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Steve Stone Celebrates 40th Anniversary As MLB Broadcaster

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Steve Stone joined Mully and Haugh Tuesday morning on 670 The Score in Chicago to reflect back on his broadcasting career. June 7 marked forty years in the booth for the former pitcher.

“As people usually say when they get to any point later in their life, as a seasoned citizen they say it really went by quickly,” Stone said. “It usually does. You can look back and look at the ground you covered, but realistically, it was in the blink of an eye.”

On June 2, 1982, Stone retired after eleven Major League seasons. Five days later, his broadcasting career began on ABC’s Monday Night Baseball working with Al Michaels and Bob Ueker. He joined the Cubs’ television booth the following season, where he stayed until 2004. Since 2005, he has been part of the Chicago White Sox broadcast crew.

That means Steve Stone has worked with a number of different broadcasters. He told Mully and Haugh that he had to learn to adjust to each new partner. They were all coming in looking to perform their best and it was up to him to keep up.

“Each and every one of these guys who is calling Major League Baseball on a play-by-play basis, they have a lot of pride in what they do and they try to bring it each and every day. Knowing that and understanding that, I have to give them some room just like they have to give me some room.”

Mike Mulligan asked Stone what made him so good as a broadcaster. Steve Stone said he had the kind of playing career that made it possible to offer many different types of insight.

“When you talk about guys that put on a headset that were really great in the game, or were a really great player in the game, I’m not sure they can relate to the tougher aspects of the game,” Stone answered. “Because I was the eleventh pitcher on an eleven-man staff at times, I was the number one pitcher on an eleven-man staff at times, I saw each and every aspect of the game. I realize what it was like to not have a job and try to win one in spring training or to go into the bullpen and try to work your way back into the rotation as well as one of those guys you depend on every fifth game to give you that stopper role-type feeling.”

Hawk Harrelson retired as the play-by-play voice of the Chicago White Sox in 2019. Since then, Steve Stone has been partnered with Jason Benetti calling games on NBC Sports Chicago.

NBA Finals Ratings Continue To Disappoint For Game 2

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The hot streak the NBA had been on during the playoffs appears to be over. Two games in and the NBA Finals are failing to keep pace with the ratings growth we saw in earlier rounds.

Just like with Game 1, the ratings for Game 2 topped the last two seasons when the Finals were not played on their regular schedule. Outside of those games though, it was the lowest-rated NBA Finals Game 2 since 2007.

Game 2 started at 8 pm on Sunday. That is an hour earlier than Game 1 on Thursday. It raised viewership from Game 1, but did not put the Finals on pace with earlier success in the playoffs.

The telecast averaged a 6.4 rating and 11.91 million viewers.

Before the NBA Finals began, there was a lot of optimism. The national appeal and major market home fanbases for both the Golden State Warriors and Boston Celtics had both the league and ABC executives foaming at the mouth.

Unfortunately, the games have largely failed to deliver. Game 2 was an absolute blowout. While Game 2 had its moments, it was a game of runs and big leads. That makes it easy for casual fans to give up early.

Game 3 will see another later tip. The two teams face off in Boston on Wednesday with the series tied at one game a piece.

Netflix Finally Ready To Bid On Live Sports With Formula 1

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Netflix helped create the instrument fueling the popularity of Formula 1 racing in the United States. It only makes sense that the company would want to make a move to become the sport’s exclusive media rights partner.

Just two months ago, Ted Sarandos, one of the company’s co-CEOs, said he didn’t see live sports as a priority for Netflix or as a path to significant profit.

Now it seems that view has changed. Business Insider reports that Netflix will join Disney, Amazon and NBCUniversal in a bidding war for the racing circuit’s US television rights.

Disney would very much like to keep the rights and keep races on ESPN. The company submitted an initial bid of $70 million per year. That is about $30 million per year less than what F1 owner Liberty Media thinks they are worth.

Netflix’s hit documentary series F1: Drive to Survive has been a key factor in creating new fans for the sport. That is why a marriage between the two makes so much sense. Netflix’s sudden interest may also have something to do with the streaming service beginning to lose subscribers.

That subscriber migration isn’t something that seems to concern Liberty Media CEO Greg Maffei.

