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BetQL Network Bringing ‘You Better You Bet’ to NBC Sports FAST Channel in New Content Partnership

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Audacy has announced that it is bringing the BetQL Network program You Better You Bet to the NBC Sports free ad-supported streaming television (FAST) channel starting on Tuesday. Through a content partnership with NBC Sports, the top-rated sports betting live show and podcast in the United States featuring co-hosts Nick Kostos and Femi Abebefe will now be available in the video format. The show will air on weekdays from 6 to 7 p.m. EST through this vertical, which is available through Peacock and all major distributors of FAST channels.

“You Better You Bet is already the most-listened-to sports betting program in America, and this partnership with NBC Sports marks a significant step in enhancing the show’s multi-platform presence,” Mitch Rosen, vice president of BetQL Network, said in a statement. “By leveraging the reach of NBC Sports and Peacock, we’re complementing our already strong audio footprint and creating new opportunities to deliver premier sports betting content and wagertainment nationwide on the widely available NBC Sports FAST channel.”

In an internal memo sent to staff obtained by Barrett Media, Rosen referred to the deal as a “groundbreaking partnership for us in terms of Video Distribution.” Furthermore, he thanked the team at Audacy, along with Kostos, who is an original creator of the network. The company also looks forward to “great news ahead in 2025” as the network continues its growth spanning various platforms.

The show covers marquee matchups, line movements and futures markets, providing listeners with updates in real time surrounding various aspects of sports betting. Some of these aspects of the industry include backdoor covers, bad beats and the emotions that are tied to sports betting. The show is part of the BetQL Network, which distributes about 100 hours of original weekly content to 90 stations around the country and various digital platforms. Furthermore, BetQL Network is also available through the Audacy mobile app and website, the network internet homepage and more than 10,000 home and auto-connected devices.

“We’re excited to partner with Audacy and add You Better You Bet to our expanding NBC Sports FAST Channel portfolio,” Damon Phillips, senior vice president of NBC Sports Digital and Emerging Business, said in a statement, “providing viewers with engaging sports betting entertainment and insight every weekday.”

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The Daily Wire CEO Jeremy Boreing: We’re Not ‘Closed Off’ to an Acquisition Offer From Fox

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Fox has been a dominant player in the cable news space for decades. It is now reportedly interested in expanding into the podcast realm, which could include a potential purchase of The Daily Wire.

A report from Semafor says that Fox Corp. is interested in an audio expansion and has considered kicking the tires on acquiring a number of different podcast brands.

Included in the company’s potential podcast purchases is The Daily Wire, which produces shows hosted by Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles, and Matt Walsh, among others. Additionally, Red Seat Ventures — which is home to several former Fox News hosts like Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, and Eric Bolling — could be a target, as could podcast network Audioboom.

When broached on the subject of a potential acquisition by Fox, The Daily Wire co-CEO Jeremy Boreing said the company isn’t actively seeking a sale, but wouldn’t be completely opposed to one, either.

“We’re not closed off to an offer,” he told Axios. “It’s easy to imagine a strategic partnership with Fox or someone like Fox, that could be mutually beneficial. I think that we complement Fox and don’t compete with Fox.”

Fox isn’t a stranger to the podcast space. Several shows originate from the news, business, and sports brands, as well as OutKick, which it purchased in 2021.

Meanwhile, The Daily Wire was valued at more than $1 billion during a round of fundraising in 2023, with the company showing no signs of slowing its revenue growth in 2024.

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FOX Averages 560,000 Viewers for Iowa-Tennessee Women’s College Basketball Matchup After MLS Cup Decline

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Earlier in the month, FOX Sports presented several key matchups across its portfolio of rights for soccer and women’s basketball, taking place amid a packed day of sports coverage on broadcast networks. The MLS Cup between the LA Galaxy and New York Red Bulls averaged 468,000 viewers on FOX and FOX Deportes, which is down 47% from the combined linear audience from last season. This matchup aired on Saturday, Dec. 7 at 4 p.m. EST amid the media rights deal between Major League Soccer and FOX Corporation, which recently completed its second of four years. The English-language telecast on FOX collected an average of 427,000 viewers, down 48% year-over-year, while the Spanish-language telecast on FOX Deportes averaged 41,000 viewers, a 45% year-over-year decline.

