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Behind The Voices: Matt Fogarty

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Matt Fogarty is a voice actor based in Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada. His website describes his work as “Human connection, authentic POV, meaningful content and killer audio.”

We will discover that voice acting is a family affair in the Fogarty household.

Matt Fogarty is today’s featured voice actor.

Jeff Lynn: I’d like to start with your background. What led you to the studio you sit in today?

Matt Fogarty: My background is radio. I was a creative director for 14 years and started doing voiceover work for clients of the station. I built it from there. 

JL: After COVID, many people have jumped into this side of the business. How do you make sure you stand out?

MF:  Much like radio advertising, I think top-of-mind awareness is a big part of it. Being visible. Reaching out, making connections, and having a quality body of work and demos to showcase your skills. Great agency partnerships and strong relationships help, too.

JL: What advice would you give someone wanting to enter the voice actor business?

MF: Treat it like a business from the start. Invest in yourself. Coach. Work hard.

JL: What’s a normal workday like?

MF:  Wake up at 5:30, gym from 6:00-7:00, and in the booth by 7:30. Then it’s voicing requests from clients, directing sessions, auditions, and marketing. Take a quick break for lunch, go for a short walk or bike ride, and back in the booth until it’s time to pick up the kids from school, then some family time and complete any remaining work tasks until the end of the day (the timing of which varies!)

JL: What other voice actors do you admire?

MF: Dave Pettitt, Lisa Keys, Brian Lee—I have a great deal of respect for so many talents, but those are the first three that come to mind.

JL: You also take acting classes. How does that enter into your work?

MF: Voice acting is acting, so absolutely, yes. Taking on-camera/in-person acting classes has given me more tools to layer into my voice work. 

JL: Tell me three funny things about yourself that others may not know.

MF: I played guitar in two bands in high school (punk rock and blues). My favorite food is lasagna with Caesar salad and garlic bread (yum).  I have two daughters who also do VO!

Check out Matt’s Demos here.

Meet Everley, his daughter, and check out her work here. Lynley, his youngest daughter, will have a demo soon.

Atlas Talent Agency, Premiere Talent in Vancouver, and Ta-Da Voiceworks in Toronto represent Matt.

Connect with Matt directly here.

Seller to Seller, Sales Meeting

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to our sales meeting where our topic will be the ‘Wind of Change.’ For many of you, you just thought of the famous Scorpions song with the great whistling. By the way, here is a pro tip for you if you like podcasts. There is a podcast series called Wind of Change, which is one of the best podcast series I have ever listened to. It is about that song and a wild rumor the host investigates that the song was written by the CIA. Put it on your list if you enjoy podcasts, it is eight episodes and is especially great for a long road trip.

Ok, back to the lecture at hand (you didn’t think I could work the Scorpions and Dr. Dre into one column, but here we are). The wind of change is happening all around in our business. Most recently there were two major examples with WCBS going away and being leased to ESPN New York and in Kansas City Alt 96.5 was dropped in favor of sports. In both of these cases, salespeople and their clients are impacted. Change is happening, conversations need to be had.

So, what happens when you are the salesperson and change you had nothing to do with is happening and now you have to go talk your client into something else, when you worked your tail off to get them on in the first place? Now you have to go save the account.

Let’s face it, telling someone something is not going the way you or they expected it or has to change is not an easy conversation. But things happen. Things happen to your client in their business, and while they might be a little disappointed if you spent a lot of time narrowing down a target market, came up with a great campaign for an alternative music audience and the sales rep now has to come in and tell you that station will be sports next week.

Heck, I worked for a group once with an AM News/Talk station that spent years selling against the FM News/Talk station in twon. It was a pretty bitter rivalry. I am certain there were salespeople spending time in meetings MF’ing the other station. Then one day, the big corporate group that owned the AM bought the company that had the FM. Now they were together and salespeople who had been selling against the other station, now had to sell that other station. “Hi, remember all those terrible things I said about that station before? Ha, just kidding, they are with us now and what I found out is, they actually aren’t horrible monsters who lie about everything and rip off their clients with overpriced advertising, it’s a great station, want to advertise on it now?”

The truth with change is that a lot of how it is handled has to do with how something was sold in the first place. Sell your benefits and never mention your competitors unless you are asked a direct question and even in that case, turn your comment into something positive about what you represent. Don’t be that person that has to tear something else down in order to get a sale.