“It is interesting how the world fragmented with cable households, and how many there are compared to Netflix households and [Amazon] Prime households,” Business Insider quoted him as saying before the Miami Grand Prix. “The idea that the broadest audience is on cable — that’s becoming a lot less clear.”

What will be very interesting is Netflix’s path forward in sports if it does win the F1 rights. Would something like Drive to Survive shape the company’s entire sports strategy? Would Netflix create documentary shoulder content for every league partner?

There is also the question of how Netflix will handle advertising. The idea of airing commercials has been a part of what has turned the company off from live sports in the past. Would the content team be tasked to come up with a revolutionary new way of integrating advertising into games in order for the company to pull the trigger?

Jason DeRusha Joins WCCO as Afternoon Show Host

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Minnesota Emmy award-winning news anchor Jason DeRusha has been hired to host an afternoon show on WCCO News Talk 830. The move is the latest in a series of changes designed to revamp WCCO’s local lineup. Last year, the station hired Vineeta Sawkar to host the morning show.

A statement released by parent company Audacy and obtained by Barrett News Media said WCCO news anchor Adam Carter will be promoted to co-host a new show alongside Jordana Green, airing from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. CT. 

Green’s longtime co-host, Paul Douglas, will set aside daily hosting duties to become WCCO Radio’s Chief Meteorologist. Douglas will appear on-air throughout the day and ensure the station remains Minnesota’s most trusted source for severe weather updates. Douglas became Minnesota’s first certified broadcast meteorologist in 2005.

Brad Lane, Brand Manager, 830 WCCO, said DeRusha has an uncanny ability to engage and connect with everyone he talks to. 

“Whether he’s delivering breaking news, telling a family story, or giving a restaurant recommendation, people trust him like a friend, and that’s exactly what the legacy and future of 830 WCCO is all about,” Lane added.

DeRusha has been nominated for more than 20 Regional Emmy Awards, and he’s won Regional Emmys for anchoring “WCCO This Morning” for breaking news coverage. 

“I can’t wait to bring my love for Minnesota and Western Wisconsin, as well as my two decades of curiosity about our neighbors and our news, to 830 WCCO,” DeRusha said.

DeRusha will be heard on weekdays from 3:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. CT, beginning June 27.

Randy Scott and Gary Striewski Are Poised to Take SportsCenter Into the Future

“This is SportsCenter.” Those iconic words have been spoken over ESPN’s multiple platforms of dissemination since 1979, indicative of the start of an hour of game highlights, expert analysis, memorable in-studio moments, and for some, the realization of a career goal. Over the years, SportsCenter has been anchored by its share of notorious personalities, including Scott Van Pelt, Craig Kilborn, Dan Patrick and Stuart Scott, all of whom infused or continue to infuse the program with their nuances.

Today, the format of the program has somewhat changed, concurrent with the dynamic state of today’s media landscape and the increased accessibility fans have to the sports teams and leagues they follow – some doing so more fastidiously than others.

The purpose of SportsCenter as a show on ESPN is not only to serve as a source of information, but also as a place for viewers to be entertained. As a result, the chemistry between the hosts of each individual edition of SportsCenter is something that has to be fostered in order to keep fans coming back for the hosts per se. Integrating other aspects of pop culture, such as movies, music or current events, into the sports news cycle and interspersing it other dialogue when applicable, renders the program compelling and intriguing for viewers to watch on a daily basis. More than 60,000 episodes later, the institution continues to be a backbone of ESPN’s studio programming.

Randy Scott and Gary Striewski followed a similar path that took their careers to ESPN in Bristol, Connecticut. They rose through the broadcasting ranks with an unwavering persistence and determination to succeed. Both anchors grew up in military households and watched SportsCenter from the time they were young, and recognize it as part of the reason they wanted to become broadcasters. In fact, Striewski wrote in his eighth grade yearbook that he would be a SportsCenter anchor at ESPN when he grew up. To get there though, he worked as a personal banker at a credit union while attaining his undergraduate degree in journalism at the Metropolitan State College of Denver. After his graduation, he took a 50% pay cut and relocated to Cheyenne, Wyoming to begin his career as sports director for KGWN. He knew that starting in a smaller marketplace would ultimately prove to be beneficial when looking back at his career trajectory, taking the advice he overheard from a reporter while he was interning at FOX.