The championship matchup took place alongside championship weekend in college football, something that did not occur last season. At that time, the only matchup that was airing was the annual Army-Navy game, which started one hour earlier and amassed 7.2 million viewers on CBS. This year’s MLS Cup game was also available to watch using the MLS Season Pass streaming platform through Apple TV+, which does not collect ratings through Nielsen Media Research. Nielsen estimated through its Streaming Platform Ratings that the game averaged 287,000 viewers on the OTT streaming service. The company recently completed its second season under a 10-year media rights deal reportedly worth $2.5 billion.

Just after the MLS Cup game, FOX presented a women’s basketball doubleheader from Barclays Center in Brooklyn, N.Y. The FOX Sports division worked in tandem with Shark Beauty for the inaugural Women’s Championship Classic with two marquee matchups with teams from conferences including the Big Ten, SEC, Big East and ACC. The opening matchup between Iowa and Tennessee came down to the wire and averaged 560,000 viewers on the broadcast network. This matchup ran over its allotted time, causing the start of the second game to begin at 9:45 p.m. EST.

The UConn Huskies, led by head coach Geno Auriemma with stars Paige Bueckers and Azzi Fudd, accrued a large lead on the Louisville Cardinals by halftime. Ratings data divulges that the matchup averaged 466,000 viewers, closing out the night of competition. Tim Brando and Sarah Kustok were on the call for the doubleheader action, and both games finished above the company’s average of 436,000 viewers for women’s college basketball games last season. FOX aired the most-watched men’s and women’s regular-season college basketball matchups on any network during the 2023-24 schedule.

The media conglomerate has rights deals with several NCAA conferences, including the Big Ten, Big 12, Mountain West and Big East. The Big East Conference agreed to a new six-year television deal that maintains FOX Sports as its lead partner and also adds NBC Sports and TNT Sports to present games. FOX recently launched its College Basketball Friday property that includes 13 key matchups throughout the year, concluding with the Big East Men’s semifinal games on Friday, March 14.

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Adam Schefter, Doug Gottlieb Exchange Words on X

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On Monday afternoon, ESPN senior NFL insider Adam Schefter reported college football news, divulging that Sacramento State is in discussions to hire four-time Pro Bowl quarterback Michael Vick as its new head coach. Vick, who currently serves as an analyst on FOX NFL Kickoff and has worked with FOX Sports since 2017, would reportedly be joining the program as it plans to move up to the Football Bowl Subdivision. The university is building a new football stadium and is said to have more than $50 million in funding for name, image and likeness (NIL), something that could potentially assist in recruiting.

The monetary figure caused several reporters to raise objections, including Stewart Mandel, the editor-in-chief for college football coverage at The Athletic. Mandel shared on X that the institution “does not have anything close to $50 million” in NIL money, adding that it would be two-and-a-half times more than the Ohio State roster. Mandel also stated that the $50 million figure likely referenced fundraising commitments over the next decade coming from a group that hopes to align the team with a potential move to the Pac-12.

Later in the day, Joe Davidson of The Sacramento Bee stated that several athletic department officials disputed Schefter’s reporting. Schefter published a quote from Sacramento State president Luke Wood where he stated that Vick has expressed interest in the head coaching job and that he has met with him.

Doug Gottlieb, afternoon host on FOX Sports Radio and head men’s basketball coach at the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay, replied to Schefter by articulating to edit what agents tell him. Gottlieb also conveyed that there is no chance the school has $50 million in NIL money. Schefter replied by claiming that the SAC-12 had already announced it had reached an initial goal of raising $50 million in NIL funds. This would presumably augment the potential to receive an invitation and join either the Pac-12 or Mountain West conferences. Sacramento State has been a member of the Big Sky Conference since 1993.

