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Laurence Holmes: ‘This Has Been the Toughest Year of My Career’

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As Laurence Holmes is entering his 28th year working in sports talk radio, he revealed that his contract with 670 The Score is due to expire in June. Holmes began the dialogue by reflecting on how he had recently attended the BSM Summit in Chicago where he was reminded about station history and concurrently reflected on his time in the business. Regarding conversations with the station about his future, things have gone well thus far, but he admitted that there are decisions he will need to make about what his next steps will look like during a recent episode of the House of L podcast.

Holmes is currently in his first year hosting afternoon drive with Matt Spiegel after several years of being paired with Dan Bernstein. Several months after the lineup change at the station that paired Bernstein with Marshall Harris in middays, the outlet moved on from the longtime sports talk radio host. This occurred shortly after Bernstein had a controversial social media exchange and asked a user if they wanted to fight, which was preceded by another incident where he seemed to take umbrage towards a Barstool Sports personality calling him by his last name.

“This has been the toughest year of my career, and it’s made me think about a lot of things on how I want things to end, and sometimes you don’t get an opportunity to have things end the way that you want,” Holmes said. “Dan is a perfect example of that. Most of the time in our business, people don’t get a last show.

“Sometimes it’s celebrated – very happy that Terry Boers got his last show and got to have all the bouquets of flowers that all of us have wanted to throw in front of him for forever. He got that, but it’s very rare. A lot of times, relationships between talent and network end in acrimony, and you go, ‘Well, when exactly is that going to happen to me?’”

Later in the podcast, Holmes mentioned how he has been bothered by people assuming that he is not supportive of people just because he does not speak publicly about something. From there, he proceeded to speak more about the situation surrounding Bernstein and his rationale for staying silent on the matter.

“I know that when Dan was let go, that people were like, ‘Why didn’t you say anything?,’” Holmes explained. “Part of the reason that I didn’t say anything is because I don’t want Dan tagged with quotes from me. I don’t want him to have to open up Twitter and see, ‘Hey, did you see what Laurence said about Dan?,’ and maybe that’s the wrong strategy, but it was the strategy that I was going with. I didn’t feel like I needed to say anything publicly because I said everything I needed to say to Dan privately, and so we’re good. In fact – well, I’ll keep that to myself until it happens.”

Holmes outlined how it has been upsetting to see himself be painted as the villain, especially since he works hard to try and help people to get to where they hope to go. There are instances, however, where he relates to the Jay-Z line of living long enough to see himself becoming the villain, and he feels that it is a “telltale sign” that it is time for him to go.

“Wherever I’m in the way of someone, they can build their legacy because, clearly, I have outlived my welcome to a lot of people,” Holmes said. “Now for the most part, inside the house, inside The Score, that is not the case, at least from what people tell me that I am still someone that they like and respect and want to have around, but I also understand familiarity breeds contempt, and I’ve taken that into account, and I’m taking that into account and trying to figure out what the next thing is that I want to do or how long I want to do sports radio. Those are all things that are on my mind.”

Holmes voiced that it is terrible to have journalists and other people who know better avoid reaching out and writing what they believe to have happened. In fact, he articulated that not asking him about things going on personally is “bad journalism,” even if it ends up resulting in him declining to comment. Although he knows some of it goes with having the job, he admits that it has caused him not to do as much on social media.

“I’m not convinced that all of these different social media modalities actually push people towards the product,” Holmes said. “I’m not saying that it’s impossible, and I think there’s clearly an economic force inside of the social media platforms that do make it worth it. It’s why I’m interested in what ESPN 1000 is doing where they don’t subscribe to the Nielsen ratings anymore and they’re judging themselves off of the interaction of what’s happening with their social media, what’s happening with YouTube.”

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OutKick Sees 16% Increase in Unique Visitors During April

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The month of April was a good one for OutKick, as the digital platform founded by Clay Travis saw double-digit increases in unique visitors, as well as total multiplatform views and multiplatform minutes.

During April, OutKick saw 6.2 million unique visitors on its desktop and mobile platforms for the month. That figure represents a 16% increase compared to the same month last year. The outlet saw 19.1 million total digital multiplatform unique visitors.

OutKick also featured 27 million total multiplatform views, which was up 11% compared to the same window last year. It also featured an uptick of 10% in multiplatform minutes, up to 24 million.

“OutKick is the only sports site that’s driving the conversation between the intersection of sports and politics,” said Senior Vice President and Managing Editor Gary Schreier. “This not only separates us from a crowded sports media landscape but has been a direct result of our growth.”

Additionally, OutKick saw 1.2 million social interactions between Facebook, X, and Instagram during April. That’s growth of 36% compared to last year. It also featured 16.4 million video views on Facebook, X, and YouTube, up 45%, according to Comscore.

