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Sean Hannity Tells Stephen A. Smith: Fox News Anniversary ‘Made Me Self-Reflective’

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Sean Hannity is reflecting on his career as Fox News celebrates 30 years on the air. The longtime host told Stephen A. Smith the milestone sparked an unexpected emotional response.

What We Know: Fox News celebrated its 30th anniversary on Wednesday, October 7th. Hannity has been with the network since its launch, making him one of its longest-serving personalities. During a conversation with Smith on his SiriusXM program, Hannity discussed the milestone and how it prompted him to reflect on his career. The host also noted that he recently marked 25 years in syndication.

What They Said: “I just hit a couple of milestones. My 25th year in syndication, my 30th year at Fox, and I wasn’t expecting the reaction that I’ve had inside, emotionally. You know, I’ve become thoughtful, introspective, self-reflective. I grind every day. I work hard. I’m dedicated to my craft. I don’t take myself seriously. I take my job seriously. And it was important to me always to do a great job by the audience.” -Sean Hannity

What Remains Unclear: Hannity didn’t elaborate on whether the milestone will lead to any changes in his future professional plans. He also didn’t indicate whether his reflections have changed how he approaches his daily work or his future at Fox News.

What It Means: Hannity’s comments offer a glimpse into how three decades in television have shaped his perspective. Although he’s maintained a demanding work schedule, the anniversary has prompted him to take stock of his career and the responsibility he feels toward his audience. His remarks also underscore the longevity of his relationship with Fox News, where he has remained a fixture since the network’s beginning.

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Craig Carton: No ESPN Talent Will Challenge Stephen A. Smith Out Of Fear

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Craig Carton believes ESPN pushed Stephen A. Smith into apologizing over his Lane Johnson comments. Furthermore, he says no network colleague will publicly challenge Smith.

What We Know: Smith drew backlash for First Take comments about Eagles tackle Lane Johnson and mental health. Initially, Smith stayed defiant Wednesday night, blaming others for misreading his words. Then, on Thursday, Smith issued an apology. Afterward, Carton blasted the reversal on The Craig Carton Show on OutKick. He stated that he wasn’t stunned by Smith’s initial commentary, but more stunned by the lack of reaction by current and former ESPN talent to stand against Smith’s words.

What They Said: (All quotes via Craig Carton Show):

Craig Carton calls out certain former-ESPN talent for not taking Stephen A. Smith to task over his comments: “What’s really fascinating to me is where’s Dan Le Batard in all this? If I’d said it about a minority athlete, he’d be all over my ass. Not just Dan Le Batard, where’s Jemele Hill? Where’s Ryan Clark? All of a sudden, some of these people ain’t got nothing to say. They got a lot to say when other people say things, but in this case, mum’s the word.”

Craig Carton calls out current ESPN talent for not taking a stand against Stephen A. Smith’s comments: “Where are all the other ESPN people. Where’s Mike Wilbon? Another bastion of the moral compass of the media as a Hall of Famer. Where’s Tony Kornheiser, who never met a good argument he didn’t like to have? Where’s Dan Orlovsky, who wears his you know emotional ups and downs on his sleeve quite famously. In fact, where’s anybody at ESPN to say, I like my colleague, I respect my colleague, but my colleague got this one wrong.”

Craig Carton believes ESPN talent won’t stand up to Stephen A. Smith because it could get them in trouble: “The other tough guys and tough gals who have a lot to say about a lot of things, but have shied away from this story. Let’s see if any of them have the balls to actually say something. My gut is when I come in here tomorrow, I won’t have any audio to play for you because none of them are going to say a damn thing about it. They’re all afraid if I go after Stephen A. [Smith], he’ll have my job. If I go after him, he’ll get me fired. What a shame that is.”

Craig Carton says ESPN surely forced Stephen A. Smith to apologize: “Last night, you [Stephen A. Smith] were defiant. Last night it was our fault, not your fault. Nothing you said was offensive last night. We misheard you, misconstrued your words, and we misrepresented what you said or meant. Today is now the pathetic after giving it a lot of thought and having people I respect come to me and tell me why. You didn’t know it was offensive? You had to know it was offensive. You’ve been down this road before.”