In a subsequent post, Schefter took a screenshot of the Horizon League men’s basketball standings and pointed out that Gottlieb’s team was in last place and on a seven-game losing streak. Within his post on X, he questioned what was taking place and suggested to Gottlieb that he spend “[l]ess time on social media and more time in the gym.”

While Gottlieb did not reply directly to Schefter’s second post, he reposted a tweet from Kevin Van Valkenburg, editorial director of No Laying Up, that disputed the $50 million in NIL money. Van Valkenburg, formerly a senior writer at ESPN The Magazine and ESPN.com, claimed that he was friends with the former head coach at Sacramento State and disclosed that “they do not even have $1 million in NIL money, much less $50 million. A report from David Teel and Michael Sauls of The Virginian-Pilot on Monday stated that Vick has interviewed for the head coaching job at Norfolk State University and expects a resolution “soon.”

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What Santa Should Put In Radio’s Stockings For 2025

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“I don’t know what to say except it’s Christmas and we’re all in misery”Ellen Griswold.

The number of hits radio took this year alone is cause for concern. Technology offers broadcasters exponentially more remote options than ever. Every one of our clients – not including syndication – has shows developed and delivered out of their home market. 

Is it – better? 

Stopping to catch our collective breath, the good news is that radio still remains the #1 out-of-home audio preference to on-demand OR streaming audio. By more than – double. Even among younger listeners. And radio remains the #1 source for music discovery for those over 35 years old.

The holiday season steamrolls forward. It’s the perfect time to be thankful for what we have as an industry. Beyond the usual tools of the trade, these wishes speak to the heart of what makes radio magical. Here’s to wishing inspired programming births fresh innovation while evolving creatives bring us new ways to develop attractive brands in the next seasons!

Santa, here’s a short list that I hope will find its way into the stockings of radio stations everywhere.

Creative Music Curators

Here’s to brave souls who take risks with their Music Matrix. Those who still have a child-like passion for music discovery.

In August, we outlined a plan for direction in the music-finding process. Re-read that – HERE. Let’s also take a look at what the charts looked like – say, 50 years ago. The Billboard Hot 100 was wildly diverse. Have a peek – HERE.

Programmers didn’t have a format blinder. They chose what was popular regardless of the format. That year had John Denver, Golden Earing, Ray Stevens, Barry White, The Righteous Brothers, Elvis Presley, Mac Davis and The Tower of Power all on the same chart.

We’re dipping our collective toes into wild diversity in 2024.

A rapper with Nigerian ancestry topped The Billboard charts for 19 weeks, tying a Hot 100 record. Shaboozey also went #1 on the national Country charts. A Nashville-based rapper crossed from the Hip Hop Charts to country – THEN pop – sharing life events through song. Jellyroll’s Beautifully Broken debuted at #1 on The Billboard Top 200 album Charts late this year.

Just two days ago, CBS Sunday Morning profiled a prolific singer-songwriter who sold out Madison Square Garden – twice. Triple AAA has taken to Maggie Rogers. Where are you – pop radio?

Legendary Programming Guru Guy Zapoleon has shared his pop-radio highs and lows, mapping 10-year music cycles. He tells us last year was an awful year for The Doldrums’ or soft musical offerings.

There’s no ‘Doldrums’ if you know where to look.

Creative Audio Generators

There was a time you networked with others and discussed how GREAT certain radio brands sounded. These stations (Z100-New York was the standard-bearer) presented their audiences with World-Class Imaging, theatre-of-the-mind talent, BIG voiceover talent, harmonious tight jingles, and the cleanest audio processing.

What we know: leveraged public companies have decimated the talent pool, voice-over talent is going to the lowest bidder, jingles no longer punch momentum, time-starved producers cobble just the basics into audio, and hourly contract engineers saved the audio chain for the backburner.

Those fortunate to have an outsider veteran advisor are those you should lean on to get this part of Radio Magic back to air.

The electric feel talent would bring to air was an offshoot of LIVE radio. Talent would run their OWN tight board, interact with callers, and ‘feel’ the music in their presentation, creating that charged intangible.