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YouTube Launches Weekly Podcast Chart Featuring Top 100 Shows

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YouTube has announced the launch of a new weekly podcast chart that will rank the top 100 most-watched podcasts in the United States.

The new chart will update every Wednesday and will offer a view of the best performing shows based on total watch time.

YouTube says the content from creators must be designated as a podcast and cannot be solely clips or Shorts to qualify for the rankings. The move from YouTube comes after Spotify announced its own similar feature earlier this month to share more information to creators and advertisers.

In the initial rankings, The Joe Rogan Experience — to the surprise of no one — was the top show on YouTube.

The other programs in the top five included Kill Tony, Rotten Mango, 48 Hours, and The MeidasTouch Podcast.

“Our Weekly Top Podcast Shows chart recognizes and celebrates top podcasters who are redefining the next era of entertainment with engaging, influential, culture-defining shows across a variety of genres like News, Sports, Comedy, and True Crime,” said YouTube Podcasts Product Manager Steve McLendon.

The company has promoted “more features and expanding podcast charts” in the coming weeks after its initial debut.

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Woody Paige: People Became Comfortable With Concept of ESPN ‘Around the Horn’

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The ESPN afternoon sports debate program Around the Horn is nearing its conclusion after 23 years on the airwaves. Tony Reali will be hosting the final episode of the show next Friday as the network moves in a different direction with its afternoon programming over the summer. SiriusXM Mad Dog Sports Radio host Adam Schein reflected on the show with longtime panelist Woody Paige, who appeared on the first episode in the history of the program in November 2002. Paige, who is a columnist for The Gazette in the Denver area, has registered more than 680 wins on the show and has become somewhat synonymous with the program.

As Around the Horn prepares to sign off the air, Schein asked Paige to discuss his perspectives from being involved in the venture. Paige detailed how the president and vice president of ESPN reached out to him at a Super Bowl explaining that the network was going to create a complimentary show to Pardon the Interruption and that they wanted him to be its first hire. Aside from being confused as to why they would ask him to participate, he also struggled to discern the concept. Paige remembers being told the show would resemble Hollywood Squares but instead focus on sports. From there, he reminisced on a meeting that took place from Carnegie Deli in New York City where he met Max Kellerman and listened to him discuss the New York Yankees and boxing at length.

“I’m sitting there just bored to tears,” Paige recalled, “and I said, ‘Excuse me, Max. You apparently have me confused with somebody who gives a sh*t,’ pardon me, ‘[towards] what you’re talking about,’ and the producer Bill Wolff said, ‘That’s the show, guys. You’re guys at a bar having arguments over sports.’”

When the show was beginning, he thought about how ESPN was founded as the “Entertainment and Sports Programming Network,” and he tried to fulfill those principles by crafting his personality around comedian Soupy Sales and former Broncos coach Dan Reeves. In the end, he was trying to be distinctive and find something that would work on television, and it ended up having a ripple effect on the rest of the program.

“Tim Cowlishaw said, ‘We didn’t think you belonged on the show, and then we found out you were the show, so we had to develop personalities,’” Paige reflected. “Bob Ryan was a serious, serious journalist on Sunday mornings on Sports Reporters. Bob Ryan showed us an entirely new side where he could be the elder professor and tell us what we’re doing, and we had fun with it, and I think people saw that, and they were confused about scoring and they were confused about journalists being on TV every day.”

Paige surmised that the reason ESPN had journalists on the program who worked outside of the company was in the ability to separate itself from them. For example, he surmised that if a network or league complained to the company, it could come back and say that the journalists are independent operators who are not directly employed by the network. In addition, Paige recently discovered that Around the Horn has been on the air longer than M*A*S*H and Cheers combined, and he feels that the show resonated with people in its timeslot.

“I think people became very comfortable with the concept of what we were doing and trying to figure out the scoring system, which I still have never figured out, and it was something comfortable in the afternoon,” Paige conveyed. “I asked somebody in the beginning – I said, ‘Who’s going to watch this show?,’ and they said, ‘Drunks at bars and college kids.’ Well, college and high school kids really adopted it, and people who came home at 5:00 in the East would say, ‘Well, let’s sit down and watch this.’”

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Mason Moussette Back In Seattle At Emma 94.1

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Mason Moussette ‘Mason On The Mic’ is joining Hot AC Emma 94.1 Seattle for afternoons. She will also host middays at Alice 97.3 in San Francisco.

Moussette announced the news on LinkedIn, saying, “More big news! I’ll be doing afternoons in Seattle at Emma 94.1 in addition to middays at Alice 97.3 in San Francisco!”