When important change is happening, the first thing you need to do is make sure your clients hear about it from you and not someone else. You can’t always control this but do your best to reach out to your people, see as many in person as you can and talk them through what is happening. Explain the why behind it, or as much as you can, and then offer solutions that ties back to your original discussions with the client.

If, for example, Company X was sold on a strong 18-34 station, and you don’t have something else to offer them on radio that can hit that same audience, work on a digital plan or possibly an event. The point is, have something ready that offers a solution. Unless you have done it recently, it is a great time to go over the needs analysis with the client and make sure nothing has changed. Maybe something has and the change you are worried about telling them turns out to be a good thing.

No matter the situation, you are the expert about what is happening at your radio station(s), at least that is how the client sees it. The client, on the other hand, should be more in the know than somebody who doesn’t have the working relationship with your company. The worst thing that can happen is someone else tells them important station news before they hear it from you. Actually, I take that back, the worst thing would be if that someone else is a sales competitor.

Change is never going away in our business. Know that and remember that any situation is ultimately about how you react to it. Always take good notes so you remember why you sold what you sold to someone, what were you trying to accomplish. This way, when inevitable change happens, or for any other number of reasons, you can refer back to the information.

WTOP Morning Host John Aaron Has Been a News Junkie Since Listening to the Station as a Kid

Firefighter, actor, car enthusiast, and radio anchor. WTOP morning host John Aaron is more than just a jack-of-all trades, he’s living his dream hosting on the same station he listened to as a kid. “It’s super cool, I did not plan it this way,” Aaron told Barrett Media. “It was just kind of the way fate imagined things for me, I guess. I’ve been consuming news voraciously ever since I was a young kid, and WTOP was a big part of that.”

Aaron was always interested in news. “I’ve just always consumed news like crazy,” he said. “When I was a kid, I remember when we first got cable, I would watch Headline News, and my little sister would be going crazy because she wanted to watch some Nickelodeon cartoon and I’m like, ‘No, I want to watch the news.’”

The decision to study broadcasting was easy, and Aaron was making plans even in high school. “When I was in high school, I was a huge baseball fan and I thought that was my calling, writing about baseball,” he said. “I wound up studying the communications aspect of everything in college and then realizing I liked the radio/TV part of the program as much as I like the writing, because I do absolutely love the writing part. I think [writing] is a really important part of being a good professional in our job. Being able to write well not just for your audience, but also if you have to do something in print form.”
    

While he attended Villanova University he said, “I was a fireman in college [in Radnor, Pennsylvania]. That was like a huge learning experience for me in terms of, working under pressure and getting used to being on alert all the time. And it also helps me talk to our first responders.”

After school (and fighting fires) he landed an anchor/reporter role in Gettysburg and then covered sports for Comcast SportsNet before coming home to Washington, D.C. Today he and his co-host, Michelle Basch, give life to a 5-hour morning show five days a week. “We’re always scanning,” he said. “We’re always looking for things. We don’t have a shortage of news in Washington DC so that kind of works itself out where the news is constantly coming in.”
    

Their show is more than just news, they look for the fun stories, stories that make you think and some that “aren’t being picked up far and wide but are still really interesting and really impactful to people.”

Additionally, what makes theirs a top show in the market are the friendships which happen off mic. “Michelle and I are friends, so we click great on air, and all of that comes through in the final product… We work really well with our producers. They’re outstanding. Our whole team is really great, and we’re able to get past that level of, ‘hey, here is what’s happening’ [and bring our listeners to] ‘here’s what’s happening and here’s the context and if you take a step back, this is why this is important.’”

Aaron noted the person pushing the show to greater heights is his co-host. “Michelle is outstanding,” he said. “I think that she should be given full credit for showing up every single day and coming totally prepared to make us better. And I love the fact that she critiques the hell out of everything, especially my work…She gets so much credit for raising the bar where we are.

“I had been filling in in the morning show for like ten years, and I’ve been anchoring on weekends, reporting during the week. So I don’t think I was an unknown quantity, but still, to give me the opportunity that I knew I could do but maybe other people didn’t necessarily know for sure that I could.”

One of Aaron’s favorite segments is the Friday Test Drive. “I get cars from manufacturers, I drive them for a week and then I give them back,” he said. “Then I write a piece that is a bunch of silly jokes and for some reason they keep giving me cars,” he added in jest.

