’re both at the core, passionate New York sports fans and to me that’s what this radio station has always been built on,” said Licata.  “The number one thing to me is as long as we check our egos and don’t make any argument personal, we’re going to be just fine.  He’s got to let me be myself and I have to let him be himself.  As long as we do that, I have no doubts that the show will succeed.”

It goes without saying that not every show in a sports radio lineup is the same in terms of content and presentation.  For example, a morning show generally includes a good amount of pop culture while an overnight show relies heavily on phone calls.  Licata has hosted in a variety of dayparts during his career, but now is set to make the transition from full-time solo overnight host to full-time midday host with a partner.

“I think I need to treat it the same way I’ve treated every other show I’ve ever done whether it be fill-in or full-time,” said Licata.  “When I’m on, it’s prime-time so I need to take that mentality over to the mid-day show.  The only thing that changes is that when you do a show with somebody else.”

Getting the promotion from overnights to middays is a marquee moment in Licata’s career, but he’s grateful for everything he’s accomplished including the full-time overnight gig that he’s about to depart.  He will forever be a part of the legendary list of WFAN hosts to hold down the fort during overnight hours including Steve Somers, Joe Benigno and Tony Paige.

While he’s pumped up for the midday show with Tierney, there is an aspect of the overnights that Licata will miss.

“The callers 100% because there’s no other time slot that gives you that bond with the callers like the overnight show,” said Licata.  “I could not do that show without them.  They have been the number one reason why I had any kind of success on the overnights.  Without the callers, that show was not even remotely as good as I feel like we made it with them being such a huge part of it.”  

Licata has worked hard to climb up the ladder in his career, but he also acknowledges that he had someone very important in his corner who played a big role in his success.

That would be legendary WFAN afternoon drive host Mike Francesa.

“Mike was the first person to ever believe in me other than myself,” said Licata.  “We would have interactions in the newsroom. He said ‘this guy should get a show’ and I think that led to me getting my first ever show in 2006 on Christmas Eve on the FAN. Then I got another show on New Year’s Eve and then slowly kind of worked my way up and then became part of Mike’s show.  There has been no bigger supporter, especially early on, than Francesa.”  

As Licata is set to assume prime real estate at WFAN. His story at the radio station also includes perhaps the worst moment of his career when he was fired back in 2010. Licata takes ownership of the moment. While it was a tough pill to swallow, the mistake helped him change the trajectory of his life and his career.

“I think people make mistakes in life,” said Licata.  “It was the worst mistake and it was also the most that I ever learned from a mistake.  It changed me as a person.  It humbled me.  It made me hungrier.  It made me self-evaluate and all those different things made me a better person which in turn made me a better host.  If I can go back, I wouldn’t change a single thing even though I don’t love the way I was back then…young, immature, insecure, egotistical…all those stupid things, I wouldn’t change a thing the way that it worked out.”

After leaving WFAN, Licata was faced with the tough challenge of trying to rebuild his career.  SNY was the first outlet that would give him a chance to get back on the air and then in 2013, he got a second chance with WFAN returning to the station that he dreamed of working for.  In 2014, Licata actually then left WFAN for a second time, but that was on his own terms as he moved over to WOR when they acquired the radio rights to New York Mets baseball and also developed a sports talk show.

Licata made a decision that he felt was in his best interests.

“WOR was a place for me to go and get better as a talk show host, learn to be a better host, face the challenges of doing a sports-talk show on a news-talk station poses,” said Licata.  “I’m thankful for that opportunity as well.  I learned and grew from WOR.” 

Licata eventually returned for a third stint at WFAN and the resurrection of his broadcasting career continued to take shape.  Though the ups and downs, Licata never stopped believing in himself and his hard work has now paid off in a big way.  He’s thriving at both WFAN and SNY and he’s put the struggles and mistakes in his rear-view mirror.

Does he feel vindicated?

“Vindication is definitely not the right word,” said Licata.  “There is a sense of satisfaction and being proud of myself for following my dream, working hard, doing things the right way, learning from mistakes and evolving.  I’m very proud of my acomplishments and very thankful for the opportunity that has been provided to me whether it be (former WFAN Program Director) Mark Chernoff who gave me a second chance, (current WFAN Program Director) Spike Eskin who has been as good to me as anybody has possibly been letting me be myself, (Audacy New York Market President) Chris Olivero and Boomer and Gio for promoting on their show.  I’m very thankful and appreciative to everybody who provided me an opportunity.”