Put these on your Christmas list:

Talent – The state of audio delivery has produced little talent who will ever do a LIVE show. The last half dozen emerging talents we’ve coached have never – and most likely never will – do a LIVE program. Coach talent to ‘hear’ the music when they piece together their tracks.  You would be surprised – maybe not – how many voice-trackers do know their format’s music. How songs start – end is critical to pacing. Coach your out-of-town voice-track talent to scour local chamber websites for events, pull the local weather, and reference local landmarks.

Imaging – This starts with the pen – not the mic. Write imaging as though Tom Hanks or Sam Elliot is your voice talent. Every word counts. Hire the voice talent that YOUR ear tells you fits your brand. It’s not good for veteran voice talent, but entry into this work has never been easier or cheaper. Voice talent fees have dropped exponentially in the past decade. That BIG voice you’ve had your ear on now may be in your budget range.

Sonics – Your audio atmospherics competition is no longer the radio brand across the river. Your audio chain needs to be as clean as Spotify – #1 for music discovery among young people – and satellite radio. In larger markets, we’ve been hypnotized into thinking we need front-end audio enhancement – Voltaire – to game the PPM units. Downside – it muddies audio.

Creative Community Promotions

Isn’t it funny how people are only hungry around Thanksgiving, kids only need coats in winter, and The Salvation Army only helps people at Christmas?

Point is – let’s keep the community connection year-round. Food, coat, and money drives are great campaigns for the community. Our service to our local community should be ongoing. 

There was a time when we’d put talent on a billboard until a goal was met, sleep in a bus until it was stuffed, or stay on air for days to promote a cause.

For Christmas this year, let’s gift ourselves with creative 2025 promotions that serve our communities and make a memorable mark on our brands.

A few examples:

Second Run Sing-Along

Have a February Food Drive at a local cinema on a Saturday morning. The price of admission is a bag of non–perishable food. Wicked and Moana 2 will both be online and in second-run theatres. Food drives not associated with a holiday stand out, help those in need, and create goodwill for our brands.

Featured Teacher (Or Classroom)

Teachers are time and cash-strapped. Most of their in-classroom materials come through donations or their own pocketbook. Have parents vote on a teacher or classroom to receive a grant. At times, it’s difficult to gain entry into local schools with radio events. The point of entry secret is through local PTOs in schools. PTOs are excellent at organizing events! Have talent visit and present the grant. Record The Pledge of Allegiance – yes, students still do this – in the classroom for replay the next day or week. All sorts of sponsor categories.

Kards For Kids

Have listeners create homemade cards for kids and send them to the station. Morning shows read some of them on the air. Talent then delivers to the children’s wing of the local hospital. Take pics—with permission—and post them online. Sell to the local hospital or any affinity group looking for great first-quarter P.R.

These are a few of my favorite things.

What’s on your Christmas wish list?

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Aircheck: Scott Shannon 1989 Morning Drive At ‘Pirate Radio’ KQLZ Los Angeles

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Scott Shannon will forever be linked to the incredible worst-to-first story of WHTZ, Z100 New York. On December 16, 2022, Shannon hosted his last show on WCBS.

People don’t always remember his trip west to Los Angeles in 1989, when he started “Pirate Radio,” KQLZ.

Listening back to this aircheck from July 1989, it’s interesting to hear things that most programmers would frown upon today, like horoscopes and canned bits, that Shannon integrated into the flow seamlessly and made them blend almost without noticing the start and the end.

The pacing allowed him to be entertaining, blend the characters and giveaways, and still live up to the station’s “more music morning” promise.

A good takeaway is how he tied station giveaways to the station’s music and pop culture, which allowed those who did not want to call in to play along vicariously and be entertained.

Enjoy Scott Shannon’s “Pirate Radio” June 21, 1989

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Steve Russell is Signing Off at the University of Florida

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When Steve Russell decided to return to the University of Florida in 1998, he came back to campus equipped with experiences and insights from working in sports media across multiple platforms. As the sports director of the campus radio and television outlets, he has mentored a bevy of aspiring professionals as they learn the fundamentals and gain real-world experience ahead of their graduations. The teaching aspect associated with the job has always been most important to him, but he also maintains an on-air presence as the host of Sportscene in afternoon drive. Through innovation in technology and distribution, the University of Florida has invested resources into its facilities to provide cutting-edge resources to the next generation and serve the community in the Gainesville metropolitan area.

