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Leland Vittert: Nobody Deserves A Free Pass During Town Halls

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The 2024 Presidential campaign is already well underway, and prospective Republican nominee Vivek Ramaswamy is about to embark upon a town hall with NewsNation. The event will be moderated by chief Washington D.C. anchor Leland Vittert, and he believes it’s his duty to ask fair, but difficult questions.

Ramaswamy will sit down with NewsNation for 90 minutes Monday evening, with Vittert fielding questions from an in-studio audience, as well as pre-recorded questions from potential voters.

When Leland Vittert was asked what he hopes viewers take away from the event, he said a feeling of who Ramaswamy is sits at the top of his list.

“I hope they come away with a better understanding of who Vivek Ramaswamy is. His strengths, his weaknesses. There’s going to be audience questions of people who seem more positive towards him, and there’s going to be audience questions of people who have real, difficult questions for him,” Vittert told TVNewser. “That’s the landscape right now, so I want people to come away feeling like they understand a lot more about who he is and that he’s gotten a fair 90 minutes of being able to explain to the American people who he is and why he wants to be president and the audience has gotten a fair opportunity to question him.

“Remember, all of these people running for president are asking for the job that George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, and Barack Obama had. Nobody deserves a free pass when they’re coming to interview for the most important job certainly in America, if not the world.”

Jon Jansen to Lions Fans Complaining About Tornado Coverage: ‘Get Over It’

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Lions fans that wanted to watch their team’s first preseason game on FOX 2 in Detroit didn’t get the kind of viewing experience they were counting on Friday. A tornado appeared in the viewing area and the television station responded by going into emergency coverage. The game between the Lions and New York Giants stayed on part of the screen. The other half showed meteorologist Stephanie Miller giving updates regarding the storm’s path. The audio for the game was eliminated.

That decision drew ire from some fans in the Motor City. Heather Stone shared some of the angry comments Monday morning on 97.1 The Ticket. Jon Jansen was not having it.

“For anybody to be that upset about the coverage, first of all, that is mandated that FOX does,” the Stoney & Jansen co-host said. “And that you’re upset about missing the audio of a preseason game? Get over it.”

Jansen admitted that his daughter had left the game and was on her way home when the storm warnings began. That may have explained his emotional reaction to hearing the complaints. Still, he says it makes no sense to think a preseason game would take priority over information that could save lives.

He added that the complaints about not being able to follow the action were not valid. The game was still on the screen. There were options for people that felt like they really needed to hear the audio of the game.

“Turn on Dan and Lomas!” he said, referencing the Lions’ radio broadcast which airs on 97.1 The Ticket.

Severe weather had been affecting Oakland County all day on Friday. FOX 2 responded to the outcry on social media by clarifying that they understand the complaints, but in the case of emergency weather, the network is obligated to prioritize informing the public of the danger and keeping them safe.

Rich Eisen Launching ‘OverReaction Monday’ Podcast

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Ahead of kickoff for the 2023 National Football League season, Rich Eisen is introducing a new podcast inspired by one of the most popular segments on his eponymous radio program, The Rich Eisen Show. Eisen will be joined by co-host Chris Brockman for the new OverReaction Monday podcast, during which the duo will give their opinions on the quarterback play each Monday. The range of topics will extend beyond the NFL, also encompassing the performances of college quarterbacks on Saturdays.

“Every Monday, we’re going to dive into the headlines from pro and college football and overreact,” Eisen said. “Are you ready, Chris Brockman? Yea or nay?”

“Yes, Rich,” Brockman said. “No holding back buddy – I’m coming for you.”

The overreactions, for now, have to do with preseason performances affecting projections for the regular season. Over the course of the NFL offseason, it has expanded to include more than just quarterback play, discussing various news items and transactions with the potential to affect the football landscape.

While it has not been confirmed, OverReaction Monday will likely still be part of The Rich Eisen Show, which is available to listen to on various radio stations, podcasting platforms and streaming live on Roku Channel. The podcast will presumably add another layer to the segment, which frequently garners hundreds of thousands of views on a weekly basis. Barrett Sports Media has reached out to Cumulus Media for comment.

KMOX News Reporter Kevin Killeen Departing

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After 28 years, KMOX news reporter Kevin Killeen is departing the St. Louis news/talk station.