Licata’s promotion from overnights to the middays was just part of a new station lineup announced by WFAN, with all of the moves triggered by the departure of afternoon host Craig Carton who is leaving WFAN for a full-time opportunity with Fox Sports.

Chris McMonigle replaces Licata on the overnight show while Tiki Barber departs middays to join Evan Roberts on the new afternoon show that will also include Shaun Morash moving down the hall as he comes over from “The DA Show” on CBS Sports Radio.  Tommy Lugauer will become the executive producer of “Evan and Tiki” and will host the “bridge show” leading into Keith McPherson evenings from 7pm to midnight.

 “I could not be more excited,” said Licata.  “I think it’s a healthy way to operate when you’re promoting from within.  Everybody who has gotten promoted here from within I could not be more excited for them. To be a part of that and a part of the station moving forward where I hope I am for the next 20 or 25 years, it’s a dream come true.  I could not be more excited.”

Dreams do come true.  Sal Licata is living proof of that. 

Dallas Media Personalities Pay Tribute to Norm Hitzges

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Legendary sports radio host Norm Hitzges broadcasted his final show on Friday, ending a career that spanned five decades.

The Ticket in Dallas has been a big ratings winner for a while, and Norm had a lot to do with it.

As Hitzges signed off for the last time on Friday, and even throughout the day, many across the Metroplex and beyond offered their well-wishes and reflections on a sports radio icon.

Even Texas legislators recognized Norm for the impact he’s made in media. Hitzges will be honored with an official proclamation by the Texas legislature the next time it meets.

Will East Is Growing SuperTalk Mississippi One Station At A Time

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Will East has worked tirelessly to grow SuperTalk Mississippi Media for the past eight years. He understands the changing media landscape and meets the challenges of attracting new audiences on-air and online with great tenacity.

As a young, aspiring broadcaster attending Ole Miss, East observed other students taking classes that did not interest him. He realized that he required hands-on experience to accomplish his objectives.     

He interned at the Mississippi Radio Group in Tupelo. He was dedicated and didn’t let minor things like sleep stop him from improving. He recalls working beyond his three-hour shift, even returning on Saturdays to assist with remote broadcasts. East was passionate about the radio business and relished every opportunity to improve himself. He followed a pattern of preparation, opportunity, and blessing, eventually leading to him being hired by the company and dreaming of more significant achievements.  

Mississippi may be over 1,000 miles from New York City, but it is the proud home of SuperTalk Mississippi Media, a leading media network. However, when Will East became the program director eight years ago, he noticed a lack of consistency and a need for an improved digital presence.

Today, the network has 17 locally produced podcasts and a TV channel that is readily accessible on the statewide cable provider, right next to The Weather Channel.  

The network is preparing for its digital evolution by offering on-demand highlights during sports coverage and other premium services. These offerings will make the network competitive with other big market competitors.

Despite hearing jokes about the Magnolia State, Will East chooses to focus on the positive offerings for the residents and consumers of SuperTalk Mississippi Media.  

Ryan Hedrick: Could you please summarize SuperTalk Mississippi Media and its role in the media industry?  

Will East: We’re a network of stations, a TV channel, and digital platforms covering Mississippi. There are 12 SuperTalk stations in markets throughout Mississippi. You can drive from Corinth, Mississippi (the very top of the state) down to the Gulf Coast (Ocean Springs) and listen to the same programming throughout. The entire state’s programming is the same on weekdays from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m.   

Mississippi doesn’t have a major market, so the idea was that we are going to create a major market by making everything the same. When you speak on SuperTalk Mississippi, you speak to three million potential listeners.

Our largest area is Central Mississippi, the Jackson Metro area. Let’s say this area has about 250,000 people living in it. In the grand scheme of things, it’s not a St. Louis or Dallas-sized market, but if you start adding in Jackson, Biloxi, Tupelo, and other areas, we can create a large market. That’s what we did using multiple radio stations and a TV channel. If there’s an advertiser that wants to come on with us, they’re heard all over the state in all 82 counties.   

RH: How did you first become involved with SuperTalk Mississippi Media? Could you share your journey and the steps you took to reach your current position as the Network Program Director?  