Sitting at the back of Russell’s office is an assortment of cards he has received from former students thanking and congratulating him on his next chapter. Russell is retiring from his job after 27 years in the position and will host his final edition of Sportscene on Tuesday. Reflecting on the impetus to make this decision, he said he is in good health and that both of his parents were able to retire. Possessing messages of gratitude and thanks, the notes are a tangible depiction of his indelible impact on the lives of countless industry professionals. Serving as an insightful teacher and empowering role model, Russell’s influence is felt across the country through those he mentored.

“I’m not going to totally retire – I can never do that,” Russell said. “I’ll do a podcast, maybe come back here someday. Who knows? But I do want to be able to enjoy the fruits of that. And then one thing I’m really proud of is that I reached faculty status here, and I’m going to retire as a faculty emeritus, and that means a great, great deal to me [because] the most important thing I do is teach.”

The campus radio station became an ESPN Radio affiliate in 2015, adding the 95.3 FM frequency in the process, which has streamlined access for networking, guests and career development. Russell was also able to easily book guests to discuss collegiate sports and foster relationships in the business, continuing the legacy of Sportscene started by Larry Vettel over four decades ago. The longevity of the show, he surmises, has allowed it to thrive despite the diminished presence of caller-driven sports talk radio programs.

“When I was in school here, Otis Boggs was the sports director and kind of my mentor, and he would always say, ‘If somebody takes the time to call you, listen to them because they’re taking time out of their day to speak to you,’ and that’s resonated with me,” Russell said. “Now, have I been perfect at that? No, because sometimes every once in a while, there could be a contentious call, but by and large, that’s been really fun to do.”

Over the years, Russell has had the support of university officials and worked alongside WRUF operations coordinator Seth Harp. Moreover, he has mentored several alumni who are working professionally including Erin Andrews, Trevor Sikkema, Kristina Pink and Chris Kirschner.

When students express interest in sideline reporting, Russell always asks them to think about what separates them from other people and why they should be hired. Successfully adapting to changing industry paradigms and performing a multifaceted role with aplomb can be evinced through watching Laura Rutledge, who frequently comes back to the university and mentors the students.

“I wouldn’t have my career without Steve,” Rutledge said. “He taught me so much, encouraged me, challenged me and developed my skillset to be able to take on anything that came my way in this business. I still use the advice he’s given me over the years daily and I’m so grateful to have learned from him.”

In addition to teaching and hosting his radio program, he has also had the ability to broadcast Florida Gators sporting events, including football, basketball and softball. As Russell remains immersed in the community through his media ventures, he encourages students within the ESPN Experience classes to become proficient with sports.

“There’s nothing that I do that gives me greater pleasure than to see our kids develop and grow,” Russell said. “That’s why I’m here. Doing Sportscene’s great – it’s fun to do that; I get a kick out of that every day – but the main reason I’m here is to teach and to coach. When somebody starts out at a certain level and you see them progress – they put the work in and that work translates into getting a job in our business – I’ve done my job, and it’s been great.”

Russell is still determining what he will do with his time and ideally would like to have a schedule without any obligations. In addition to hosting a podcast, he will work with the local television station, WCJB TV20, the outlet that hired him as its first weekend sports anchor in history earlier in his career.

Signing off Sportscene for the final time on Tuesday afternoon will be difficult as the position has been both rewarding and humbling. At this time though, Russell feels that it is time for someone else to have the experiences he has been fortunate to garner. Since announcing his retirement, he has had various listeners reach out from across the United States to offer their congratulations. Although Russell affirms it is up to other people as to whether or not he left a legacy, he hopes to be remembered as someone who was there to develop the students and help them secure jobs in the business.

“A big chunk of me is here and will always be here,” Russell said. “And who knows? I’m not going to close any door about coming back in some capacity someday, but when you sink 26 or 27 years into anything, that’s a big commitment. I’ve gotten out so much from that because I’ve met so many people.”