Craig Carton says Stephen A. Smith is good at saying things to get people to react: “For those of you trying to hold him up to this level of having journalistic integrity, he’s not a journalist. He’s an entertainer. He gets paid for right exactly what I’m doing right now, and that’s get people to respond.”

Craig Carton expects Stephen A. Smith to say things to get a rise from the public: “Stephen A. [Smith] frankly, played from the Stephen A. playbook. That is say something stupid or outrageous, get a lot of attention for it. Don’t really apologize for it, and then make it all about yourself. That’s what he did. But the fact that people, you know, going crazy about it, like that’s my expectation. That’s what he does. He does it better than most, by the way.”

What Remains Unclear: Carton offered no evidence that ESPN directed the apology. ESPN has also not stated that the apology by Smith was suggested. Smith denies ESPN made him apologize for his comments. It’s unknown if any ESPN talent Carton mentioned did challenge Smith, even off air.

What It Means: Ultimately, Carton frames the episode as a test of ESPN’s internal culture. In his view, Smith’s stature discourages colleagues from public disagreement. Meanwhile, Carton conceded that Smith excels at provoking reactions. Whether or not Carton in his criticism of ESPN talent is up for debate. While none of the ESPN talent he listed have (so far) publicly challenged Smith on his comments, that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen behind the scenes.

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Guaranty Media Names Kelli Frieler Chief Strategy Officer

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Kelli Frieler has joined Guaranty Media as Chief Strategy Officer. The appointment follows two years of contract work with the company.

What We Know: Frieler previously served as Executive Director of Digital for Leighton Broadcasting before beginning her work with Guaranty Media. She spent the past two years working with the company on a contract basis before stepping into the Chief Strategy Officer role. In her new position, Frieler will work alongside Flynn Foster, the executive leadership team, and employees across the organization to identify opportunities for growth and improve how the company serves its clients. She’ll also help lead a Continuous Improvement Team alongside Will Lee and Luke Foster.

What They Said: “I’ll be working alongside Flynn (Foster), our Executive Leadership Team, and everyone across Guaranty to reimagine what’s possible in pursuit of our mission to enrich lives and serve others. How do we help clients solve the new problems they’re facing, with results that matter? How do we give our team more space and freedom to be builders and inventors? Will Lee, Luke Foster, and I will start our Continuous Improvement Team work tackling some of those questions together with our teams. Thank you, Flynn, for the trust. Y’all are stuck with me now.” -Kelli Frieler

What Remains Unclear: Guaranty Media hasn’t detailed the full scope of Frieler’s responsibilities as Chief Strategy Officer or outlined specific goals for the Continuous Improvement Team. The company also hasn’t announced a timeline for any initiatives that may emerge from the group’s work.

What It Means: Frieler’s appointment formalizes a relationship that began with two years of contract work. Her experience leading digital efforts at Leighton Broadcasting also brings a background in digital strategy to Guaranty Media’s leadership team. Meanwhile, the focus on continuous improvement suggests the company wants to find new ways to help clients address evolving challenges while giving employees more opportunities to develop ideas and pursue innovation.

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Lainie Fertick Promoted to New Chief Insights Officer, iHeartMedia

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iHeartMedia has named Lainie Fertick its first-ever Chief Insights Officer. The promotion caps a 20-plus-year climb that started with an internship.

What We Know: Fertick joined Critical Mass Media, iHeart’s research firm, as an intern in 2004. From there, she rose to become CMM President and General Manager. Then, in 2024, she added President of iHeartMedia Insights to her title. Now, she will oversee insights across radio, podcasting, talent, sales and attribution, music research, user experience and audience analytics.

What They Said: Lainie Fertick (via LinkedIn): “Same great gig, new title: Chief Insights Officer at iHeartMedia!”

What Remains Unclear: The company did not state if the previous title Fertick owned will remain or any successor named. It’s also unclear, based on Fertick’s comment, if there’s any additional oversight with the new title.

What It Means: Ultimately, the move shows how heavily iHeart now leans on research. Fertick will keep a key role in AudioGraph, its data and programmatic platform. Additionally, she will continue overseeing the annual white papers, including “The Human Consumer,” which shaped iHeart’s “Guaranteed Human” positioning. Meanwhile, she still reports to Tom Poleman and joins the StratCom leadership team.