WE: I worked for a group of music stations in Tupelo, Mississippi, and I did some podcasts early in the podcast realm. Through word-of-mouth, SuperTalk [executives] knew about me, and they had an opening for the program director position. I interviewed for the job, and eight years later, here I am. This job is fun.

I am a Mississippian by birth. I felt like I was the only person in the world who loved hearing about famous people from Mississippi, the good things happening, and how Mississippi could progress and get better. I thought I was the only one who wanted to hear that stuff until I found SuperTalk Mississippi, an entire network dedicated to ensuring the Magnolia State did better and celebrated the things we do well.   

RH: What skills and qualifications did you bring from Tupelo that equipped you for this role?  

WE: I listened to SuperTalk before I got the job, and I always thought this was the direction I wanted to go in my career; I didn’t know exactly what it looked like. I understood that podcasts and being hyper-local were important things. I always envisioned doing something like this. I didn’t know it would be a network.

I thought it would be a group of shows that had one purpose. When I discovered SuperTalk Mississippi, I realized that the concept I had in my head already existed. When I got here, we just needed to clean up the edges a little bit and make everything more uniform.   

Since I arrived, we have grown tremendously. We’ve added more stations, especially on the Mississippi Gulf Coast, one area where Mississippi is growing. We also added a TV channel, and we did that during COVID.

When the pandemic hit, we asked ourselves where the growth opportunities were. We were already videoing some of our shows. The idea was that we would have the same programming across the state.     

RH: How are you ensuring that you are delivering the highest quality product to the state through the adjustments you make? 

WE: Most of our talent is really experienced, but we have times when we need fill-in hosts, so I’ll work with those guys and gals to get their skills up to snuff. We work a lot with talent on delivery and ways of saying things that are more entuned with the ways we would like them to be said.   

For instance, I hate saying, ‘All of you listening,’ I would rather have my hosts use the word “You,” that’s a huge thing to me. Another thing is always, to tell the truth. This is something that we teach our people from the get-go. If you have a belief that goes against the grain of what a majority of the audience feels, you have to tell the truth about how you feel. If you’re on the air for three hours, the truth about how you feel will eventually come out.  

Production is another responsibility that I have. We have 26 stations and 12 SuperTalk stations, so there’s a constant need for spot production and imaging production. I have people who help me, but I have to ensure everything gets done. Now, we’re doing many more podcasts on the digital side.

Right now, we are at 17 different podcasts daily. Some are terrestrial shows that we turn into podcasts, and some are podcasts only. For instance, the Thunder & Lightning Podcast is one of the most popular podcasts in the state of Mississippi dealing with state sports. Brian [Hadad] and Robbie [Faulk] are doing some amazing things, and they have a large audience that keeps growing.   

Our network is about to launch another podcast where Mississippi veterans share their stories. We are trying to get some of these older veterans who don’t have enough time to tell their stories before it’s too late. So far, we’ve talked to about 70 veterans and put those interviews into podcasts. I’m also managing all the YouTube distribution.

We clip out all the guests that come onto our shows and put them on YouTube. We upload about six videos a day to that platform. We have a social media person, but I make sure that everyone is talking to each other so that we know what content we can distribute on our respective social media platforms.   

RH: What educational and professional experiences have helped shape your career?  

WE: I started at Ole Miss, I always wanted to be in TV, but I didn’t know exactly what direction I wanted to take. Maybe I thought I was going to be a weatherman or sportscaster or something like that. The radio people were having more fun, so I decided to go the radio route. I decided early on that a lot of things that I learned in the classroom didn’t apply; the things that I learned at the Student Media Center did apply.

They were working on the commercial radio station at Ole Miss; they even had to sell airtime, so I decided that was the way to go. The best way for me to learn was hands-on. I went to the Mississippi Radio Group, which is a small group of radio stations in North Mississippi, and told them I wanted to be an intern. They told me to show up for three hours each day. I showed up at 6:00 a.m. when the first show aired, and I didn’t leave until 6:00 p.m. when the last show aired. I became known as “Super Intern Will.”

I did that for an entire year, no money, no nothing. I showed up on Saturdays, and we did remotes and things like that. Eventually, they started paying me. I decided to make myself indispensable to that company. I would have done anything they wanted me to do. I would have anchored traffic if they wanted me to. They needed people to do some on-air and production stuff, so I went that way.   