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Pat McAfee’s Influence Goes Far Beyond ESPN and College GameDay

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There is no historical equivalent to Pat McAfee in sports media. We have seen plenty of evidence of the power he holds at ESPN since becoming a part of the Walt Disney family in 2023. Last week, we saw that may extend into the sports world too.

After the West Virginia Mountaineers fired Neal Brown, McAfee said on his show that plenty of friends and acquaintances reached out, hoping to get his endorsement to become the University’s new football coach. 

That reaction from potential candidates made sense. After all, at this point, does the school have a more famous or influential alum in the football world? Plus, McAfee made a big show of his $1 million commitment to the school’s NIL fund in late August. If he wanted to speak on someone’s behalf, the decision makers would probably have to listen.

On December 12, West Virginia announced that it had hired Rich Rodriguez away from Jacksonville State. From Rodriguez’s side of the fence, it makes sense. As scenic as Northeast Alabama can be, there’s more money in the Big 12 than there will ever be in Conference USA. 

For West Virginia though? Well, Rodriguez still knows how to coach ball, but he was the Mountaineers’ coach before and when he skipped town in 2007 to go to Michigan, he left a bad taste in the mouths of a lot of people in Morgantown.

This isn’t 2007. RichRod is 61 and the Mountaineers aren’t playing in the Big East anymore. I am not sure it’s a move I would have made, but when you consider that Rodriguez was the head coach at WVU when McAfee was kicking and punting for the Mountaineers and that McAfee admits he had conversations with the school’s athletics director…you see where I am going? 

I don’t think McAfee told the school who to hire, but I am sure he made his feelings about his old coach very clear when asked.

Whether you love or hate him, even if you are indifferent to him, you cannot deny that Pat McAfee is one-of-one in sports media. He has quickly established himself among the network’s most influential people. 

Note that I didn’t say “most influential talent”. I said, “most influential people”.

Other talent at the network want to be blessed with McAfee’s seal of approval. The network hires people that already have said seal. Network executives that don’t see the value in that are told to get their next paycheck somewhere else.

With evidence of those truths all over the news in recent years, is it so crazy to think that Pat McAfee’s alma mater might seek out his opinion on who to hire to coach the sport he played there? Remember, he’s the face of College GameDay – a show that is one of ESPN’s signature products and a show that changed its whole approach to covering college football to fit McAfee’s identity.

If he is happy with the hire, doesn’t it stand to reason that West Virginia may enjoy a brighter spotlight on College GameDay? Doesn’t it seem likely that he will bring his friend and former coach on his eponymous midday show to talk about Mountaineer football and then disseminate those clips across whatever social media platforms he values? That would probably be pretty good for recruiting and branding.

Even if you aren’t the world’s biggest college football fan, you have probably heard that the sport is in the middle of a transformational moment. McAfee may not have this kind of influence if he played his college ball at Penn State or Ohio State or Alabama. Those schools are secure with their spot in the two most powerful conferences in college sports. 

West Virginia isn’t. West Virginia needs to find advantages where it can.

The school just got some pretty good evidence of how its current conference, the Big 12, is valued by the College Football Playoff committee, and by extension ESPN. 

The conference’s champion, Arizona State, got one of the 12 spots in the College Football Playoff. No other team in the conference was even close. 

The Big 12 may get to call itself a Power 4 conference, but we have firm evidence that there’s really a Power 2 and an Above Average 2. If you’re in the Above Average 2, you probably want to find a way to move up before the next evolution of college football comes.

That’s what Pat McAfee can offer West Virginia. With no one at ESPN allowed to tell him what to talk about or how much time to spend on any one topic, he theoretically has the power to raise the Mountaineers’ profile to levels the school has never known before. He has his own powerful megaphone inside of sports’ most powerful megaphone.

Did Pat McAfee tell West Virginia University’s athletics director, Wren Baker, who should be the football program’s new leader? Probably not, but when McAfee does talk about WVU, whether it’s on his show, another show or on a phone call, Baker knows it would behoove him to listen. 