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Barrett Media’s Top 20 Advertising Executives of 2026

Barrett Media’s Top 20 of 2026 in Audio Advertising concludes with the industry’s top advertising executives. To view the previous lists featuring the top agencies, local and national radio advertisers, and podcast advertisers, go here.

These results represent the feedback supplied by one hundred and forty four voters across the radio, podcast and advertising industries. Our voting committee includes podcasting and radio industry executives, advertising analysts, and radio market managers. It also includes sales managers, account executives, and independent media owners and operators. The voting sample represents sixty one media groups in total.

Important Details

As you review the results, please remember that our voters live in different cities and work for different companies. They have different marketing goals, challenges, preferences, and relationships. They also enjoy different business successes with clients and weigh certain factors higher than others such as total spend, category dominance, campaign consistency, and digital vs. traditional. We involve a large group of voters in this series from various companies in order to avoid geographical and corporate bias. That said, there is no perfect system. Without being in each person’s head, it’s impossible to know why they value certain people and details more than others.

In analyzing the responses, our voters appeared to place a higher value on executives who they have communication with over CMO’s of larger companies who decide the overall investment and strategy but have less direct involvement. Whether that’s right or wrong can be debated. What these results suggest, the people on this list are considered very important to those who they do business with.

Closing Comments

We analyze and present this series similar to our Top 20 in Radio series. That series has been in existence since 2016. Each brand, agency and/or individual earns points for votes based on where our voters rank them. A first-place vote equals 20 points. A 20th place vote receives 1 point. Voters were asked to answer up to six questions, sharing which agencies, brands and individuals were most valuable to their businesses. Barrett Media does not vote in this process. We simply collect the feedback, add up the results, and present the information.

Lists are subjective. We recognize that. However, recognizing businesses, brands and individuals who invest in the audio industry matters as much as celebrating those who create content and connect with listeners. We hope you’ll take a moment to reach out and congratulate everyone recognized this week. Thank them, too, for continuing to invest in and support the audio industry.

I want to thank Dylan Barrett for creating the artwork for this series. I also want to thank every voter who took time to share their feedback. Now without further delay, here are Barrett Media’s Top 20 Advertising Executives of 2026.


Additional Notes:

  • Dan Granger finished thirty eight (38) points ahead of Brittany Clevenger to earn the top spot in this category.
  • Spot #21 belonged to Andrea James at Steven Singer Jewelers.
  • The closest race saw Christine Travaglini finish three (3) points ahead of Lauren Russo.
  • Twelve (12) executives received at least one first-place vote from our voting committee.

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Radio Hall of Fame Class of 2026 Delivers Laughs, Tears and Gratitude in Chicago

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The Radio Hall of Fame welcomed eight new members Thursday night at the Fairmont Hotel in Chicago. Bobby Bones served as host, adding a perfect blend of humor and charm to the festivities. The Class of 2026 offered a mixture of laughs, tears and a reminder of why radio still matters.

Boomer Esiason, Helen Little, Rickey Smiley, Bob Pittman, Charlie Van Dyke, Dennis Green, Fred Winston and Shotgun Tom Kelly made up this year’s class. Nine lost legends were recognized as well. Four speeches from the evening especially stood out.

Boomer Esiason Makes It About the Team

WFAN producer Al Dukes introduced Esiason and admitted he was nervous when they first teamed up. Dukes had just come off the David Lee Roth show. He expected another alpha male who needed control.

Esiason proved him wrong. Dukes said Boomer checked his quarterback ego, let everyone play their role and trusted them to do their jobs. He also took the jokes. When a caller noted that a Jets greatest plays DVD left Esiason out, the show talked about it on air.

Esiason then compared a radio show to a football team. He joked that playing for the Bengals, Cardinals and Jets was his Bermuda Triangle.

He admitted he first turned down mornings in New York because radio didn’t pay like playing quarterback. Weeks later he said yes, and WFAN paired him with Craig Carton. Esiason said he never had a bad day with Carton until the FBI arrested his partner. Management’s advice that morning was simple: be genuine.