RH: Can you tell me about the role of SuperTalk Mississippi Media in the local community? How does the network help promote important issues and discussions within the state?  

WE: For many years, Mississippi was the type of place where they would elect a politician, and they would keep electing that politician for many years. They would go to the Capital and vote on stuff, and nobody knew what they voted on until they read it in the paper a couple of months later.

SuperTalk Mississippi was the first one to shed light on what those lawmakers were doing and what they were voting on. We really changed the dynamics of the state. SuperTalk Mississippi started many years ago, but it started to take off in the late 90s and early 2000s.   

We were influential in the state legislature. We would say something, and you heard state legislators talking about it in the hallways of the capitol. If you go into the Mississippi State Capitol, there’s a room where all the lawmakers go and drink coffee, and I’m certain they listen to SuperTalk Mississippi before they go out to the Senate floor. The network has been influential in pushing bills.

Our talk show hosts are opinionated, and they bring legislators on, and we bring people on from both [political] sides. We get labeled as a conservative media outlet, and we are basically conservative. We also bring on a lot of Democrats and people that disagree with us so we can talk it out.   

The people of Mississippi now know what their senator or representative is voting for because we talk about it. So, we bring the information to the people, and that’s something that a lot of states don’t have.

Generally, if you want to find out what’s going on at your state legislature, you must find someone who covers that and follow them on Twitter. SuperTalk Mississippi brings it to you every day. If it’s happening in the state of Mississippi, you can hear about it on SuperTalk Mississippi.   

RH: When selecting and developing new programs and shows for SuperTalk, what factors do you consider to ensure they resonate well with your audience?  

WE: If it’s a show that the network is producing, usually, we have an idea of the direction we want to go with it. The last show we launched on the network was called Good Things, hosted by Rebecca Turner, which has been on the air for six years.

When we develop programming, we stick with it for a while. It’s rare for us to put on a show that gets yanked off after a year. We put all our efforts behind our shows so that they can be successful. If it’s unsuccessful after that because the audience didn’t like it, that’s what it is.   

The idea behind Good Things was that many people have many bad things to say about Mississippi. The average person in Maryland or New York City would come back with a bad opinion about our state; it’s last in everything. With Good Things, we wanted to highlight the positive things happening here. For example, Rebecca [Turner] recently had on a person from the Grammy Museum. We have a museum dedicated to all the great musical talent that’s come from this state.

Plus, we are so political the rest of the day; the Good Things show gives us a chance to cool our heels, take our foot off the peddle a little bit and relax, and then we talk about sports because SportsTalk Mississippi comes on right after that. We develop shows based on what needs to be met.   

RH: During your time at SuperTalk, have you witnessed any significant milestones or achievements? Are there any impactful or memorable moments that stand out to you?   

WE: We do a lot of charitable causes; the biggest one we support is an organization called the Palmer Home for Children. It’s a non-profit that takes zero government dollars. They take in children in bad situations. They have several homes in North Mississippi, and they take those children in and give them a place to live.

When the kids first get there, they give them a bicycle so they can go out there and ride a bike. These kids come from unimaginable circumstances, and every year, we have a radiothon where for the entire 12 hours that we’re on the air, we dedicate the entire days’ worth of programming to the Palmer Home for Children. Each year we’ve raised more money than the year before.   

Sometimes our impact extends beyond charitable causes. For instance, we had a guy a couple of months ago whose mother and stepfather were murdered. They found the guy who did the killings, and he was about to get out on parole, and nobody was talking about this. We got called out of the blue about this case. The guy did end up getting out, but we were able to bring this to light.  

RH: Looking to the future, what do you envision for SuperTalk Mississippi Media? Are there any new initiatives or plans in the works that you can share with us?  

WE: We are working on some digital initiatives coming out that I don’t want to reveal just yet. We have 17 daily podcasts that we put out, and we have plans for more. I think the digital realm is where much of the growth will come from. We are still strong on the terrestrial side of things because it’s still where most of our listeners are. But on the digital, video, and podcast side, that’s where we are seeing a lot of growth.   

The video side, especially because we are videoing all our shows live. We have a TV channel dedicated to us that’s right next to the Weather Channel on the statewide cable system. We’re just scratching the surface. We’re planning for SEC Media Day right now, and I’m thinking about how we’re going to expand that. We’re adding highlights to our sports video productions.