College sports has never put so much power in the hands of its TV partners and ESPN, thanks to its ownership of the College Football Playoff, has more power than anyone else. Pat McAfee seems to have more power than anyone else at ESPN. West Virginia University probably feels like it has hit the lottery.

Now the Mountaineers just have to prove they can compete in the Big 12 with Rich Rodriguez at the helm (this history of coaches reuniting with their old team in a new conference is very much working against them) and McAfee singing his praises on national TV.

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Is Radio Checking the Listener-Focused Experience Box?

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I have realized that I have done you a disservice. I keep bandying about the term “Listener-Focused Experience.” What the heck do I mean? Whatever your job entails at the old radio station, you must meet this phrase. 

The first key is to meet the needs of your station’s target listener. If you are a programmer and cannot define this, you need to do so immediately. The target listener is not just a political ideology or a local sports fan if you work in that format. It is the life that your audience lives.

Do you know your community’s census data? How many people live in the average household? What is the age of the average resident of your metro area? This is insanely important. How long is the average commute in your metro area?

I am a data-driven programmer. I don’t believe in just my gut feeling. While my experience and knowledge of the community in which I reside is important, it is only about the listeners. So, who is your station’s target listener? How old are they? Is it a man or a woman? What are the activities that your listeners participate in? Is your listener married or single? Be careful with marital status. Census Data says that about 40% of people in every age group are single. Is that a shocker?

We often are drawn to confirmation bias. We naturally believe that people have the same psychographics in which we reside. Don’t believe that. It may not be true.

Many talk show hosts in the news/talk radio format believe that it starts and ends with political ideology. That is great to believe, but that is not necessarily saleable. The average Fox News viewer is 68 years old. If you speak with your station’s Market President or Sales Manager, I can assure you that agency buyers could give a rat’s behind of the 68-year-old crew.

If your community’s average resident is 37, what are you to do? We must be focused on our target listener. It is not the average age of a resident in your community. It is probably someone 10-12 years older than your community’s average age. Is your community known for something cool? What is your target listener driving? What is the education of that individual? You must be focused on the lifestyle of your station’s target listener.

Are you providing a Listener-Focused Experience on your radio show or station? If you are in the sales department, it is sometimes an easier answer. Our heroes in the sales department are meeting with business owners, agencies, and other purchasers of commercials. Selling news/talk or sports talk radio is a tougher putt in many ways. Good hosts will ruffle some feathers from time to time. Yes, this is a good thing. If a client gets a complaint, it is manna from heaven. It is proof to the client that people are listening to the station.

I had a host that caused a kerfuffle a while ago. The business owner was so excited that he doubled his spending! Account Executives hate any type of brain damage from clients. These heroes are focused on adding billing, not worrying about a client with their underwear in a bundle because the morning guy said something that was edgy.

At my first programming job, the owner had a line: If someone came up to him and said that he loved or hated a host, the owner was thrilled. If someone said that a host was ok, this particular station owner was worried. If a client complains, here is what you say: “Thanks for letting me know. I will let the Program Director know. The host is such a great person. Have you ever met that host? I can bring the host to meet you. They would love to meet you.”

I guarantee you that the business owner or the agency will be completely disarmed. Bring the host by and have the host produce an Instagram, X, or Facebook video on the station’s social media site with that decision maker. I promise that you will get a better customer.

A Listener-Focused Experience is a holistic approach. If everything on your station is dedicated to the same thing, it creates a symphony of success. I love the NFL. If the offense of your favorite team is following the same play, you have a greater chance of success. If every show, AE, News Anchor are doing their own thing, you will fail. PERIOD. It is a unified process to provide a Listener-Focused Experience.

Chris Stigall Climbed the Talk Radio Ladder All the Way to the National Stage with Salem Radio Network

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Last week, Salem Radio Network announced a series of lineup changes that included AM 990 The Answer host Chris Stigall being elevated to mornings on the national network. After being announced as the network’s new morning show host, Stigall made no bones about it: this is what he’s always hoped for.