Losing his Monday Night Football television job also opened a door. It led to 19 years on radio and 19 straight Super Bowls. Esiason praised Gregg Giannotti, a fellow Long Islander who missed the ceremony due to an airport ID debacle. He thanked Dukes, Eddie Scozzare and Jerry Recco, and said though the honor wasn’t on his bingo card, he’s honored to be recognized for the work he’s done.

Helen Little Answers Her Doubters

Helen Little used her time to answer everyone who said she wouldn’t make it. The 106.7 Lite FM midday host listed what she heard over the years. She didn’t sound right. She didn’t deserve the job. She’d never get to New York.

When she left programming Power 105.1 to return to the air, some predicted she’d last six months. January marks 19 years. Little said she now leads the largest audience of any non-syndicated show in the country. Her suggested title was cume queen.

She described herself as a shy kid from Salisbury, North Carolina who preferred listening to talking. Radio gave her a quiet strength. She has since worked in seven formats and every daypart, on air and off. Her younger sister once teased that she’d end up inside the radio. And she did.

Rickey Smiley Always Shows Up For His Listeners

Rickey Smiley delivered one of the night’s most emotional moments. His son died on a Sunday three years ago. His bosses told him to take all the time he needed. By Wednesday he was back on the air, and he worked through the week before Saturday’s funeral.

His reason was simple. It isn’t about him. Someone in Chicago, Dallas or elsewhere needed to hear his voice. Smiley called radio a lifestyle, not a job, and a cornerstone of the community.

He recalled driving 55 miles from Birmingham to work on the air for free. Show prep then meant a stack of papers and daily aircheck sessions. He thanked Steve Harvey, Doug Banks, Cathy Hughes, Alfred Liggins, David Kantor, David DuBose, Deon Levingston, Colby Colb and his co-host Da Brat. Smiley said he never expected the Hall of Fame to call. He just kept going to work.

Bob Pittman Credits It All to Radio

Bob Pittman closed the show by crediting radio for what it has brought to his life. The iHeartMedia chairman and CEO explained that he has worked in many businesses and the skills he acquired all came from radio.

Radio taught Pittman math and magic. It taught him how to promote, how to make a dime look like a dollar and how to serve a community.

Pittman also shared his improbable break. He was 20 when general manager Charlie Warner hired him to program WMAQ in Chicago. Pittman called it a crazy move that put Warner’s career at risk. Five years earlier he was making $1.65 an hour. That one job changed his life.

Final Takeaways

Great speeches by a diverse group of broadcasters, all with different paths and stories. Congratulations to Kraig Kitchin, Dennis Green and all involved on a special night. Radio changes lives when people show up, trust their teammates and serve the audience. The Class of 2026 proved it in Chicago.

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Is Disney+ the First Step Toward a Super Bowl Paywall

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Mickey Mouse is getting the Super Bowl this season, and somewhere NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is probably wondering how much he can charge Goofy for a sideline pass. Disney announced this week that Super Bowl LXI, scheduled for February 14, 2027, at SoFi Stadium just outside Los Angeles, will stream on Disney+.

ESPN will produce its first Super Bowl. Joe Buck and Troy Aikman will call it, and ABC will carry the game for the first time since 2006. ESPN and ABC are both Disney properties, so adding Disney+ makes perfect corporate sense. Mickey already owns the house. Why not put the biggest party in the living room?

This announcement raises a question considerably less adorable than a mouse wearing football pads. Is this another step toward a Super Bowl you’ll have to pay to watch?

Not next February. ABC will still broadcast the game free over the air, while ESPN and Disney+ offer additional ways to watch. That’s an important distinction. Disney isn’t taking the Super Bowl away from anyone with an antenna.

Yet.

More Options Means More $

I’ve been around sports media long enough to know that when the NFL announces more ways to watch football, another bill often follows. The league has been moving games to paid platforms for years. Why should we assume its biggest game will remain untouchable forever?

Thursday Night Football moved to Amazon Prime Video in 2022. Peacock carried an exclusive playoff game in January 2024, although the participating teams’ local markets could still watch it on broadcast television. Netflix entered the picture with Christmas games in 2024 and has five NFL games on its 2026 schedule.