“He was chewing the fat with the sports director,” Striewski recalled of the FOX reporter, “and he was like, ‘You’re going to suck in your first job. Go suck in front of 50,000 people in Cheyenne, Wyoming, as opposed to 500,000 people in Des Moines, [Iowa] or something like that’ because you’re not going to be good. No matter how good you think you are, you’re going to suck. Get that ‘suck’ out of the way in front of the least amount of people as possible – that way when you’re ready to make that jump, you’re good or you suck less.”

Striewski’s co-host Randy Scott grew up without cable and watched SportsCenter at the homes of his friends. He coerced them to watch episodes they had already viewed because of his interest and enthusiasm for the program. After he graduated Northwestern University a semester early with a degree in journalism, he struggled to find a job until he received an offer from KSWO-TV in Lawton, Oklahoma. Before accepting that job offer though, Scott made his debut appearance on ESPN as a contestant on the show Dream Job, a reality program with a grand prize of landing a role as a SportsCenter anchor on the network. After placing in the round of 30, Scott was unable to advance to make the top 10. Three days later he had moved from his home in Virginia to take the job offer in Oklahoma.

“This business is designed to pay you nothing and weed out people who aren’t really committed to it,” Scott said. “One of those commitments has to be starting in the middle of nowhere and getting experience.”

After working within smaller markets in Lawton and Toccoa, Georgia, Scott was hired at NESN in Boston in 2010. He served as a sports anchor and reporter at a place he would stay for nearly three years before joining ESPN in 2012. One year later, Striewski arrived at NESN following stints in Cheyenne and Houston and eventually worked as a Major League Baseball sideline reporter for the Boston Red Sox. During his time in “Beantown,” several of his co-workers asked if he had ever worked with Scott – now his current partner at ESPN – sensing the two would form a good duo on the air.

“A lot of the people that [I] worked with were like, ‘[Have] you ever [worked] with Randy? You guys are the same person,’” Striewski recalled. “I’m like, ‘I keep hearing that. Who’s this Randy guy?’ Randy legitimately has been everywhere that I end up – just a couple of years prior to me – and then over the last couple of months, we met at the SportsCenter desk.”

As anchors for SportsCenter A.M. on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays, both Scott and Striewski have found a way to blend the traditional facets of the program with modern means of consumption, including through streaming and social media platforms. They draw inspiration from those pioneers that came before them on SportsCenter while also staying true to their own personalities and the rapport they have cultivated since working together on the show.

“I don’t think you can get to this point at this time without having some real fingerprints from other people that you’ve watched,” Scott said. “It’s hard because on Twitter you’ll get people who are like, ‘Stop trying to be fill in the blank.’ Gary and I laugh, and I want to say that [Scott] Van Pelt and Neil Everett were the first guys I remember laughing and working together. I think we’ve probably cribbed different style things from so many different people.”

Throughout the show, there are several opportunities in which Scott and Striewski are able to divulge their personas; however, through the use of non-linear platforms of distribution, they can create content regardless of it appearing on the television program to engage with viewers. In this way, they have been able to draw positive feedback and differentiated themselves from the other editions of the show with other anchoring pairs on ESPN.

“I think now you can lament the fact that things are digital and that things are streamlined – there are people who have said, ‘Oh, you’re just a piece of the ESPN machine.’ Or you can put your spin on it; put your style on it,” explained Scott. “Right now there is an opportunity to clip that off and put it out in channels where there are sports fans that maybe didn’t watch the actual TV broadcast, but they still consume ESPN.”

One of those channels of distribution is social media – specifically Snapchat, which is approaching a daily active user figure of 400 million with a continuing upward trajectory. Striewski serves as the host of the Snapchat edition of SportsCenter, which garners approximately 2 million viewers per day. Out of those 2 million viewers, 1.6 million of them (80%) were unaware of the show’s origination and primary locale on linear television, making that faction of users appear resplendent in terms of a target psychographic to the next generation of content creators and on-air personalities in sports media.

“If we can take that 1.6 million, or even a fraction of that, and bring them over to TV by doing something cool; doing something memorable,” said Striewski. “It’s all about basically funneling or trying to bring over some of those digital viewers and letting them know this linear thing is still here and we’re taking elements from it.”