A notable review is that of the Toyota Gr86. “Instead of a review, I just wrote an open letter to my wife saying, we need to buy a Toyota Gr86 sports car,” Aaron said. “That was my review. And I said, it doesn’t matter that we don’t fit in the car, and it doesn’t hold our stuff and that the kids said they were squished. We just need to buy the car. The manufacturers liked it. Even though I said in the review the car is totally impractical, don’t actually buy the car. But everybody was happy because it was it was a lot of fun.”

For those looking to follow in Aaron’s lead, his advice is simple. “Be flexible,” he said. “Not any of this unfolded the way I had planned and that doesn’t mean it’s not exactly what I want, but you have to be very well-rounded. If an opportunity presents itself, you can’t say, ‘Oh, well, I’m not really good at this aspect of my work or this aspect.’ You have to be able to do it all. You have to be willing to step in and go outside of your comfort zone whenever you need to.”

Aaron also noted the importance of being aggressive. “Always look for opportunities,” he said. “Don’t get dismayed… You have to persevere because it is a highly competitive industry. It is not a bottomless industry. And you will rise to the top if you’re good.”

104.5 The Zone Names Zach Lyons Co-Host with Blaine Bishop for ‘Blaine and Zach’

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Cumulus Media announced the addition of Zach Lyons as co-host of their new afternoon show, ‘Blaine and Zach’, on Nashville sports station, 104.5 The Zone. The show airs weekdays from 1:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m local time. Lyons will be joining forces with Blaine Bishop, a former hard-hitting safety for the Tennessee Titans and four-time Pro Bowler. He replaces Mickey Ryan, who left the station after nearly ten years in mid-May.

Additionally, Lyons will join Brent Dougherty, Lucas Panzica, and Kevin Dyson as Co-Host of 104.5 The Zone’s Titans postgame show, Titans Talk Back.

Lyons co-founded BroadwaySportsMedia.com and hosts the Football and Other F Words podcast which will join the podcast lineup on the 104.5 The Zone Podcast Network. 

Paul Mason, Operations Manager, Titans Radio/104.5 The Zone/SuperTalk 99.7 WTN, said in a release: “The exciting on-air duo of Blaine Bishop and Zach Lyons will ignite afternoons on 104.5 The Zone, delivering destination sports talk at its best. Zach is very well-versed in analytics and will bring an interesting dynamic to the show alongside Blaine, a popular Titans alumnus. Zach is also a great addition to our Titans postgame show, and we are thrilled to have his podcast, “Football and Other F Words” join the 104.5 The Zone Podcast Network.”

Zach Lyons commented: “I am in shock that I will be living out a dream that I have had for decades. The fact that I get to talk shop with a legend like Blaine Bishop on 104.5 The Zone every day is just the cherry on top. Honored and grateful for all the support, especially from my wife Loren, and look forward to bringing listeners the best two hours of sports radio throughout the week.”

ESPN Announces 2024 College Football Broadcasting Teams

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As the effects of realignment are realized across various Power Five conferences and the College Football Playoff expands to 12 teams, ESPN is prepared to bring fans comprehensive coverage of the upcoming college football season. With a roster featuring versatile commentators, insightful analysts and shrewd reporters, The Walt Disney Company’s ESPN and ABC networks will cover the new season from Week 0 until the College Football Playoff National Championship Game in January.

The company currently has media rights deals with the College Football Playoff, Southeastern Conference, Atlantic Coast Conference and Big 12 Conference within the Power Five. ESPN also signed an eight-year media rights agreement with the NCAA earlier this year that includes domestic rights for coverage of FCS, Division II and Division III football championships.

Chris Fowler, Kirk Herbstreit and Holly Rowe will return as the lead broadcast team calling Saturday Night Football matchups on ABC. Fowler and Herbstreit have worked together on college football coverage for the last 28 seasons, starting in 1996 on College GameDay, and have called 10 CFP National Championship games together. This will be the 11th year that Fowler and Herbstreit will work together in the Saturday Night Football broadcast window, Rowe is entering her 29th college football season for ESPN and ABC and recently won a Sports Emmy Award for her work last year. The trio makes its season debut on Saturday, Aug. 31 when Notre Dame faces Texas A&M at 7:30 p.m. EST on ABC and ESPN+.