Fans don’t just follow their teams anymore. They follow their teams across apps, passwords, billing cycles and the occasional frantic search for the remote. USA Today estimated that watching NFL games during the 2026 season can cost more than $600 over six months, depending on the subscriptions you need.

More than $600 to watch football from your own couch. At that price, somebody should come over and refill the chip bowl.

The NFL isn’t exactly scraping together loose change to keep the lights on. Its national media rights agreements are worth nearly $110 billion through 2033, while league-wide shared revenue reached a reported $14.5 billion. The NFL also has options to reopen most of those major television deals after the 2029 season.

Apparently, $110 billion is a nice start.

An NFL Experiment

To be fair, Disney’s announcement isn’t some sinister plot. It already has the rights and wants its biggest event on as many of its platforms as possible. Disney+ will also stream two Monday Night Football games this season that remain available on ESPN and ABC. That’s added distribution, not an exclusive takeover.

Still, I’d be shocked if Disney and the NFL weren’t watching those Disney+ numbers closely. How many fans voluntarily stream the biggest game in America when they can still watch it free on ABC? That’s a pretty interesting experiment, especially for a league that has spent years moving games behind subscription walls.

We’ve seen this movie before. First, streaming is another option. Then, it’s the only option for a Thursday game, a Christmas matchup or a playoff contest. Fans complain, download another app, enter another credit card number and watch anyway.

That’s not a protest. That’s a business model.

There is, of course, a powerful reason not to put the Super Bowl exclusively behind a paywall. Its enormous reach is the whole point. The audience includes serious fans, casual fans and people who show up strictly for commercials and seven-layer dip. Advertisers pay huge money for that kind of access. Limit the audience, and you risk damaging the very product you’re trying to monetize.

Disney has already sold out its Super Bowl advertising inventory, the earliest sellout in the game’s history. Fifty-eight brands across 34 categories have purchased advertising, including nine first-time Super Bowl advertisers. That’s a massive business built around reaching practically everybody. Limit the audience, and you risk damaging the very product you’re trying to monetize.

It’s a legitimate argument and the biggest reason the game remains free today.

Time Changes Things

Viewing habits change, technology changes and, most importantly, the money changes. Streaming companies are spending billions on live sports because football delivers something increasingly rare in television: millions of people watching the same thing at the same time.

Imagine a streaming company offering the NFL an astronomical amount for exclusive Super Bowl rights. Or perhaps the league starts with a premium version featuring alternate announcers, additional cameras and exclusive content while the traditional broadcast survives. Would that eventually lead to charging everybody?

That’s speculation, not an announced NFL plan, but given the league’s history, it’s hardly science fiction.

I’m not suggesting Goodell is sitting in his office building a $99.99 Super Bowl pay-per-view PowerPoint. Although I’d love to see the slide titled “Fan Benefits.”

What I am suggesting is that the NFL has spent years conditioning fans to pay more for access to football, and every successful streaming experiment makes the next one easier.

The Super Bowl has always felt different. It’s the one game that belongs to everybody, including people who couldn’t identify a nickel defense if it tackled them in their living room. I hope it stays that way, but the NFL has spent years teaching us that football access comes with an extra charge, and fans keep paying.

The Super Bowl is still free. Enjoy it while you can. Someday, the most expensive part of your Super Bowl party might not be the beer, the wings or the ridiculous price of guacamole.

It might be turning on the television.

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Why College GameDay Is a Blueprint for News/Talk Radio Success

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As a huge college football fan, I’ve noticed two interesting data points in recent weeks. First, college football ratings are down 11% so far this year. Second, ESPN’s premier pregame show, College GameDay, remains a monster. College GameDay is averaging 2.83 million viewers through the first four weeks, which is 5% above the record 2025 season average of 2.7 million viewers. Weeks 2-5 each brought GameDay’s most-watched episode of that respective week in program history.

Now, how does any of this apply to News/Talk radio?

It’s further proof that College GameDay has become a destination unto itself. Millions of people tune in before a single snap is played. That’s an incredible achievement in today’s fractured media environment, and News/Talk radio should study it closely.

A Formula News/Talk Radio Knows Well

Large personalities, community engagement and a local feel delivered to a national audience. Sound familiar? That’s also the formula behind many of the best News/Talk radio stations in America.