Streaming and on-demand viewing options are gradually taking their share in the strategy and means of distribution for various media outlets, whether or not they are related to sports. The altered state of media consumption from linear to nonlinear programming through different platforms of dissemination is undoubtedly in the midst of taking form; however, Striewski is not sure that will last based on his own view of consumer behavior.

“I think everything is cyclical,” explained Striewski. “Everybody started becoming cable-cutters, and then streaming happened and now everybody has a million different streaming accounts and are like, ‘Wait a minute – I’m paying five times more for all of these different streaming platforms than I was just doing cable. Hold on, let me just get cable again.’ It doesn’t seem like that’s how the numbers are trending, but like I said, I think everything is cyclical.”

A central part of what has differentiated SportsCenter over the years is the team that puts together the program, whether it be in the specializations of research, graphic design, audio or live production. As it continues its run on the air since the launch of ESPN in September 1979, the broadcast has continued to thrive as the flagship program not only because of the highlights and entertainment, but also due to its inherent production value and esoteric information it provides to its audience.

“The team that actually puts SportsCenter on the air [are] the best-of-the-best,” Striewski said. “They will come up with the most ridiculous stats and nuggets of information that you have to sift through…. We still do that better than anybody else who does it, and I don’t think there’s a close second to sort of pump the chest of the people who work behind-the-scenes whose faces you may not know but whose information and whose knowledge and whose passion comes through in situations like that.”

Over the years, the look and feel of SportsCenter has, at the core, remained consistent; nonetheless, the program has been able to adapt to widespread changes in media. By being cognizant of the past while also keeping an eye towards the future, ESPN has sought to remain ahead of the pack when it comes to innovation to ensure the program remains relevant in the digital age. While the content of the show and means of distribution certainly have an impact on viewership numbers, the people sitting at the desk delivering the information to the audience en masse is the driving force of what makes each episode of SportsCenter unique, and in some instances, appointment television.

“I will plead ignorance to the macro 10,000-foot view of a lot of the challenges that ESPN is not unique in facing right now,” said Scott. “…For us in what we do for the SportsCenter we are lucky enough to sort of have proprietary ownership of, I think people still want to see how we do highlights. We can sort of be this catch-all; this funnel where it’s not just the highlight – it’s the sound that goes with the highlight; it’s the stat that goes with the highlight.”

The commodification and subsequent ability to rapidly engage with user-generated content has genuinely rendered people with a camera and internet connection as cultivators of and/or contributors to stories. Having an active connection to the audience is something Scott and Striewski have and will continue to prioritize as they continue hosting SportsCenter together as they attempt to implement their own content, which is often shared through social media or other mediated communication platforms, into the show when appropriate.

“There’s going to be a continued blurred line between linear cable, social media and user-generated content,” said Scott. “…I feel like it’s almost like a community view of generating content where… just as we need to be able to meet the consumers… where they’re at, we have to also be open to a video getting traction online [that] is sports related.”

The same people who serve as potential content creators also serve as a source of feedback for Scott, Striewski and the entire SportsCenter team at ESPN. As with most other shows, there are people who enjoy the programming and those who loathe it, and some of those viewers choose to opine those views in public communication forums. In an effort to better engage with their audience and implement them within the broadcast, the possibility of breaking down the metaphorical ‘third wall’ that exists between the studio and screen – deviating from the accepted modus operandi – is something being considered for future shows.

“We’re actually toying with the idea of using [the] tweets [from] people who are watching it; interacting with the show; getting the references or not getting the references… [and] going to break with that,” said Striewski. “We’re toying with those ideas because we get a lot of that stuff daily… and I think it is a good thing that we can have real-time feedback.”

For nearly 43 years, SportsCenter has been a mainstay at ESPN as a place where all sports are covered and highlighted, whether it be at the collegiate or professional level. According to both Scott and Striewski, an auspicious future lies ahead for SportsCenter, and neither sees it departing ESPN’s slate of programming any time soon.

“I don’t think SportsCenter is ever going away – it’s ‘Fourth of July and Apple Pie’ as far as I’m concerned – you just have to figure out how to get it to the consumers,” said Striewski. “The consumers aren’t going away; people want to consume content. You just have to go meet them where they’re at.”

For the duo of Scott and Striewski though, it seeks to continue to distinguish itself among the other editions of SportsCenter by explicating the ongoing trends in media consumption and evolution while imbuing their own personalities in the show in the process. They hope that following this strategy will help their edition of the show experience continued, sustained growth alongside the rest of the programming across the network.