He is leaving the Audacy-owned station to join the St. Charles (MO) County Office of Communications as its Managing Director.

“Here at KMOX for 28 years, I’ve been rotating the same three neckties,” Killeen, widely known for his humor, joked during an appearance on Total Information AM. “I’m gonna have to really step up my game.”

Kevin Killeen continued by noting that he first fell in love with KMOX as youngster, and it became his dream to work at the venerable St. Louis station.

“I was really attracted to the wordplay,” he said. “What do you think makes good radio? The people who are on it, if they are the kind of people you would want to ride in your car with across Kansas, and just hear their voice. Like (Total Information AM co-host) Debbie Monterrey. Her voice in the morning, it’s so calm, you get up you think ‘I don’t want to get up’, but you hear a calm voice in the morning and you think ‘Alright, she got up. I can get up’.

“Good radio is also not just the personalities and the voices but they take you someplace that you wouldn’t get to yourself and it kind of takes you out of your world. And it broadens you. Then you have some knowledge of things through KMOX and radio that you wouldn’t have if you just listened to music all the time.”

The news of Killeen’s departure comes after the announcement that former KFMO Program Director and host Sean Malone was joining KMOX as a news reporter.

Ryan Ruocco, JJ Redick, Richard Jefferson Named No. 2 NBA Broadcast Crew for ESPN

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ESPN confirmed previously-reported information regarding its coverage plans for the 2023-24 National Basketball Association, headlined by the new lead commentary booth joining Mike Breen. The network announced that it has reached a multi-year contract extension with Doris Burke and a multi-year agreement with Doc Rivers, elevating both analysts to work with Breen on NBA Saturday Primetime on ABC games, the Eastern Conference Finals and the NBA Finals on ABC. The new information divulged, amid earlier speculation that analyst JJ Redick could have an expanded role after calling 25 games last season, is that he is now joining a regular broadcast booth.

After a successful second year with the “Worldwide Leader” that included frequent appearances on First Take, NBA Today and other studio programming, Redick will now be part of the network’s secondary broadcast team. He will be joined by lead WNBA play-by-play announcer Ryan Ruocco and analyst Richard Jefferson to call the NBA Sunday Showcase series on ABC. Jefferson also reached a multi-year contract extension with ESPN, and he will make his debut as a full-time game analyst during the opening week of coverage in October. Additionally, the new secondary broadcast triumvirate will work in tandem during the season and in parts of the NBA Playoffs.

“The one thing you have to do in this business is always have succession planning. In that team, you have the potential making of a succession plan,” NBA Head of Event and Studio Production Dave Roberts said. “It might be 10 years away, but at the end of the day, the NBA, based on the product, whether it’s in the in-season tournament, games on Saturday night on ABC or whatever – the play-in; the extended playoffs – I think it’s important there is a clear No. 2 team.”

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Mark Jones and Dave Pasch return to call NBA games next season, marking Jones’ 33rd year calling games with the network. For select games throughout the season, Jones and Pasch will be joined by Hubie Brown to form a three-man booth. The Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame member and former NBA coach begins his 20th season with ESPN and his 50th overall with the NBA.

ESPN reached a contract extension with Brown that will have him continue to call NBA games for next season, and he and network leadership have kept an open dialogue on a year-by-year basis. Over his time with the network, Brown has become one of its most recognizable talents on its basketball coverage and has the respect of his colleagues and fans.

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ESPN endured various layoffs of prominent on-air talent, including Jalen Rose, Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson within its NBA coverage. It came after The Walt Disney Company’s leadership directed its business entities to identify expendable areas to cut $5.5 billion in operating costs, resulting in slashing 7,000 jobs.

The decision to let go of Van Gundy and Jackson broke up the longest-tenured national broadcast booth in the Association, and one that generally received positive feedback from fans. While Van Gundy and Jackson have yet to decide whether or not they will remain in sports media, they could prove valuable to networks seeking to land NBA broadcasting rights upon their expiration after the 2024-25 campaign.

“Doris has proven herself as one of the top analysts covering the NBA for quite some time,” Roberts said. “I’m looking forward to seeing her and the chemistry she already has with Doc Rivers. They’re close friends and they have a mutual respect for one another both professionally and personally, and those are key ingredients in having the kind of chemistry you have to have on any team.”

