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Matt Taibbi: I Was Targeted By IRS After Testifying Against Government Weaponization

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Journalist Matt Taibbi unveiled worrisome allegations on Wednesday concerning the excessive actions of the IRS, according to reports on Twitter.

Taibbi appeared on Fox News and discussed the timing of initiating an IRS inquiry. The IRS apparently chose to commence their investigation precisely when Taibbi was getting ready to provide testimony before the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Government Weaponization.

Committee Chairman Jim Jordan highlighted the sequence of events in a letter addressed to Danny Werfel, the head of the IRS. Jordan stated that the scrutiny of Taibbi’s financial affairs commenced on December 24, 2022, which happened to be Christmas Eve. Christmas Eve in 2022 fell on a Saturday, raising questions about the peculiar timing.

Taibbi confirmed the accuracy of this timeline during the Fox interview, suggesting potential political motives behind the investigation. Although Werfel assumed office in March 2023, the acting commissioner at the time was appointed by Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen.

During the interview, John Roberts, the interviewer, astutely remarked that it would be highly unusual for the IRS to undertake such a significant matter on both a holiday and a Saturday. Taibbi concurred with this assessment, particularly in light of his recent publication exposing the close connection between the FBI and Twitter. Taibbi raised concerns about the suspicious appearance, or “optics,” surrounding the IRS’s targeting of him.

“[The IRS examination] was a three-year-old case, and I didn’t owe them any money. So all of those factors combined to make the optics of this really strange,” Taibbi explained.

“You would wonder what supervisor would be calling an agent on a Saturday and asking him to come into work to open up a case,” he added.

On the day Taibbi provided his testimony to the committee, the IRS appointed an agent to handle his case. Roughly a month later, on January 27, 2023, the agency assigned an agent for direct interaction with taxpayers. This happened the same day Taibbi testified before Jordan and Plaskett’s panel.

As anticipated, the investigation concluded that the government owed money to Taibbi instead of the other way around. Although he was initially hesitant, Taibbi now acknowledges that the motives behind the investigation were evidently political.

“But now I don’t think there’s really a whole lot of doubt that this was somehow politically motivated. At least it has the appearance of that. And I think they need to answer some questions about why they made this decision,” Taibbi said.

Megyn Kelly: I Support DeSantis Choosing Twitter Spaces, But Execution Was Horrible

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Megyn Kelly: I Support DeSantis Choosing Twitter Spaces, But Execution Was Horrible

On Wednesday, all attention was focused on Florida Governor Ron DeSantis as he joined Elon Musk on Twitter Spaces to announce his presidential bid for 2024 formally. However, according to Megyn Kelly, the highly anticipated event experienced technical issues and service interruptions during the initial 30 minutes, which raised concerns about Tucker Carlson’s upcoming transition to the same social media platform.

During an episode of her podcast, The Megyn Kelly Show, on Thursday, she pointed out that while the glitches were primarily on Elon Musk and his platform, DeSantis’ team should have taken greater precautions to ensure readiness. Kelly hoped these issues would be resolved before Tucker Carlson started using the platform, as crashing with 600,000 viewers would not be feasible for him.

With assistance from Musk, the much-anticipated campaign launch of DeSantis experienced a bumpy start, going from a stuttering stream to a complete outage even before the politician could address the audience. At its peak, Twitter Space attracted 650,000 listeners who were left disappointed and dark as moderator David Sacks’ voice could be heard in the background, remarking, “It just keeps crashing, huh?”

“It was embarrassing and awkward and had the bewildering, unsteadying feel of a disaster unfolding before your very eyes,” she said. “You can’t look away, yet you’re viscerally uncomfortable watching, too.”

Kelly clarified that she backs DeSantis and Musk in their endeavors to move away from conventional media, similar to her departure from Fox News with her podcast. She also stated her endorsement of DeSantis’ policies, albeit with some exceptions. Nevertheless, Wednesday’s event ultimately solidified itself as a disappointingly underwhelming occasion on both fronts.

“Kudos to all involved for choosing a different medium and bypassing the mainstream media, which hates DeSantis, and which is hated by most Republican voters,” Kelly said. “I support that mission, but its execution here, to put it kindly, did not work. How on earth were the kinks not worked out beforehand?” 

Charlie James Hosting 98.9 WORD Show From Southern Border

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Charlie James Hosting 98.9 WORD Show From Southern Border

Charlie James, the afternoon host on news/talk 98.9 WORD, will be conducting live broadcasts from the Southern Border in collaboration with the Americans For Prosperity Foundation regarding the ongoing issue of illegal immigration.