“Each individual SportsCenter will continue to find a way to differentiate itself, to stand out and will take risks and chances to try to accomplish that while also staying true to what SportsCenter has been, and what has worked and what continues to work,” said Scott. “[That is] being right, being as first as possible… being informative and being entertaining. As long as you stick to those pillars and take chances on top of that, I think that’s where it’s going.”

WBAL NewsRadio, Navy Football Agree to Multi-Year Extension

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Navy Football will continue to be heard on its longtime flagship station WBAL NewsRadio 1090 AM / 101.5 FM. On Monday, the two sides announced a multi-year extension which includes lengthy pregame and postgame shows and other content focused exclusively on The Midshipmen. 

In a release, Naval Academy Athletic Director Chet Gladchuk discussed the program’s long history with WBAL and the importance of bringing familiar voices back to the fans.

“Our long-standing relationship with true broadcast professionals is much appreciated by our alumni, fans, coaches, and Midshipmen,” he said. “These are exciting times for Navy Football and Navy Athletics. It will be great to continue to hear about it and follow the action on WBAL for years to come.” 

The Voice of the Midshipmen Pete Medhurst will return for another season alongside analyst Joe Miller, sideline reporter Keith Mills, executive producer Johnny Goldsmith, and studio host Scott Wykoff. 

“We are thrilled to continue to bring Navy Football to our listeners every Saturday during the fall, including the time-honored tradition of the Army-Navy game,” said Dan Joerres, President & General Manager for WBAL NewsRadio, 98 ROCK and WBAL-TV. “It’s truly an honor to partner with such a prestigious institution.”

The 2022 Navy Football season kicks off against the University of Delaware Saturday, September 3, at Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium.

Steve Scully to Host a New Show on SiriusXM

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Broadcast journalist Steve Scully will host a new show on SiriusXM’s POTUS channel called “The Briefing with Steve Scully.” 

Scully joined CSPAN in 1990 as a political editor and White House producer. He currently manages several field producers covering the White House. He has also moderated several CSPAN events. 

“I am thrilled to join the SiriusXM P.O.T.U.S. family to share my enthusiasm for politics and public policy with a very smart audience,” Scully told Talkers. “I look forward not only to focusing on the developing stories of the day but also to giving listeners a deeper context to complex issues.”

According to his bio, Scully served nine years on the Executive Board of the White House Correspondents’ Association and was elected by his peers to serve as president from 2006 to 2007. 

“From breaking Supreme Court rulings to debates in Congress and briefings from The White House, the program will consider all sides and every perspective, helping listeners stay on top of what’s happening within the Beltway and beyond,” added Scully. 

Derek Ruscin Returns to ESPN Arkansas After Insulting Player

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ESPN Arkansas’ afternoon host, Derek Ruscin, has returned to air after a leave of absence that was preceded by calling a player a local baseball player a “loser,” a “disgrace,” and “stupid ass.”

Ruscin began a segment apologizing by acknowledging the mistakes he made.

“Well, I really know how to screw up, don’t I? Like historic, all-time screwups, right? That was a bad one.”

The “bad one” Ruscin referred to was a rant aimed at Arkansas baseball player Michael Turner.

“I want to tell Michael Turner: I’m sorry for the words I used about him on this program ten days ago. I’m sorry. I had an opinion and it went way over the line. I was wrong. I am sorry about that.”

Ruscin wasn’t done accepting the blame. “I take full responsibility for all of this. This is all my fault. That’s been one of the difficult things about this is that there is no one else to pass the buck off here to. This is all my fault.”

The host then added his comments weren’t just too much, but they were factually incorrect.

“What I said was really bad, but it was also one of the worst sports takes that you will ever hear. Lost in all of that bluster, name calling – which was wrong – buried in there was a terrible sports take. None of the things I said about Michael Turner are true. You can’t get where he gets and be the things I said. Doesn’t happen. They’re not just giving out starting jobs at a SEC school in baseball, especially at this one, one of the top programs in the league. I was wrong twice on this situation.”

“I have been punished for this,” Ruscin would explain. “I was publicly reprimanded by this company. My reputation online is somewhere between the toilet and that place under the portable toilet. This has hurt. A lot. I have been doing this 14 years. Thousands of hours of shows. I’ve never done anything like that before and I’m never going to do anything like that again. All I can do is take responsibility, learn from this and move forward. That’s what I’m going to do.”