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As for Rose, he continues to host a podcast with the New York Post where he talks about sports and culture at large. Taking his seat on the lead NBA Countdown studio show will be Bob Myers, a two-time NBA Executive of the Year award winner and four-time NBA champion with the Golden State Warriors. Myers will be joined by new show host Malika Andrews, who will also anchor coverage of the NBA Finals.

“I strongly believe we have a deep bench of talent, and again, there are multiple shows that we work on all day long,” Roberts said. “….We’re never going to be in a situation where we have one team that’s going to be on eight weeks out of the season or 18 weeks out of the season for pre and postgame shows. That’s just not how we operate here.”

The rest of the cast remains the same, with Stephen A. Smith, Michael Wilbon and Adrian Wojnarowski all confirmed as returning. Wednesday and Friday editions of the show will include Andrews, Jefferson and Wojnarowski, along with analysts Kendrick Perkins and Chiney Ogwumike. Moreover, Andrews will continue as the lead host for the third season of NBA Today, and will be backed up by Ogwumike for select programs.

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Smith was moved off of the ESPN edition of NBA Countdown, a move that Roberts affirms was made out of a consciousness towards his workload. Last season, Smith launched an alternate broadcast – NBA in Stephen A’s World – and it featured many guests from the sports and entertainment industries providing their perspectives about basketball and beyond. Roberts confirmed that the alternate broadcast will return next season, but just how it is going to be carried out is still in deliberation.

Those involved in NBA coverage at the network are anticipating salient moments throughout the year, such as the launch of the in-season tournament and LeBron James potentially being named to an All-Star team for the 20th time.

92.3 The Fan to Celebrate 12 Years on the Air

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Twelve years after flipping to the sports format, 92.3 The Fan is planning an unprecedented celebration to honor its time on the air. The station is holding an event called The Dirty Dozen next Friday, Aug. 25 where all of its local programming will be live together on one stage. The announcement was made Monday morning on The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima, where they welcomed original station host Andy Baskin to the air to talk about the significance of the event.

“I just want to go back and relive all the nasty calls we got from the beginning era of 92.3 The Fan,” Baskin said. “All the people that were mad that we were not playing alternative music anymore. Oh wait, there weren’t very many of those.”

“Remember, you were in the middle of the day,” Carman replied. “I was at night – there were a few more of those calls.”

The station previously broadcast modern rock and alternative music before moving to sports on Aug. 29, 2011. Getting people to listen to the new sports station was a difficult task during the early days because of the familiarity the station had fostered with its audience.

“Can I tell you about a Saturday night show for five hours that I did where I had to beg my friends to call?,” Lima said. “I went out there after the show and said, ‘Well, maybe I should have stayed in television.’”

While it was not ideal to be taking calls from people looking for music, Carman remembered eventually just giving in so he could have other voices over the air. Through his proficiency as an on-air host, he was able to shift those conversations to focus on the topic at hand.

“It just became a big Nirvana or Foo Fighters debate and then I go, ‘Alright, what do you think about the Browns?,’ and they’d eventually get in about the Browns,” Carman said. “….We’ve taken many a call that was much more unhinged since that time.”

Lima, along with Carman and Baskin, are looking forward to reminiscing on the early days of the station and its evolution to this point at the forthcoming event. Carman made sure to remind listeners that they can be a part of it by listening live or using the rewind function on the Audacy app. Over the 12 years, the Cleveland sports scene has had several triumphs and tribulations – including a World Series appearance in 2016 and long-awaited NBA championship by the Cavaliers during that same year.

“It has been a tremendous honor to be with both of you at the same time,” Baskin said to Carman and Lima. “I enjoyed working with you over the last two weeks individually to hear all of your little faults on how you guys get under each other’s skin. It has been fantastic being able to jump in on the morning show.”

CNN Unveils New Weekday Lineup

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CNN has unveiled a new weekday lineup that includes brand-new programs for the cable news channel.

Phil Mattingly has officially been named the co-host of CNN This Morning. Mattingly has been the main fill-in anchor since Kaitlan Collins departed the morning show for her primetime program. Original co-anchor Poppy Harlow will remain alongside Mattingly.

Additionally, Pamela Brown will host a newly launched early afternoon show The Bulletin with Pamela Brown. The show will begin at 3:00 PM ET and replace an hour of CNN News Central as a lead-in to The Lead with Jake Tapper.