“It’s terribly exciting,” he said. “It’s one of those things that as a kid — ever since I started doing radio, and then when I really learned what talk radio was — it’s always something kind of in the back of your mind that you’d love to get there eventually. I’ve been very fortunate to be able to work in Philadelphia for a long time now. That’s a substantially larger city than Kansas City where I got my start, which when I got my start, Kansas City was an unbelievably big city to work in.

“It’s interesting. The old way of looking at broadcasting was you climb up the ladder by working in one market, and then a bigger market, and then hopefully, maybe, syndication someday,” continued Stigall. “Of course, the digital game has changed all that now, but there’s still something really exciting about being syndicated across multiple radio stations. The old-school guy in me is excited about it.”

The elevation for Stigall comes on the heels of Sebastian Gorka leaving the Salem Radio Network lineup to return to the White House to serve in the second administration for President-elect Donald Trump. Gorka — who helmed the 3-6 PM ET timeslot in the network’s schedule — will serve as the Deputy Assistant to the President and Senior Director of Counterterrorism.

Included in the changes is the move by Hugh Hewitt to Gorka’s old window, when he had previously been heard from 6-9 AM ET. However, Hewitt spends time in both the Eastern and Pacific time zone, meaning on some days, he was hosting a show from 3-6 AM PT. Obviously, that’s not conducive to a great personal life, and Hewitt was more than happy to return to his old afternoon timeslot, allowing Stigall to elevate to the national stage in the process.

And while others have sought to avoid morning drive, that daypart is one Chris Stigall relishes.

“It’s the best part of the day. To me, it’s always been the best part of the day,” he shared. “When you talk about radio, in my humble but accurate opinion, morning radio is the most intimate time for the entire broadcast day on radio. It’s why I loved it when I was a little kid. I remember my parents getting ready for work, listening to the guy on the morning show. And from being a little kid, I thought, ‘Oh, that’s a special job. I want that particular job.’

“So I’ve always had an affinity for the idea of being in people’s cars and in their homes as they’re getting ready for school, or work, or whatever it is they’re doing. To be able to step up now, at this level, and continue, for the most part, during that time slot across the country, it is an unbelievable honor. It’s a real thrill.”

The news/talk radio space — especially at the national level — can be a dog-eat-dog world. Behind the scenes angling for positions, better dayparts, or more resources and exposure can, at times, be the name of the game. Despite that, Stigall has never been interested in playing those games. Instead, he hoped his work on the air did the talking.

“I think we all love the business, and what we do. Some people really aggressively politic for openings. I’ve never been much for it,” he admitted. “I’ve always sort of hoped that, if I was any good — eventually, in time, if the opportunity presented itself — people that were in charge of decisions like that would see fit to promote the show.”

Which is exactly what happened. Stigall hasn’t been a Salem Media Group lifer. He joined the company in 2019. However the — in his words — “fortuitous” circumstances of Donald Trump winning the 2024 election, and subsequent addition of Sebastian Gorka to his administration led to his elevation to the national stage.

And while Chris Stigall has wanted and wished to be on a national platform, the opportunity with Salem Radio Network couldn’t be a more perfect one. Due to the rapid changes in technology in recent years, the host is able to take his show to a national audience from his previous studios at AM 990 The Answer in the City of Brotherly Love. That, coupled with the fact that he doesn’t have to uproot his family, made this the perfect time and place to make the leap.

“Everything stays exactly the same. That’s the blessing in the whole thing,” he stated. “It’s so funny. My parents and my family, when I came home and told my entire family (that he was being added to the national lineup, that was the first thing out of their mouth: ‘Does this mean we’re moving?’ Because that’s always been, historically, what it means in our business. When you get a promotion, you’re moving.

“That is the beauty about the advancement in our business, the change in our business is now there is no such thing as moving. You don’t have to move. You can stay right where you are. So, that’s great. I told the family the days of moving are over. At least for this family.”

The Chris Stigall Show will begin its run in national syndication in the Salem Radio Network lineup on Monday, January 13th. In addition to being heard nationally on terrestrial radio, the show will also be available as a video simulcast on Salem News Channel, the streaming network run by the company.

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