James will be broadcasting his regular shows from Yuma, Arizona on May 30th and 31st, between 3-7 PM. The town has been significantly impacted by illegal immigration.

“On this trip, we’re ripping up the talking points and bringing you actual observations and conversations with those directly affected by the crisis at our southern border. I look forward to delivering these real-time moments to the WORD audience,” James told Talkers.

This exclusive coverage will provide an in-depth exploration of the border crisis, going beyond the information shared by the White House.

Tune in to The Charlie James Show Live from The Southern Border next Tuesday and Wednesday from 3 to 7 PM, exclusively on News/Talk 98.9 WORD, The Voice of The Carolinas.

AM Radio Advocates Aren’t Fighting the Right Fight

Demetri Ravanos
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AM Radio Advocates Aren’t Fighting the Right Fight

There is still value in AM radio. That has been made tremendously clear over the last few months as Congress has rallied to fight against automakers eliminating the band from the dashboard in 2024 models. 

The arguments were effective for at least one company, as Ford has decided to reverse course and preserve AM radio in their cars. The same cannot be said though for the other seven car manufacturers. They aren’t interested in being in the amplitude modulation business anymore.

Our industry is taking up a worthwhile cause, but the arguments being made on Capitol Hill and in open letters ring hollow. Even though I am not rooting for cars to be manufactured in a way that makes it harder for any listener to hear their favorite station, I can see the carmakers’ point of view. I get why they wouldn’t be swayed by these arguments.

Remember what we are fighting here. No one wants to outlaw AM radio. No one is trying to pass a bill to make it illegal to carry legal advice and gardening shows.

Carmakers are making a business decision. Electric vehicles’ engines interfere with AM signals. Making the necessary changes in order to keep that from happening costs money that they don’t see as a necessary expense. How do we combat that?

Instead, we are talking about EAS systems. That has nothing to do with the fight we are fighting. I have worked at AM stations. I have worked at FM stations. We carry those alerts on both bands. In the event of severe weather or national emergency, both bands go to wall-to-wall coverage. 

If we aren’t trying to fight a bill that makes AM radio illegal, then this argument is irrelevant. Even if stations go out of business, if AM is imperative for distributing emergency information, the government has a responsibility to find ways to keep that distribution system operational. 

We talk about how important the band is for sports fans. We romanticize listening to a game on the radio. Nostalgia is great if your audience has the nostalgia, but what if they don’t?

I grew up having to listen to Alabama games on AM radio. Guess what? It sounded like shit. I’m not eager to experience it again.

Some of right-wing talk radio’s biggest stars have made the argument that this is another step in silencing conservative voices. That can easily be disproven by the fact that Elon Musk’s Tesla was the first automaker to announce the removal of the AM band. You can also simply pointing to the number of FM talk stations that carry those very same programs.

“No one is loyal to amplitude modulation or frequency modulation,” Larry Rosin told me before this year’s BSM Summit. Our audience chooses content 100% of the time. They are not loyal to AM or FM. They aren’t even loyal to a particular station. They are loyal to themselves, and that is perfectly understandable. 

The one time I tried to watch an episode of Yellowstone, I was positive the people that call it the best thing on TV were playing a prank on me. I didn’t give it a second chance because it didn’t entertain me in the least. It had nothing to do with preferring streaming to cable or a vendetta against Paramount Network.

Seriously, there’s a joke I’m not in on, right? Yellowstone is bad.

Again, I am not advocating for the end of AM radio. I am advocating for making smarter arguments and fighting the right fight.

If AM radio is harder to access, stations will lose money and that means that they will likely cut staff. Job losses are not good for people being able to make ends meet, let alone buy new cars. That is an argument to make to elected officials who want to win future elections and to carmakers that want to sell new cars.

Yes, people can find the information they need on an FM station in the event of an emergency. Doesn’t it make sense to preserve all choices in a car though? If an AM radio listener switches to streaming music or podcasts because the content they want isn’t readily available, they could miss that emergency information.

Now, it sucks, but there is one more thing to consider here. 

Maybe this is a war AM radio cannot win. Maybe the best we can do is win some individual battles and buy ourselves a little time.

Technology is ever-evolving and that isn’t going to change. We have already seen it. Newspapers struggle in the age of the internet. Tape decks are replaced in cars by CD players. Even when you go to the movies, it is rare that you are watching film being projected onto the screen. Now it is digital video.