Sean McDonough returns as a play-by-play announcer for the upcoming season in addition to serving as the lead announcer for the NHL on ESPN. For the 2024 season, he will continue working with analyst Greg McElroy, who has appeared on programming for ESPN and SEC Network and currently hosts the Always College Football podcast from ESPN and Omaha Productions. Sideline reporter Molly McGrath returns to the announcing team for her fifth season in the role and recently signed a contract extension with ESPN.

Play-by-play announcer Joe Tessitore, who recently became a commentator for World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE), will work with analyst Jesse Palmer and sideline reporter Katie George for the second consecutive season. Ahead of the new season, Palmer signed a contract extension with the network and is entering his 17th season with ESPN. George has continued demonstrating versatility at the network, covering the NBA, XFL, F1, NCAA volleyball and college football for her sixth year on the sidelines. These three announcing teams will rotate commentary duties for the new SEC on ABC property under the first season of a 10-year deal with The Walt Disney Company reportedly worth a collective $3 billion.

Several new broadcast teams are spotlighted within the ESPN/ABC Saturday lineup, including Mark Jones, Roddy Jones and Quint Kessenich working together for the first time. Louis Riddick is working with Bob Wischusen and Kris Budden throughout the college football season while also commentating select Monday Night Football games as well. Rules analyst Bill LeMonnier and Matt Austin are returning to the network coverage as well on Saturday Night Football and on all ESPN platforms, including SEC games, respectively.

The lead SEC Network broadcast team of Tom Hart, Jordan Rogers and Cole Cubelic will work together for the eighth consecutive season. Meanwhile, the ACC Network will introduce a new trio of play-by-play announcer Wes Durham, analyst Tom Luginbill and reporter Dana Boyle for ACC Primetime Football games. Marc Kestecher will continue calling college football games on ESPN Radio this season with analyst Kelly Stouffer and reporter Ian Fitzsimmons. The national radio platform will also include Mike Couzens delivering play-by-play announcing with two-time Super Bowl champion and Florida alumnus Max Starks providing analysis.

A full list of broadcasting teams can be found below:

Play-by-Play AnnouncerAnalystReporter
Chris FowlerKirk HerbstreitHolly Rowe
Sean McDonoughGreg McElroyMolly McGrath
Joe TessitoreJesse PalmerKatie George
Mark JonesRoddy JonesQuint Kessenich
Bob WischusenLouis RiddickKris Budden
Dave PaschDusty DvoracekTaylor McGregor
Tiffany GreeneJay Walker
Tom HartJordan RodgersCole Cubelic
Wes DurhamTom LuginbillDana Boyle
Matt BarrieDan MullenHarry Lyles
Anish ShroffAndre WarePaul Carcaterra
Brian CusterRod GilmoreLauren Sisler
Taylor ZarzourMatt StinchcombAlyssa Lang
Eric FredeJack Ford
Marc KestecherKelly StoufferIan Fitzsimmons
Mike CouzensMax Starks
Dave FlemmingBrock OsweilerStormy Buonantony
Roy PhilpottSam AchoTaylor Davis
Mike MonacoKirk MorrisonDawn Davenport
Dave NealAaron MurrayAshley ShahAhmadi
Jorge SedanoOrlando FranklinMorgan Uber
Chris CotterMark HerzlichColey Harvey
Jay AlterRocky Boiman
Lowell GalindoFozzy Whittaker
Mike Corey | Courtney LyleRene Ingoglia
Matt SchumackerDustin Fox
Noah ReedCraig Haubert
Clay MatvickSteve Addazio

Some of the additional announcers returning and/or joining coverage this fall include:

Play-by-Play AnnouncersAnalystsReporters
James WestlingCharlie StrongSherree Burruss
Jason Ross Jr.Barrett BrooksMarilyn Payne
Drew CarterCharles ArbuckleTori Petry
Roxy BernsteinTyoka JacksonAshley Stroehlein
Richard CrossForrest ConolyShane Sparks
Shawn KenneyRandy BuffingtonJustin Walters
Beth MowinsJordan ReidMike Peasley
Doug ShermanRyan Cavanaugh
Ted EmrichMarcus Ray
Matt SchickTaylor McHargue
Robert LeeJay Sonnhalter
Dan GutowskyLeger Douzable
Anthony LimaJe’Rod Cherry
Joey LindstromLaDarrin McLane
Michael ReghiReggie Walker
Nate GatterByron Chamberlain
Eric RothmanAhman Green
Kelsie KasperBrad Hopkins
Jack BenjaminDoc Holiday
Kevin FitzgeraldPatrick Murray
Chris Carlin
Joe Tordy
Mark Neely
Peter Sousa
Chuckie Kempf
AJ Ricketts
Justin Kutcher