Abby Phillip has been named the new anchor of the 10:00 PM ET window, which is currently filled with CNN Primetime. Phillip joined CNN in 2017 after previously working at The Washington Post and ABC News.

It was also announced that Laura Coates will anchor a new Washington D.C.-based late-night show, beginning at 11:00 PM ET. Coates was originally tabbed to anchor a late news program while the network was under the direction of Chris Licht, who ultimately scrapped those plans. After the reversal, Coates was named the network’s chief legal analyst.

“One of CNN’s key differentiators is our deep roster of experienced journalists, reporters and storytellers,” said CNN’s four-person leadership team, made up of Amy Entelis, David Leavy, Virginia Moseley and Eric Sherling, in a statement. “Many joined CNN early in their careers and have grown with the network throughout the years.”

CNN also announced new plans for its weekend programming. On Saturday mornings, Victor Blackwell will anchor a new show beginning at 8:00 AM ET. Michael Smerconish will remain in the 9:00 AM ET timeslot, while Chris Wallace and Christiane Amanpour will join at 10:00 AM and 11:00 AM ET respectively.

Also, Manu Raju will now helm the weekend edition of Inside Politics for the network.

“By expanding the range and depth of our programming lineup across multiple dayparts, we are strengthening our reporting excellence throughout the schedule, elevating our ability to tell great stories across platforms, and doubling down on CNN’s position as the most trusted name in news,” the network’s leadership team concluded.

The 2023 BNM Summit Welcomes Ramsey Solutions Founder and CEO, Dave Ramsey

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If you’ve ever watched the movie ‘Field of Dreams’ then you’re likely familiar with the famous James Earl Jones quote ‘if you build it, they will come‘. That’s the approach I take each year when putting together one of our Summit’s. Book a nice venue in a great city, add the right people for the right sessions, attract the right group of industry professionals to the event, and more often than not, people will want to be part of it.

That may not be the exact strategy followed at Ramsey Solutions, but if you look at the company’s track record, it’s all about quality and consistency. From publishing books to hosting radio shows, creating digital content, putting on public events, delivering helpful financial guidance and more, when the Ramsey name is attached to something, it tends to be a hit. After all, you don’t build the equivalent of a University in Franklin, TN if you’re not on the right side of things most times.

I’ve had the pleasure of being in the building where Dave Ramsey operates. It’s an impressive location. One of my favorite parts of the experience was seeing how many people stopped by to watch the radio show, earning an opportunity to say hello and grab photos with Dave during breaks. It showed that when the cameras and mics aren’t on, regardless of his success, Dave Ramsey makes time to connect with his audience.

So when we began exploring the possibility of bringing a conference to Nashville, I knew I really wanted to sit down and talk about the business with Dave Ramsey. I’m happy to share that on Wednesday September 13th that will happen at the 2023 BNM Summit as part of our Day 1 Keynote Conversation.

Dave is the founder and CEO of Ramsey Solutions. He’s been helping people take control of their lives and finances since 1992. He’s an eight-time national bestselling author, personal finance expert and host of The Ramsey Show, which is the 2nd largest nationally syndicated radio program reaching 20 million listeners per week. The show also boasts a large YouTube following, and is consistently atop the iTunes podcasting charts in the investing category.

We’ll cram as much as we can into our 35-minutes together on stage, and I’m sure a few in attendance will want to say hello to him afterwards. From the growth and success of financial talk, the rise of podcasting and video, the advertising climate in 2023/2024, the importance of having multiple revenue streams to grow a brand, the future of talk radio on the AM dial, and the complexity of having to install a vision that produces current results while simultaneously developing a Succession plan, we’ll have plenty to talk about.

For planning purposes, the conversation with Dave Ramsey will take place Monday September 13th from 11:05-11:40 CT. I’ll have a few more additions to announce for the Summit later this week. We’ll then reveal the full schedule of sessions and speakers on Monday August 21st.

If you are planning to come but haven’t bought your ticket yet please do so before it’s too late. I’ve had a number of people email, text, DM, and tell me in person that they’d be with us in Nashville. Some have even booked hotel rooms. I appreciate that, but to be inside the room you must have a ticket or be involved in the event as a speaker. Doublecheck that you’ve taken care of it because once it’s showtime, I won’t be able to help as I’ll be hosting on stage.