Better ways of delivering information and entertainment come along all the time and slowly replace what we have always relied on. NAB and radio groups are fighting to preserve AM radio. They should also be making sure that their listeners and advertisers are well-acquainted with all of the ways to access their content. 

Fighting to keep AM radio on the car dashboard is worthwhile, but when you’re fighting technical innovation, any victory is temporary. Let’s not be so narrowly focused that we forget that the ultimate goal for the stations on AM is that the content survives.

Eddie Olczyk is Jacked Up For the Stanley Cup

Derek Futterman
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Entering the broadcast booth before a game, Eddie Olczyk can be doing any number of things. Whether it is watching warmups, interacting with his colleagues or simply taking in the environment, he recognizes how fortunate he is to still call his workplace. Another recurring setting, albeit outdoors, are horse racing tracks, the venues from which Olczyk has not only broadcast, but also competed as an owner in marquee events.

“Pucks and ponies are a big part of my life, and I’m very passionate about it and handicapping and I have always been a horse player and horse owner,” said Olczyk, who just returned from working for NBC as part of the network’s Kentucky Derby coverage. “I think it’s really helped my ability to communicate a little bit more for hockey because a lot of that is more the one-on-one and the verbalization and has to do with storytelling.”

Olczyk played hockey for 16 seasons with the Stanley Cup at the forefront of his mind. He eventually achieved his goal during the 1993-94 season, helping the New York Rangers capture their first championship in 54 years. A few months after the ticker tape parade, the world of hockey came to a standstill.

The league was in a lockout, meaning Olczyk, at least for the short term, was out of a job. One of the locations he had brought the Stanley Cup was the Meadowlands Racetrack in East Rutherford, NJ. He became friendly with some of its regular spectators and owners.

“The people at the Meadowlands said, ‘Hey, you love horse racing [and] you love to handicap,’” Olczyk recalled. “‘You’re not working. Would you like to come and handicap the races at the racetrack and do our wrap up show? Kind of just dabble in the media?’

Stunned to receive an offer to be paid to show up to the racetrack, Olczyk did not hesitate. He quickly began working with commentator Barbara Foster and absorbed a profusion of information about being a professional in sports media. Olczyk served as her sidekick during the proceedings over the ensuing three months and returned to professional hockey once the dispute between the league and its players was resolved. He was dealt to the Winnipeg Jets later that season, and then played with the Los Angeles Kings, Pittsburgh Penguins and hometown Chicago Blackhawks before hanging up the skates.

  Growing up in Chicago, the voices of sports media were firmly ingrained into Eddie Olczyk’s subconscious. He eventually had the privilege to meet some of them and call them his colleagues. They served as inspiration for him to refine his craft and work to become a viable broadcast partner for play-by-play announcers, producers, directors and other personnel. 

“I don’t think anyone could ever shoreside me for not aligning myself or getting a chance to work with some of the greatest voices in NHL history,” Olczyk said. “I’m very lucky and I’m sure their shoulders are probably a little sore from carrying me for all those years, but it was very educational. They were obviously very instrumental.”

Once he exited the game though, Olczyk signed on with Fox Sports Net Pittsburgh to become the color commentator for Penguins games. He was paired with play-by-play announcer Mike Lange, his first bonafide partner when it came to working in sports media. 

That job did not last very long, because he became the head coach of the Penguins for the next two seasons. After a slow start to the 2005-06 season, Olczyk was relieved of his head coaching duties, but still wanted to remain around the game of hockey. 

The very next season, he joined the local television broadcasting team for the Chicago Blackhawks, the team he grew up watching and played for during two separate stints. He worked with an announcer he listened to in his youth: Pat Foley.

Foley wasn’t his only partner for very long. Eddie Olczyk quickly jumped into the national spotlight. His previous experience on NHL Radio taught him the subtle, yet essential differences in those broadcasts, and he ultimately earned a chance to work with Mike “Doc” Emrick on Versus/NBC Sports.

At the end of the 2006-07 season, Olczyk called his first Stanley Cup Finals with Emrick. He would do that for the next 13 seasons, watching the greatest players of a generation such as Penguins forward Sidney Crosby and Washington Capitals forward Alexander Ovechkin get their names etched on the trophy. As he balanced the national job with his role calling Blackhawks games locally, Olczyk felt like he had made it to the highest level sports media had to offer – but only after earnest recognition from his esteemed colleague.