The following ESPN commentators signed new contracts with the company ahead of the new season:

Name
Steve Addazio
Dana Boyle
Stormy Buonantony
Je’Rod Cherry
Richard Cross
Taylor Davis
Ted Emrich
Dave Flemming
Dustin Fox
Orlando Franklin
Lowell Galindo
Tom Hart
Tyoka Jackson
Chuckie Kempf
Molly McGrath
Taylor McGregor
Dan Mullen
Aaron Murray
Brock Osweiler
Noah Reed
Michael Reghi
Jason Ross Jr.
Matt Schumacker
Ashley ShahAhmadi
Doug Sherman
Matt Simms
Lauren Sisler
Morgan Uber
James Westling
Fozzy Whittaker
Taylor Zarzour

Dan Le Batard: ESPN Bringing Back ‘The Sports Reporters’ As YouTube Show Misses Target Audience

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ESPN is reportedly considering bringing back The Sports Reporters. While details are scarce, some reports say it would only air on YouTube, which Dan Le Batard believes would be a mistake.

The last episode of the long-running program aired in 2017. Jeremy Schaap, the son of the original host Dick Schaap, is reportedly the front-runner to lead the revitalized program for ESPN, with Al Michaels and Joe Buck being floated as potential panelists.

Dan Le Batard, however, believes that hosting a nuanced show featuring sports journalists is better suited for an older audience, which ESPN isn’t likely to attract by putting the program exclusively on YouTube.

“I think there’s going to be a big audience — a big, old audience — but a big audience,” co-host Stugotz said Tuesday.

“A big, old audience that doesn’t know how to find YouTube,” replied The Dan Le Batard Show host. “[It] can find an AARP magazine because they’re still buying magazines, but won’t be able to find how to pay for Sunday Ticket because it’s on YouTube.”

Le Batard added that the issues facing the show in 2017 when it ended its run — the number of NFL pre-game shows on linear television — still exist in 2024.

“It got banished to ESPN2 — they ran it off. Football came and stomped it out,” the host argued. “Football comes on Sunday mornings and just shits on everybody…. and now it’s coming back on YouTube and I ask you, ‘What is the audience for that?’”

Before discussing the topic, Dan Le Batard noted that he hadn’t “talked about anything sports media-related” for two weeks, and deserved credit for not stirring up any conversations with his Meadowlark Media crew.

Rock 92.9, Boston Is Moving

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Beasley Media Group’s WBOS (Rock 92.9) is moving. On September 3, Bloomberg Radio will be heard on 92.9 with “Dave and Chuck The Freak,” and the rest of the lineup moving to WBOS FM-HD2.

Other options for hearing the station include 106.1 FM and 1330 AM, streaming, and the station’s app.

Boston radio vet and Rock 92.9 PD Adam 12 will be heard weekdays from 11 am to 4 pm and Rob “Hardy’ Poole from 4 pm to 7 pm.

Adam 12 put the exclamation point on it, posting, “Listen after “Dave & Chuck the Freak” on Tuesday, September 3, as I say goodbye to ROCK 92.9, much like I did at WFNX in 2012 and WBCN in 2009. Third time’s a charm!”

Stream the station here.

Steve Beuerlein Named New Dallas Cowboys National Radio Analyst By Compass Media Networks

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Compass Media Networks has announced Steve Beuerlein will be the new Dallas Cowboys national radio color analyst. Beuerlein will join play-by-play broadcaster Kevin Ray who is returning for his twelfth season. WFAN’s Jerry Recco is also returning as studio host. Beuerlein replaces Danny White who had been the radio analyst since 2011.

“I am extremely excited that Compass Media Networks has extended me the opportunity to partner with Kevin Ray as part of the Dallas Cowboys national radio broadcast team for the 2024 season,” Beuerlein said in a release. “Fans know that the Cowboys are one of the most recognized and respected properties in all of professional sports and I am honored and grateful for this opportunity.”