I’ve seen the rumors about what Pat McAfee might make in his next ESPN contract, and as far as I’m concerned, he will be worth every penny. Because of changing viewer habits and cord-cutting, ESPN’s original programming doesn’t have the juice it had when I was a kid in the 1990s and early 2000s, locked into SportsCenter for the previous night’s game results and highlights. Technology has changed so much about how we consume content and get our information.

College GameDay continues to buck that trend, and McAfee’s arrival as the show’s new lightning rod personality has been a major reason why. Whether you love him or hate him, he sparks conversation, opinions and engagement — exactly what great broadcasters have always done.

Local Flavor, National Appeal

Add in staples such as Rece Davis and Kirk Herbstreit and legendary coaches like Nick Saban, and you have a community of like-minded people participating in an annual ritual. That’s part of the show’s genius. One week it’s Eugene. The next it’s Columbus. Then Tuscaloosa or Austin. Every fan base gets its moment in the spotlight.

The show feels local to the people attending in person while still appealing to millions across the country. That’s a balancing act News/Talk radio has wrestled with for decades, and GameDay may do it better than anyone in media. It reminds us that local doesn’t limit your reach. In many cases, local is what makes people care in the first place.

Every week, the show creates moments through the signs, guest pickers, crowd shots and emotional stories, and it all comes together. Even when it’s not their team, millions tune in every week and feel invested in what’s happening on the show. They’re learning something. They’re having fun. They’re watching huge personalities interact with an audience they view as very similar to themselves.

Habit, Belonging and the Lesson for Radio

What News/Talk has always owned is habit. Just as millions of fans wake up Saturday morning, pour a cup of coffee and turn on College GameDay, great radio stations become part of a listener’s daily routine.

But habits aren’t created by information alone. They’re created by personalities, relationships, shared experiences and community. That’s why College GameDay’s success isn’t really about football. It’s about belonging. Viewers feel like they’re part of something bigger than themselves.

The best News/Talk stations create that same feeling. They become a gathering place for listeners who share common interests, concerns, passions and experiences.

In an era obsessed with clicks, downloads and algorithms, College GameDay reminds us that the most successful media brands still rely on something much simpler: giving people a reason to show up and a reason to come back tomorrow.

And that’s a lesson that extends far beyond sports.

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How KUTX Turned Connection Into Ratings Success in Austin

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Possibly one of the most interesting phenomena in Rock radio today is the runaway success of AAA stations in many markets across the country. Look at the ratings for both non-commercial outlets like KUTX/Austin and commercial stations like WXRT/Chicago, and the success is astonishing.

To Matt Reilly, Program Director of KUTX, the formula driving success for his station and others like it is fairly simple. “AAA connects with the audience in a way that other formats don’t. Because you feel like you know your DJ and they’re into the same things you are.”

He explains that focus comes from an internal branding exercise. “You know how when you do that type of exercise you often have to select words? One of ours is connection and we see it in three ways: audience to artist; artist to audience; and audience to audience.”

The easiest example of that three-way relationship is when the station puts on a live show with a band. “We’re connecting the audience with an artist they may not be familiar with. The artist is getting new audience because we brought them together. And you could very easily strike up a conversation with the person standing next to you and wind up becoming friends.”

Sounding Like Where You Live

On the surface, that sounds straightforward, but there are a lot of layers that play a part in creating those connections. It starts, he says, with the thing that has powered successful stations since the advent of broadcasting: being local. “AAA stations do a really good job of sounding like where you live. Of connecting. Which is different than a lot of commercial stations. They’re KISS FM, or Bob or Jack, or whatever. They could be anywhere.”

For KUTX, sounding local is driven by the air staff, who Reilly says are encouraged to be personalities. “Fifteen years ago, when the industry started getting away from personality and saying hosts should, ‘talk in tweets,’ we went the other direction. We’ve always had big personalities and that works to the whole station’s benefit. It just creates more connection with the audience.”

Hosts Help Pick the Music

Taking a different approach to music is another piece of what connects the station to its listeners. While most commercial stations continue to tighten their rotations, stations like KUTX have expansive libraries, with some categories that include hundreds or even thousands of songs that hosts can choose from.