If you would’ve asked me five years ago if we were going to do that, I would’ve said no way. YouTube is just exploding for us. We have plans for more original content and much of the stuff we are already producing, so why not get it out there and package it ourselves?   

Should Nielsen Have A Point of View?

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Do you spend any time on LinkedIn? Much like Facebook, you have to put up with a lot of chaff to find the wheat. Between the “congratulations” notes and the “I’m so inspired” cheerleading for something the poster’s company has announced, for me, LinkedIn’s value has declined. Nielsen has increased its LinkedIn usage, and I’m not sure it’s for the best.

I’ve seen more people “thrilled” on LinkedIn than at a theme park roller coaster. Maybe you’ll be inspired and thrilled by this week’s column or at least send along some “congratulations”!

I peruse LinkedIn occasionally and while I don’t follow companies per se, the fact that I’ve worked for some directs their releases to me which leads to this week’s topic: Should a referee have an opinion, or at least, should the ref publicly state a view? In this case, my reference is to Nielsen.

Diversity or DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion) is a hot topic. I’m not going to offer my view, but rather question whether a company like Nielsen, the arbiter of audience measurement, should publicly take sides. 

When I used to talk to automotive people who were unfamiliar with Arbitron and then Nielsen, I used the Switzerland analogy. As a neutral party, the company didn’t really care who won, rather the goal was to give the best representation of what the public was listening to or viewing. Of course, using the umpire or referee metaphor worked as well.

If you review Nielsen’s posts on LinkedIn, you may begin to wonder. A recent post celebrated Pride Month. In and of itself, this isn’t troubling as many companies are doing the same thing.  However, when I read “Diverse stories in media are needed—and should be celebrated”, to my way of thinking, that’s taking a side. Is it Nielsen’s role to make suggestions to content providers?

That wasn’t the first time. A week prior to that post, Nielsen told us “There needs (sic) to be more South-Asian women in lead recurring roles on television!”. Earlier, this was posted: “Representation is not a trend! Hmong actor and writer Doua Moua, shares the importance of listening to consumers and telling diverse stories that are not always deemed popular.” That seems odd. 

If it’s important to listen to consumers, why give them something that’s not popular? And then earlier on, the company proclaimed “There needs to be an increase in Native American lead roles!”

Posts like these can easily lead to unfounded conspiracy theories. If Nielsen is suggesting particular content, can we count on Nielsen to be neutral in terms of their data collection procedures? 

Are they willing to release data showing that content providers who don’t agree with their public DEI stances have large audiences? The recent controversies involving Bud Light and Target suggest that not everyone agrees with Nielsen’s corporate views. It’s not a big leap for someone with ulterior motives to complain that Nielsen’s motives are not entirely pure.

Before anyone thinks I’m impugning Nielsen’s output based on their external DEI stances, let me be very clear. I don’t believe that for a minute. In my time at Arbitron (prior to the Nielsen takeover), we were accused of many transgressions, but even when the data collection operation made a mistake (very rare), it was never done with a bias. 

I don’t think Nielsen is any different and while I have issues with some of their actions, “rigging” results has never crossed my mind. If I wanted to call them out, it would be over issues such as reneging on fully implementing an announced PPM sample increase, the recent RIFs at Nielsen Audio while other Nielsen people were attending the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland (perhaps Nielsen has a way to end the war in Ukraine), and the slow progress on Nielsen One with no mention of how radio will benefit from this initiative.

At Arbitron, I don’t remember the company taking public or even internal stances on controversial issues although I may have missed something. When Nielsen took over, the company sent ice cream trucks to Nielsen facilities to celebrate the Supreme Court’s Obergefell (gay marriage) decision in 2015. 

Unfortunately, I was out of town and so missed the free ice cream (word was that it was very good), but the action struck me as odd although as an internal stand, that’s up to the company.

It’s not a matter of whether one agrees or disagrees with these sentiments.  There are some companies and many organizations and governmental bodies that take public stances on any number of substantive issues, many of which echo the Nielsen statements. 

However, I can’t think of many that represent themselves as neutral unbiased parties and then take sides on matters directly affecting or criticizing the industries that require neutrality. 

Perhaps Nielsen should limit their public pronouncements and let others handle the controversy.

Let’s meet again next week.