A.J. Hawk: Lynch Turned Down Amazon Because He Still Thinks Like a Player

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John Lynch turned down Amazon and a massive payday to stay with the San Francisco 49ers. The reason he gave did not shock A.J. Hawk of The Pat McAfee Show.

Hawk and McAfee brought up the reporting from from David Lombardi of The Athletic. Lynch was offered around $15 million annually to do the games. It’s not a bad deal. The San Francisco 49ers General Manager couldn’t do it.

Lynch, “But I looked at myself and I said, ‘How do I sit up here and address these guys and talk about having the fortitude to fight through the pain of losing a game like this and then turn around and bolt on them?’ “I couldn’t do it.”

That reasoning was one Hawk understood, from a mentality standpoint.

“If there’s ever a room that would understand John Lynch leaving and taking $15 million a year, guaranteed, it’s an NFL locker room,” Hawk said but added, “I think it is pretty awesome that he’s doing it. He’s a Hall of Fame player. An unbelievable stud player and he probably still thinks a lot like a player. He wants to see it thru (San Francisco). He’s done the TV thing. He was doing games with FOX before. He would be unsatisfied if he didn’t get at least one ring as a GM.”

Pat McAfee also applauded the uniqueness of Lynch staying. “This is because he’s a former player. This is because of how great he was in the locker room. How well liked he is and how well respected he is amongst his peers. I like that. I respected that. That is a fascinating story about John Lynch being a human.”

Amazon would move on and did hire Kirk Herbstreit to partner with Al Michaels for their Thursday Night Football package.

New ESPN Analyst CJ McCollum Seeks Balance In Player Criticism

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The current relationship between players and media members is complicated. Athletes are asked more questions from more outlets that sometimes carry varying agendas. We’ve seen it play out poorly in San Francisco recently when a media member got into a feud with Javon Kinlaw of the 49ers. In Arkansas, a player’s answer to a question prompted a thorny, personal tirade from a local radio host. Now CJ McCollum steps into the shoes of the media at a time that athletes have never been more wary of those covering them.

ESPN’s newest NBA analyst is in an interesting position. He is a current player (New Orleans Pelicans) and President of the National Basketball Players Association. He’s entering a world where the distrust between players and the media seems to be fraying. How will McCollum balance himself in those muddy waters?

McCollum participated in a media conference call and was asked about athletes pushing back on criticism by the media and when it goes further than an honest critique.

“… in terms of balancing, as you referenced shitting on players versus just being more quite frank in terms of evaluation, I think as a player, I understand it’s a gift and a curse to play this sport. It’s a gift because it’s our dream job, we get paid handsomely, we’re able to take care of our families, we’re able to do something a lot of us have done our entire lives. The sacrifices that come with it, the time; obviously you’ve got to be headstrong.

There’s a lot of things you have to go through that the normal world doesn’t in terms of not just scrutiny, but people can speak on your families. We’ve seen the Chris Paul situation. Fans during games. There’s a lot of things that are getting out of hand because of social media, so you have to balance that.”

McCollum understands media’s priority to generate interest and warns that the ways it is accomplished can be a treacherous path to maintaining good relationships between player/media.

“The headlines are clickbait, oftentimes not sharing the rest of the quote. Things of that nature I think can lead to trouble in paradise for us as athletes and for the networks as well. I don’t mind being critical of players at times because I think it’s necessary. I think there’s a way in which you can talk about it that’s more so you doing your job as opposed to attacking players. Like no one plays poorly on purpose. Tatum didn’t shoot 3 for 17 on purpose, right?”

McCollum speaks from some experience. He was a journalism major at Lehigh University before he mesmerized the globe in the NBA.

“I think as a player who has a background in journalism, I understand the importance of players having their own voice, but also understand the importance of being able to share someone’s message the right way, and I think sometimes messages are often misconstrued.”

CJ McCollum as an analyst will be a fascinating one to watch. He will contribute to NBA CountdownNBA TodaySportsCenterGet Up and First Take. He will also be a part of game analysis for ESPN’s coverage of NBA Summer League. And yes, he is developing a podcast with ESPN as well.