Reilly explains that current titles are scheduled into each hour to keep a regular rotation, which helps with industry relations. Beyond that, each hour has a template for the hosts to follow, but they select close to half of the songs. “They have to follow a clock but get to choose the sound of their show, and it works. Each host has their favorites, and this provides them the space to incorporate them. Because of that you can tell who’s on when.”

The result is a mix of songs that alternates between familiar and unfamiliar. Reilly believes that recipe works well with the audience. “People will say, ‘I don’t like that one song you’re playing,’ but they don’t leave because they want to know what’s coming up next.”

He also says the styles of music represented on the station have changed over time, becoming younger and more diverse. “At first we were playing in the safer AAA pool, and we skewed a little bit older with blues and Classic Rock. But over time, mostly due to the air staff changing, there’s a lot more hip-hop in the daily mix, and more metal. We’re getting louder, and more diverse.”

Meeting Listeners in Person

Music is only one piece of the KUTX strategy for connecting with people. The station also focuses a lot of effort on live events. “We’re meeting people in person. And I firmly believe that can tie back to rating success,” Reilly says. “Because you’re active, you’re real, you’re tangible human beings. Over time, that builds awareness and you become indispensable in your market.”

As an example, Reilly points to the Rock in the Park series, which takes place in spring and fall. Incentives for listeners to attend include free beer and other sponsor activations, along with two bands and an early start time. “We created this thing when a lot of us who work at the station were young parents. We had little kids and still liked music, but we couldn’t go out to see local acts that would be playing at midnight. So, we created an event that starts at 6.30 and always begins with a kid-friendly band.”

Staying Nimble After Funding Cuts

Beyond building connection with listeners, events like Rock in the Park also generate more than $200,000 a year in sponsor revenue, which became even more important following recent cuts to government funding of public radio. Reilly says at the time of the cuts there was a big surge in listener donations, but that wave has crested.

“We definitely got a bunch of one-time gifts when the rescission happened and since then some of those people have gone away,” Reilly says. “But it’s okay. We’re figuring it out, and thankfully we’re both pretty nimble and very creative as an organization. So, we have decided to not stand pat in these financially troubled times.”

That means looking at every option for generating funds, big and small. “We just did a modest membership drive. We needed about $350,000 and we wanted 500 new members, and we hit our goals,” says Reilly. “We’ve also started looking for new revenue streams. That could be monetizing YouTube, for example. It’s not going to save us, but it’s not going to hurt us either and little things can add up.”

They also launched four different email newsletters, which have thousands of subscribers, and a station ambassador group. “It’s folks that love the radio station. We kind of train them to evangelize for us and we reward them with swag and concert tickets. But they mostly do it because they love it. For them it’s a form of volunteering.”

The operation is also heavily invested in podcasting, with more than 40 shows on its website. That includes rebroadcasts of station shows and original content. Many are music-related, but some take on other issues, like “Tacos of Texas,” which sounds like it’s about food but is really focused on immigration. “All of these efforts are additive. We don’t look to hit home runs all the time. We’re just looking to hit a bunch of singles and hope they add up.”

Finally, Reilly points to one more thing that sets KUTX apart and plays a big role in its success: internal culture. “We have strong Gen X energy here,” he says. “There’s a lot of energy around creating and everybody here gets along. It took a long time to get here. But our previous general manager did a great job of fostering internal culture including a workplace culture committee that makes sure having fun is baked into our mission.”

And for anyone who thinks a commercial station can’t have the type of connection — and fun — that KUTX has, Reilly notes that the station’s original blueprint was largely based on a commercial station.

“My career started at KGSR here in Austin and a lot of what we’ve done comes from what I learned at that commercial radio station because they did it very well. They owned the market. Even my Mother-in-law. who is now 82, used to talk about KGSR and say, ‘well, I don’t like every song they play, but I see them as a force for good in the community.’”

All the effort and audience connection over the last 13 years have put the station into rarefied air along with other legendary AAA stations like WXPN/Philadelphia, WFUV/New York, and KCMP/Minneapolis. “It’s all these stations around the country that are doing what we’re doing, and the result is that we have passionate, loyal audiences that actually donate their spare income to the station. That’s amazing.”