This lineup is action packed, and I couldn’t be more excited about the way it has come together. I’m grateful to all of the programmers, executives, and decision makers who have made time to fly to Nashville to be with us. I am equally appreciative to have great support from top personalities and major Nashville entities such as Outkick, Ramsey Solutions, and Blaze Media (would’ve loved to include Daily Wire too but it wasn’t in the cards).

Just as important, I want to extend a big thank you to all of our partners: Steve Stone Voicers, Collette, Core Image Studio, JJ Surna Voiceovers, Radio America, Bonneville International, Good Karma Brands, and Audacy. We do have a few more opportunities still available so if your company would like to be included, email Stephanie at Sales@BarrettSportsMedia.com. We will be finalizing all sponsorship opportunities by Monday August 28th.

Clay Travis: I Don’t Want to Worry About Reacting to News

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OutKick founder Clay Travis continues his nationwide book tour. American Playbook: The Guide to Winning Back the Country has been praised by many hosts in talk radio. Travis says that he developed the concept for his book by drawing upon his experience in sports.  

Travis hosted a morning show on Fox Sports Radio for years before Premiere Networks paired him with co-host Buck Sexton to take Rush Limbaugh’s spot on nearly 600 radio affiliates across the country.  

“So much of what we do sometimes is reacting in radio and TV to what’s going on,” Travis told Mark Levin. “I really wanted to sit down and not have to worry about reacting necessarily to the day’s news.”  

Travis said he wrote the book from the perspective of a Republican strategist creating a winning playbook for elections. 

“That was the premise that I started with, and then I wanted to write it in an accessible, easy-to-understand, engaging way,” he said. “Because here’s the other thing, I want people to like it, but I really want people to give it to their kids and grandkids and say, ‘Hey, think about this.’”  

Clay Travis added that it’s important to compete for the hearts and minds of younger generations.  

Chris Mueller is Where He Wants to Be, But Still Wants More

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After graduating from Penn State University with a degree in journalism in 2007, Pittsburgh native Chris Mueller took an ad-sales job in Philadelphia. For a variety of reasons, it didn’t work out so he moved back to Pittsburgh where family members tried to convince him to enter a contest for the local ESPN Radio affiliate for a chance to win a six-month contract to host a sports-talk show.

At first, Mueller was hesitant to do it, but his sister-in-law finally “twisted his arm” enough to enter the “Top Fan” contest.

“I frankly thought there were going to be people who were way better who were trying out,” recalled Mueller. “I ended up winning. I was 23 years old in 2008 solo hosting by the end of that summer. You pinch yourself and realize how fortunate you are to have been in a situation, and a time and place, and how much luck and good timing played a role in things.”

When that six-month contract was over, Mueller relocated back to Penn State territory moving to State College to do sales for a radio station. In 2010, as he was busy putting together demo tapes from his experience at ESPN Radio, Mueller found out from a friend that there were plans in place for a new all-sports radio station back home in Pittsburgh.

Today, people who are looking for on-air jobs in radio will generally submit an mp3 demo to a program director, but back then Mueller did it the old-fashioned way.

“For people reading this now they will probably laugh but actual demo CD’s and not just an mp3 file,” said Mueller.

Admittedly, Mueller did not expect any kind of response but that demo CD impressed Terry Fox, the first Program Director at 93.7 FM The Fan in Pittsburgh. After listening to the CD, it took less than an hour for Fox to call Mueller and arrange an interview.

So, Mueller hopped in his car in the middle of a blizzard and drove from State College to Pittsburgh for the interview. His hope was simply to land a part-time gig that would bring him home again and be part of something new and exciting.

As it turns out, Mueller hit the jackpot.

“Low and behold, I got probably the best surprise of my life 3 or 4 days later when [Terry Foxx] called and said ‘We’re starting this station in a couple of weeks and we want you to do 2a to 6am.’” 

In that moment, Mueller wasn’t thinking about it being the overnight shift or how he was going to come up with topics or if there would even be any callers.

He was just overcome with emotions.

“It was ‘Oh my God! This is actually happening,’” said Mueller. “I’m not embarrassed to say that I distinctly remember a happy cry happening. I tried to call any family member that I could think of what was happening because it was definitely a surreal, unexpected and pretty incredible moment.”