“Doc was doing an article of some sort and they asked him about our relationship,” Olczyk remembered. “I’m paraphrasing, but Doc said, ‘I hope that when Edzo is 65, he has somebody that takes care of him as he has taken care of me.’ I just thought that was obviously very humbling, but when you can get the stamp of approval from Doc Emrick, you’ve done something right, and that I will take with me the rest of my life.”

Whether it was calling the Cup Finals, featured regular season matchups or the Olympic Games, Olczyk’s time working with Emrick was special both while at the game and on the road. He misses going out to dinner, attending meetings before each broadcast and the camaraderie between him and the rest of the NBC Sports crew.

Emrick called it a career in 2021, after broadcasting hockey for more than four decades. Kenny Albert slotted in as the new lead voice of hockey for NBC Sports. While Albert is a skilled and versatile commentator having called baseball, basketball, football and hockey both locally and nationally, Emrick and his direct association with this magnificent game on ice is indisputable.

“When you heard his voice, you knew it was an important game, and he just had that incredible ability in the fastest game in the world to be able to stickhandle and weave a story while play is going on and never break stride,” Olczyk said of Emrick. “That, to me, was something that was just really incredible.”

The National Hockey League inked a seven-year media rights agreement with The Walt Disney Company and Warner Bros. Discovery to begin the 2021-22 season. When Olczyk signed with the latter outlet, he knew he would not be on the broadcast for the Stanley Cup Final. Instead, he would have that duty every other year. 

“Obviously it was an incredible relationship there with TNT and ESPN on the NBA side, so this isn’t two major entities just all of a sudden coming together,” Olczyk stated. “The more eyes that we can have on our sport, the better it is short term and long term.”

On the local front, Eddie Olczyk departed Chicago Blackhawks broadcasts after 15 seasons. He quickly found a new home with familiar faces and a young NHL team with a bright future – the Seattle Kraken. The move was very much a family affair since Olczyk’s brother, Ricky, is the team’s assistant general manager. In addition to that, Olczyk’s oldest son of the same name is an amateur scout, and his other son, Nick, is a studio host on the television broadcasts.

“New is always scary. Without a doubt, there’s always trepidation,” Olczyk said. “It was an incredible opportunity to be there and work with so many talented people and see the improvement for the team…It was an incredible first year.”

The Stanley Cup Finals will be on TNT for the first time in the network’s history this season. It is a seminal occasion for Warner Bros. Discovery, highlighted by the presence of the Stanley Cup at its Upfront event at Madison Square Garden: the arena in which Olczyk hoisted the trophy in jubilation on a summer night 29 years ago. 

“I’m excited for everybody because coming together two hockey seasons ago, [there were] a lot of unknowns but a lot of us obviously knew each other,” Olczyk said. “The leadership at the top has just been incredible and reminds me a lot of my journey at NBC. Everything is first class; every day is first class. It’s awesome.”

Albert last called the Finals with Olczyk on NBC Sports, but they were not paired together for the entire series. This time around, they will be the primary booth for the NHL on TNT, and Liam McHugh will anchor studio coverage with a cast of analysts including Paul Bissonnette and Wayne Gretzky.

“We’re here to entertain [and] we’re here to talk about the greatest game in the world and showcase the greatest athletes and sell the game,” Olczyk said. “I don’t think any of that will stop, but I think knowing the room and having a feel and letting everything else take care of itself [is important].”

It will be Albert who will announce to the world that a team has just claimed the sport’s ultimate prize and Olczyk is excited to listen to how he will punctuate the call. Yet he knows the craft is very much a team effort. Now, he is ready to demonstrate his shrewd ability to break down the game on its biggest stage.

“It’s not hard to be jacked up for a Stanley Cup Final, but I think it’s, again, knowing the room, having a feel and knowing when to go ahead and be elongated – and at other times, know when you’ve just got to get in and get out and let Kenny do his thing. At some point in the Cup Finals, it’s going to be Kenny’s time, and he’s going to have to take it. When the time presents itself, we’ll jump in.”

During the hockey season, Olczyk is constantly traveling, following teams and fully immersed in the sport. When he made the move from Chicago to Seattle, there was a time when he thought it may just be better to do one game per week, but he determined that he was not ready to step back just yet. He remains motivated by the competitive aspect of the work and trying to be the very best analyst in the business, and does everything in his power to put himself in the best position to succeed.