“I take great pride in being part of our Compass Media Networks Dallas Cowboys broadcast as I enter my 12th year on the call,” said Kevn Ray. “I’m thrilled to have Steve Beuerlein join me in the booth this season. He brings a level of preparedness, energy and insight that I’m certain Cowboys fans across our network will be tuning in for every week.”

Robert Blum, General Manager/Vice President, Sports at Compass Media Networks added, “We are thrilled to celebrate our 14 year partnership with the Dallas Cowboys by welcoming Steve into the broadcast booth along with Kevin Ray and Jerry Recco. I know that they are in great hands with our experienced producer, Danny Miles and savvy veteran engineering team of David Friedman and Mike Pirtle. Kick off in Cleveland cannot come soon enough!”

Beuerlein, who played for Lou Holtz at Notre Dame and started over 100 NFL games, has been calling football games for Compass Media since 2019.

Bloomberg Radio Moving to 92.9 FM in Boston After New Deal with Beasley Media Group

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Beasley Media Group has announced a deal with Bloomberg Radio that will see the radio network move its programming to the 92.9 FM signal currently utilized by Rock 92.9.

Beginning on Tuesday, September 3rd at Noon, Bloomberg Radio will be heard on the station, expanding its reach in the Boston market.

“This expansion of our partnership with Beasley Media Group will allow us to exponentially expand Bloomberg Radio’s reach in Boston,” said Bloomberg Audio Head Anthony Mancini. “Moving to a full market FM frequency will give us the bandwidth we need to have an increased presence in the region, and the capacity to bring even more listeners Bloomberg’s in-depth coverage of the financial markets and beyond.”

“We’re excited to expand our great partnership with a global news and business leader of Bloomberg’s magnitude,” added Beasley Media Regional Vice President Mary Menna. “This unique programming underscores the company’s commitment to providing our listeners with the very best content and compliments our other Boston brands: 98.5 The Sports Hub, HOT 96.9, WROR 105.7, and Country 102.5.”

The Beasley Media Group-owned WBOS (92.9 FM) is a Class B, 18,500-watt signal. Currently, Bloomberg Radio is heard on WRCA-AM, a Class B signal with 25,000 watts of daytime power and 17,000 watts at night. Its FM translator is heard on 106.1 FM with 96 watts.

Ryan Leaf: Kirk Herbsteit, Pat McAfee ‘Most Overly Sensitive People I’ve Ever Met’

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Former NFL QB Ryan Leaf exited ESPN after clashing with Kirk Herbstreit and Pat McAfee last fall. He had harsh criticisms for the two College GameDay hosts.

While appearing on OutKick’s Hot Mic with Jonathan Hutton and Chad Withrow, Leaf was asked what led to him leaving ESPN. He revealed that a quip made about the Washington State/Oregon State football game last year on GameDay led him to push back against the jokes about the two schools being left behind by the demise of the Pac-12. He harshly criticized the panelists of the show for their jokes, which he said ultimately led to the severing of his relationship with the Worldwide Leader.

“When I got them for making it a big joke, right? Herbstreit and McAfee are the most overly sensitive people I’ve ever met,” Leaf told Hutton and Withrow. “For guys who live in this high platform, they get criticized all the time, but oh my God, are they overly sensitive, narcissist.”

Ryan Leaf added that, despite his clash with Pat McAfee and Kirk Herbstreit, he was less than pleased with the way he was let go from ESPN — where he had worked since 2019 — noting that he believed he deserved to be told by the executives making the decision.

“In my situation, the coordinating producer — who I had an incredible relationship with — said, ‘Hey, I think we’re going to pull you off games the rest of the season.’ And I’m like ‘You told me week in and week out, I’m your number one guy.’ The coordinated producer calls me and I said, ‘Well, you’re not making this decision. Who’s making this decision?’ He said, ‘Well, someone above my pay grade.’ And I said, ‘Well, you need to have someone above your pay grade call me.’

“So they did,” said Leaf. “And by that time I had confirmed with people on why it happened. So when I got them on the phone, I was just like, ‘Yeah, I think this is about right. I think you and I, we don’t have shared values, and so I think this is probably the proper decision. I get it, I get it. You got $85 million people scaring you. You got to fall in line.’ And so I understand that, on my end of things, it still sucks.”

Ryan Leaf then shared that both Kirk Herbstreit and Pat McAfee attempted to claim they had nothing to do with his exit from ESPN.