Tucker Carlson has been at the center of the news media world after his highly-anticipated interview with Russian President Vladimir Putin was released. That doesn’t mean he’s immune to media feuds, and he’s turned his attention to Ben Shapiro.
While appearing on the Awakened Wonders podcast with comedian Russell Brand, Carlson argued that any warmongers, like — in his eyes –Ben Shapiro and Nikki Haley, deserve to be chided for their stances. He said he reserves the right to hate that ideology.
“I’ve got four draft-age children, so if you’re playing recklessly, fast, and loose with their lives, then I have a right to despise you, and I do.
“So if you’re Nikki Haley, who’s running for president, or Ben Shapiro or half the people I see on television casually mentioning the possibility of nuclear war or sending Americans to fight in the Middle East, or in any way involving us in a war that has nothing to do with prosperity and peace at home — nothing, in other words, to do with us Americans — then I have a right to call you out and be really offended because it’s my family,” said Carlson. “They live here. It’s not a joke to me; there’s nothing abstract about it.”
Tucker Carlson continued by noting that those on the political right calling for laws against hate speech are deeply misguided in his view.
“I’m absolutely shocked by it. I can’t even believe what I’m watching. And I can’t overstate my rage or my contempt for them, because these are the people- and by the way, if they’re not defending free speech in my country, no one is, and we’re done. And we’re going to have hate speech laws, which, again, are just laws criminalizing speech that the people in charge hate, that they’re threatened by. That’s it, that’s all they are.
“They’re not on behalf of some oppressed group. Many of those groups are not actually oppressed, but leave that aside. Maybe they are oppressed, but it’s not on their behalf that these laws will be passed. It’s on behalf of the people in charge. And that’s completely wrong,” argued Carlson. “You don’t live in a free society. You don’t live in a society of citizens and human beings, you live in a slave state when you have that. And the right, the people on the right who are calling for it should be deeply ashamed of themselves.”
It isn’t the first time Tucker Carlson has publicly clashed with Ben Shapiro. Late last year when The Daily Wire co-founder was in a public spat with Candace Owens, Carlson welcomed the commentator on his X program to share her side of the story.