There’s Never Been a Better Time To Take AM Radio To Market

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Your AM radio station really is better than your mobile phone. Now is the time to make that case. Thanks to Ford’s decision to NOT drop AM radio from its 2024 lineup of vehicles, many of your clients have an awareness of AM that they have not had for a while. Streaming and mobile dominate the conversation, so this is a chance to make critical points about your AM station. 

The fight over the Emergency Broadcast System being partly delivered by AM radio and not replaced by mobile phone streaming was made in Congress, and Ford listened. The NAB rallied.

Nobody can argue that mobile phones aren’t more convenient and can stream or provide pods, but your AM radio station stands out in a digital crowd. Be proud. Here is why we should let the AM force be with us and why it’s an invaluable tool for businesses to reach a target market. 

WIDE AND LOCAL

AM radio can carry a powerful signal that allows for wide geographic coverage. Local businesses looking to connect with their entire community can benefit from such a wide net. By buying a local ad schedule on AM radio, businesses will promote trust and loyalty and increase brand awareness. This is especially true of legacy local businesses that have been in service for 25 years or more. 

RELIABILITY AND ACCESSIBILITY

AM radio is reliable and easy to get to. Just turn on your car radio. Mobile phones need a good connection, and that can be tricky. Big AM radio stations have multiple towers to transmit over the air, even during power outages or when cell phone towers are knocked over. Dependability is vital when the chips are down, and an emergency or natural disaster has hit your area. Mobile phone networks can get too much traffic and jam up. The ability of AM radio to provide critical information and updates is huge! 

NICHE AND TARGETED AUDIENCES

There is no arguing that streaming off a mobile phone opens a world of choices. But AM radio hits sports fans, political nerds, religious folks, or news hounds. Los Angeles has prominent sports radio stations on AM. AM advertisers can tap into these audiences, so the right people hear their message. It is much easier to navigate buying radio from you than streaming from a website. 

PERSONAL AND DOWN THE STREET

AM radio stations often have deep roots within their communities and provide a real personal connection with their listeners. Local play-by-play programming, talk shows, and news updates are often fodder for locals to debate and share their opinions. How does a mobile phone stream do that? It would be hard to call into your favorite show off a delayed stream with your device to listen to it. Businesses can enhance their credibility and build strong customer relationships when swimming in AM radio waters.

For sure mobile phone streams are convenient and accessible. But AM radio has reach, loyalty, local connection, reliability, and target audiences. And AM radios will be available in Fords for the foreseeable future. 

News Radio Should Celebrate Audio-First Decision From Ron DeSantis

Pete Mundo
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Ron DeSantis launched his 2024 Presidential run on Twitter Spaces on Wednesday night to much fanfare. By now, you’ve seen the hot takes on how the enthusiasm for DeSantis crashed Twitter or, depending on your preferred candidate, the rollout was a disaster and is a sign of things to come for his campaign. I’ll let the opposing campaigns and fanboys/girls, and news radio hosts hash that part out between themselves.

What’s far more interesting from a media perspective is DeSantis’ platform choice. It was not legacy media. He did not choose Fox News, Newsmax, etc., but more interesting was the fact he chose an audio-first medium on Twitter. There was no visual element at all.

Ron DeSantis did the equivalent of a radio interview to announce his 2024 bid. Yes, he hopped on Fox News later that evening with Trey Gowdy, but the official announcement and first media interview came on Twitter, without any video component. 

As radio programmers, hosts, and salespeople, we should be doing cartwheels and leveraging this moment.

For too long, TV has been overrated. It’s been a perfect storm. You have politicians who love seeing themselves on TV to feed their egos, and many of their advisors and media buyers have backgrounds in the medium, so it becomes an echo chamber.

From the ridiculous overspending during election season on overproduced, phony, repetitive television spots that produce diminishing returns (rather than the far more cost-effective and impactful radio ads), to the obsession with capturing every TV opportunity they can, TV has become overvalued in recent elections.

Ron DeSantis’ decision on Wednesday night may have been the move that makes many realize where they have missed the boat in recent years. 

If used in a calculating manner, DeSantis’ moment can benefit radio programming and sales.

Programmers should be pitching any of their local candidates in legitimate races that matter to try and get their candidacy announcement on radio. “If Ron DeSantis can go audio-first, why isn’t it good enough for you?” This would bring earned media for the candidate and radio station and the TV hits would follow.

On KCMO, we landed the announcement interview with former KC TV anchor Mark Alford, who used that springboard to win an open U.S. Congressional seat in 2022. 