Neil Everett Signs Off Final SportsCenter Friday

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After 23 years, Neil Everett bid SportsCenter and ESPN adieu on Friday. Everett joined The Worldwide Leader in 2000 and had co-anchored the show with Stan Verrett from Los Angeles since 2009.

Neil’s exit comes amid a downsizing in the workforce at ESPN, part of a broader decrease in employees across The Walt Disney Co.

“This is the end of the line for me,” Everett said at the conclusion of Friday night’s show. “I’m not on social media, but Stan has told me that some of you have left some memorable tweets. And I appreciate that because that’s what you do. You do this to entertain you all out there and entertain yourself.”

Neil had been very public throughout his career that he didn’t have a Twitter account like the vast majority of his other ESPN colleagues. He often read “hashtag” on the air as “hashbrown.” But he did remember hearing about a particular tweet since news of his exit became public.

“It said, ‘I’ve been watching SportsCenter religiously for 20 years, and I’ve never heard of Neil Everett,'” Neil said.

“Only Neil!” Verrett responded. Stan said it had been a pleasure working with Everett for so long.

“Love is a long road,” Stan added. “I’ll see you down it.”

Everett plans to work on some other projects he has in the works moving forward, as well as try to grow his current role on TV with the Portland Trail Blazers.

ESPN Sees Record Ratings for NBA Draft

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The highly-anticipated moment for French superstar Victor Wembanyama turned out to be a huge moment for ESPN and ABC last Thursday.

The interest in Wembanyama going first overall to the San Antonio Spurs set the tone for the night. The 2023 NBA Draft averaged 3.74 million viewers, a 23% increase over the previous year. It was the best viewership for the NBA Draft on record.

The previous record was 3.738 million viewers in 2015.

When commissioner Adam Silver announced Wemby was being selected by the Spurs, the peak audience was 6.09 million. The first round averaged 4.93 million, with ESPN averaging 2.72 million.

ESPN To Bring Back KayRod Cast for Five Games This Summer

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The KayRod Cast alternate feed of ESPN’s Sunday Night Baseball is returning on July 2.

Alex Rodriguez and Michael Kay will reunite for the first of five scheduled broadcasts this summer.

The KayRod Cast will be available on ESPN2, while the traditional Sunday night feed will remain on ESPN.

The four other editions of the show will air on July 23, August 6, 13 and 27. The first two games will feature Kay and Rodriguez calling New York Mets games. The Mets will host the Giants on Sunday, and then they travel to Boston to take on the Red Sox on the 23rd.

The final three remaining matchups are to be determined.

Jessica Mendoza Pushed To Move From Reporter to Analyst

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Whenever you get to watch Jessica Mendoza analyze a baseball or softball game in-studio or at the ballpark, you can hear how much fun she is having. Last year, she got the chance to join Spectrum SportsNet in Los Angeles as an analyst on Dodgers games. 

This week, Mendoza was a guest on the Time To Schein podcast with Adam Schein. Schein asked her whether she enjoys being in the studio more or being on the games.

“Studio is where I feel like I can be me. I can expand, especially on shows like GET UP compared to SportsCenter. SportsCenter, you are kind of given a couple of topics, you have a couple of minutes. You know what you are going to get. GET UP, it can be all over the place and the way that Greeny allows. I’ll bring a bat, I can jump up, I can run over here in the studio. We can go completely off topic. It’s so much fun to be honest. Baseball is fun.” 

Mendoza does enjoy being at the games and she said she is currently working on a feature about the technologies hitters use at Dodgers Stadium. She said she needs to be at games to do her job, but being in the studio makes her feel like she is a child all over again. 

During her broadcasting career, Mendoza has always liked to break things down from a hitter’s perspective. When she first joined ESPN and was at the College World Series in Omaha, she was the on-field reporter with Orel Hershiser and Kyle Peterson as the analysts in the booth. She asked a question to reporters about being able to have a monitor in the dugout and it allowed her to keep breaking down swings and providing a hitter’s perspective on the action. 

“My first year was Kyle’s first year being moved into the booth. I went and watched film from years before and was like hey guys, I get I can be a reporter, but is there anyway that I can actually have a monitor in the dugout and maybe break down some stuff? We had Orel and KP in the booth (pitchers). Pitching, pitching, pitching. C’mon guys, this is College baseball. They rake.”