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The Grok Prompt News/Talk Radio Programmers Should Be Using

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Grok isn’t the best AI system on the market, but it might be the most situationally useful one for news/talk radio hosts, producers, and programmers. That sounds like a contradiction. It isn’t, and here’s why.

Every AI system seems to have its own personality, if that isn’t a dystopian word for it. ChatGPT can be a bit of a workhorse. Claude is more thoughtful, chatty, and down-to-earth. Google Gemini prides itself on its research capabilities, and it’s a great generative photo and video creator.

And then there’s Grok. If you didn’t know, it’s Elon Musk’s baby, and he’s poured plenty of time, effort and (most importantly) money into it. Frankly, the results aren’t great. Still, you can harness Grok to your advantage if you work in news/talk radio.

Grok is competitive, which is an interesting personality trait for an AI system. In my experience, that competitive streak pays off when you ask for a star-based ranking. Grok wants to give you the best results possible, so it loves to rank them.

News/talk radio lives on timing, credibility, and conversation. Grok, with its direct pipeline to X — the platform Musk also owns — can surface all three faster than a producer can scroll.

The Prompt That Puts Grok to Work

Like every other AI tool, what you put in determines what you get out. However, how you tell Grok to shape those results matters just as much. I use it to scrub X for content, for instance. If you’ve read a Barrett Media story that includes an X post, there’s a good chance I found it with this prompt:

Score every topic on these five criteria. Use only 0, 0.5, or 1 star per category. Borderline cases default to the more favorable score.

  1. Recency
  • ≤ 24 hours old → 1 star
  • 24–48 hours old → 0.5 star
  • Older than 48 hours → 0 stars
  1. Credibility
  • Accounts operated by major news media figures → 1 star
  • News media-focused X account not affiliated with a legitimate outlet → 0.5 star
  • Random person → 0 stars
  • If a story is confirmed by a major source (or writers who work there — check bios), it qualifies for full credibility.
  1. Engagement
  • Discussed by multiple credible sources and generating meaningful comments, reposts, quotes, etc. → 1 star
  • Engagement mainly among non-credible/random X users → 0.5 star
  • Little to no significant engagement → 0 stars
  1. Heat
  • Breaking news involving a major talent or brand, hirings or firings, contract extensions, programming changes or clear hot-button conflict → 1 star
  • Involves important topics but not top-tier or national brands → 0.5 star
  • Routine update with little conflict or emotional charge → 0 stars 5. Shelf Life
  • Likely relevant up to a week or longer → 1 star
  • Probably lasts a couple of days → 0.5 star
  • Likely dies within ~24 hours → 0 stars

Turning Stars Into Show Prep

Moreover, the star system sorts the noise for you. A five-star topic is fresh, credible, loud, hot, and durable. Consequently, a producer can scan a ranked list in two minutes instead of scrolling for an hour.

So, how can you use this to your advantage? If you’re a host or producer, start with the talent you already plan to discuss. Maybe that’s someone on MS NOW, or personalities like Don Lemon and Joy Reid. Have Grok search specifically for things they’ve said or content they’ve produced. Their highest-engagement posts are likely what your audience cares about, so ask for them.

Meanwhile, programmers can build a quasi-geofence. Ask Grok to highlight the most trending topics in your city, market, or state. What’s drawing the most attention? What’s flying under your radar? Those answers can shape a morning rundown, a promo strategy, or a daypart overhaul. Local relevance wins in news/talk radio, after all, and X chatter can show you what your market’s really talking about.

Twitter Isn’t Real Life, But It Still Matters

These are just a couple of options, and I know “Twitter isn’t real life” is a legitimate argument. Still, X is where news figures break stories, trade shots, and shape the conversation. Besides, a ratings book can’t tell you what happened at 7 a.m. today. A well-built prompt can.

Of course, verify everything. Grok can misread a post or surface a rumor, so confirm each story with a second source before it hits air. In other words, treat Grok like an intern with great scouting instincts.

Ultimately, more information is rarely a bad thing. Grok might not be the best AI system out there, but with the right scorecard, it can earn a spot in your prep routine. Give it a try, then tell me what you find.

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