From a sales perspective, this could also be a game changer in helping PACs, agencies, and campaigns understand the personal nature of the audio-first medium, which radio still dominates, despite what the naysayers claim.

During the 2022 cycle, radio did exceed its estimates in political advertising with $310 million, compared to the projections of $270 million. But that’s peanuts compared to the $4.73 billion spent on broadcast TV, according to this article from Radio Insight.

That is absurd. And it is the very definition of diminishing returns. Whether it’s a Presidential candidate in a key state or city, or more appropriately for this column, a local U.S. Senate, or congressional, candidate in your market, there are two paths.

One, they can become another overplayed, tune-out TV ad, where their ego is stroked and they get noticed in the grocery store, but they don’t get the value from the spending they need. 

Or, two, they can own radio, which will be more cost-effective, impactful, personal for the listener, oh, and reach a potential voter that is 10-15 years younger, on average, than those still watching broadcast TV. 

None of this is to suggest that TV is not important, of course, it will forever be critical to have a visual component for politicians in the 21st century. But it’s not everything. It never has been and it never will be, despite what the differential in ad spending suggests. 

If audio-first is a good enough launch for one of the front runners to land in the White House in 2024, I’d say it’s more than good enough for anyone else entering the political arena at any level.

Jimmy Pitaro: ESPN Priority is Expanding Our Audience & Pat McAfee Does That

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The announcement of Pat McAfee joining forces with ESPN raised a lot of questions as to whether McAfee’s daily brand of sports talk can sustain itself for the long-term on cable.

But ESPN president Jimmy Pitaro has no doubts that Pat can be wildly successful for years to come. He spoke with The Big Lead recently and said bringing McAfee’s show to the daily lineup allows the network to tap into a different audience.

“When we talk about our priorities at ESPN, one of the things we always mention is audience expansion,” Pitaro said. “That means a lot of things, but it especially means attracting a younger audience. We feel like Pat really helps us in that regard.”

“I have a son and a daughter, both of whom not just know who Pat is but they like him, and I have a father who also happens to really like Pat,” he added. “That’ll tell you a lot about his appeal.”

Also expanding the relationship between The Worldwide Leader and McAfee made sense in Pitaro’s eyes. The two sides already have a history.

“We’ve been in business with Pat for some time by now,” he said. “He’s done a fantastic job for us on College GameDay, he’s done some alternate broadcasts that have really resonated with our audience, so we feel like his show is a natural extension of what we’re already doing.”

Pat McAfee: Bobby Carpenter ‘is 1 of 1’

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While scrolling through his Twitter feed on Thursday, Pat McAfee caught a glimpse of a commercial featuring Columbus radio host Bobby Carpenter. The commercial was something McAfee and his crew could not wait to share with the audience.

McAfee mentioned almost in passing to co-host AJ Hawk that he had seen that the 97.1 The Fan host had signed an endorsement deal with Garage Beer.

Hawk said the commercial was pretty sweet, and so naturally the spot was played on the show.

“I’m so happy that I just glimpsed at that at some point during my scrolls earlier,” McAfee said laughing. “Imagine if we didn’t have that in our life.”

Pat McAfee enjoyed just how natural Carpenter was and showcased the beer in a way that only he could.

“That guy, he’s 1 of 1, huh?” he said.

Some of Carpenter’s lines had Pat wondering if the commercial was actually scripted or whether the company thought it would’ve just been more fun to let Bobby be himself.

“He’s either really acting, or he’s practicing his lines and they just took the practice,” McAfee said.

Colin Cowherd: Listeners See Jason McIntyre As My Little Brother

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It’s still early in Jason McIntyre’s run on The Herd with Colin Cowherd. Cowherd explained how he and the audience see the partnership thus far.

“When I do this show, one of the things that cracks me up, because J-Mac has only been on the show through the football season – about six months or so,” Cowherd said Thursday. “Everybody goes, ‘Oh he’s like your little brother who holds you accountable.’ And I kind of like that.”

Colin went on to add that he tries to make sure he doesn’t date himself too badly when throwing various references out there.

“I have to be careful because I am older than J-Mac, he is not aware of a lot of what happened in the 70s unless it was Northeast,” he said.

Denver Nuggets legend Alex English was the next guest on the show, and Cowherd asked if McIntyre had ever seen any of English’s highlights. English played in Denver from 1980-90.

“I’m older than you think and yes, I can name just about any NBA player from 1985, 1986,” McIntyre responded.

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