And the moments have been piling up ever since. He’s been with The Fan for thirteen and a half years including more than a decade co-hosting afternoons from 2p-6p, originally with Joe Starkey, and now approaching a five-year anniversary doing The PM Team with Poni and Mueller with Andrew Fillipponi.

There was a time when Mueller was doing the overnights and Fillipponi preceded him from 10pm to 2am and that’s when they got to know each other a little bit. Five years after being paired as a team in the afternoon, they’re crushing it together.

“I’m a little bit of an off the wall guy, and he could be a little bit more nuts and bolts at times and straight ahead but I think the show has blended both of those personalities,” said Mueller. “I think after five years, we both kind of know what the other one likes to do and how the other one likes to go about doing it. I think it makes it really easy to do a show with someone every day. It doesn’t feel like work. It feels like you’re coming in to have fun.”

And fun is what Mueller has had since The Fan went on the air in 2008. It’s special to have been a part of something new, but it’s even better to be a part of the station’s continued success.

Mueller took advantage of an opportunity and he’s run with it, even though it wasn’t really part of his initial plans.

“I feel incredibly fortunate because even coming out of college it was not something I thought I would ever actually get to do for a career,” said Mueller. “I had an inkling of how competitive the business was and almost wasn’t even intending to try to get in.”

Success in sports radio is not a given. For every story like Mueller’s there’s hundreds and perhaps even thousands who either didn’t make it at all or just didn’t have staying power.

Talent can be very subjective in the eyes of radio executives. There’s also not a lot of patience. Mueller is well aware of the landscape.

“I read Barrett Sports Media,” said Mueller. “I understand that not everyone is getting that chance in every market and that there’s a lot of turnover. I feel a ton of pride about being involved with a station that has stood the test of time for almost a decade and a half now.”

Along the way in his career, Mueller has learned a lot about the business from some very important people who have become valuable members of his inner circle.

It goes without saying that his current partner is one of them.

“One of the recurring themes of my life has been people like Andrew Fillipponi,” said Mueller. “I’ve been fortunate enough to work with him. I think he’s one of the most talented guys out there.” 

Another person who has had a tremendous impact on Mueller is Gregg Giannotti. The current WFAN morning co-host of Boomer and Gio previously hosted mornings in Pittsburgh at 93.7 The Fan before going national with CBS Sports Radio and CBS Sports Network.

“I was fortunate enough to work around Gregg who is unbelievably gifted at this medium,” said Mueller. “Hearing the way he would just structure topics and come up with angles is something that has stuck with me. He has been an unbelievable sounding board for me. I probably annoyed the heck out of him way more times that he would ever admit and I could count asking for advice.”

And there was the time when Mueller had the opportunity to fill-in hosting The DA Show on Audacy-owned CBS Sports Radio. It was a great opportunity for Mueller to work with the show’s producer/personality Shaun Morash who is now part of the afternoon show on WFAN.

“I would like to put this in all caps,” asked Mueller during our phone conversation. 

“WORKING ON THE SAME SHOW THAT PRODUCED SHAUN MORASH WAS A TRUE HONOR AND PRIVILEDGE.

“He’s another guy who is similar to me. He’s pursuing a dream. He’s very authentically himself and you come to realize that people really like the way he brings it to the table.”

Mueller has hosted other national shows for CBS Sports Radio which has given him the opportunity to talk about topics that may not necessarily be a fit for the show at home in Pittsburgh.

Initially, Mueller wasn’t sure doing national shows was going to be right for him, but Ken Carman from The Fan in Cleveland convinced him to do it.

“I’m glad that he did because it’s a totally different thing to do,” said Mueller. “It’s fun in a different way. It kind of forces you to flex your brain a little bit. Like the NBA is not a big deal in Pittsburgh. Nobody really follows it but if you’re doing a national show, chances are you’re going to have an NBA topic.” 

Mueller’s story is one that should inspire anyone looking to get into radio. These jobs don’t grow on trees but if you want something bad enough and/or are in the right place and right time, things can work out.

Home is where the heart is, but Mueller is not finished climbing up the ladder.

“Once you feel that you’ve gotten to a certain place, you still always want more,” said Mueller. “You want to do better in the ratings. You want to always try to go onward and upward. You want to make the show sound every day more like or closer to this idealized perfect four-hour show every day. You’ll never get there but you kind of go into it knowing that. I’m happy where I am but I the goal is to always get better and never stop enjoying it.”