Moussette is a Seattle market veteran, having spent over 13 years at Movin’ 92.5. Other career stops include mornings at Hot 93.3 Dallas, morning show co-host at Amazon Music with The Daily Cannon with Nick Cannon.

Congratulate her here.

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Hits On The Horizon: Scotty McCreery, Chappell Roan And Sleep Token

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As we race towards Memorial Day and the unofficial beginning of Summer 2025, which is a big anticipation in many parts of the country, just not where I now live in Florida. We are thrilled the season is now over and the snowbirds have headed back north! 

Let’s look at the potential hits this week. 

From the Top 40/Hot AC world this week, here are a few choices I think are worth your attention.

Chappell Roan / “Red Wine Supernova.” Streams are about three million this week, down slightly, but the song is catchy. It’s great to hear Fitz and the Tantrums with a new one called “Man on the Moon” and NO, it’s not a remake of the R.E.M classic. Final pick this week is Jordan Frye / “Music.” There is no streaming story on this yet, but the hook is infectious.   

Moving into the Country music space, the long-awaited release from Morgan Wallen is out today, and I’m sure there will be lots of exploring the 30-plus songs on that album, with many we have not heard yet! 

Other choices besides Morgan for this week include a really cool song I’m really liking big time: Megan Moroney & Kenny Chesney / “You Had To Be There.” It’s a fun, catchy duet with two of the format’s biggest stars. Scotty McCreery w/ Hootie & The Blowfish / “Bottle Rockets” sounds like a super summer smash that is very familiar to me! 

LOCASH / “Wrong Hearts is something your ears should be on if they have not been. Last choice for this week, Blake Shelton / “Stay Country or Die Tryin’ on his latest album “For Recreational Use Only”. 

Let’s go to the Rhythm and R&B space next. 

This week, my choices include Tasha Cobbs Leonard / “Do It Anyway.” Another of my faves right now is Muni Long / “Superpowers.” Streams have been growing weekly to over 11 million currently.  Last, but not least, choice this week Tyla / “Bliss.” A really cool groove and feel to this record. 

Let’s explore the rock world for this week. 

I can’t stop listening to Sleep Token / “Caramel.” It gets really heavy about three-quarters in, but is such a cool song, racking up another four million plus streams this week. 

From the AAA world, and this is also getting love at Alt, Royal Otis / “Moody” the hook grabs you, “My girl’s a trip, when she’s Moody”! One last choice for you this week comes from 3 Days Grace/ “Apologies.” This song is so damn good! 

Enjoy the selections, and keep your ears filled with great music always! 

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Matt Flynn Joins 104.5 ESPN Baton Rouge ‘Off The Bench’ Morning Show

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Two stars from LSU’s 2007 national championship team are reuniting, this time behind the microphone. Former LSU quarterback Matt Flynn is joining his old teammate Jacob Hester as the new co-host of the morning show on 104.5 ESPN Baton Rouge. Flynn replaces T-Bob Hebert, who hosted his final Off The Bench program with Hester on Friday morning after eight years at Guaranty Media to take a position with Barstool Sports.

Flynn, who helped led the Tigers to the 2007 national title, went on to play seven seasons in the NFL, including a Super Bowl XLV victory with the Green Bay Packers. Flynn has been a regular contributor to Hester’s evening program, Hangin’ with Hester, since its debut in 2018, as well as to the morning show Off the Bench.

“Back at LSU, Flynn called the plays and I did the heavy lifting,” Hester joked. “Nothing has changed, except now it’s on live radio. Honestly, I just needed someone to blame when things go off the rails. And who better than my good friend and old signal caller? I’m fired up for all the chaotic energy and pro-level sports takes we’re about to unleash on your morning commute.”

Hester, who joined Off the Bench in 2021, will now take the lead on the restructured show. Despite the changes, the program will retain its name Off The Bench—marking its third iteration since launching in 2017.

“We’re thrilled to welcome Matt Flynn to the daily lineup,” said program director Matt Moscona. “He checks every box that we were looking for: deep knowledge of the teams we cover, credibility with our audience and a dynamic on-air personality. We feel like this will be talk radio gold.”

The show originally launched with Jordy Culotta and Hebert in 2017. When Culotta left in 2021, Hester moved from his mid-day slot to team up with Hebert. Now, Hester and Flynn will co-host weekday mornings from 7 to 10 a.m. beginning on June 2.

In addition to airing on 104.5 ESPN Baton Rouge, Off the Bench is syndicated in Alexandria on 94.7 ESPN and in Shreveport on 1130 AM The Tiger.

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830 WCCO, 620 WTMJ Score Regional Edward R. Murrow Awards

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The Region 4 winners of the Edward R. Murrow Awards have been announced by the Radio Television Digital News Association (RTDNA), and 830 WCCO in Minneapolis and 620 WTMJ in Milwaukee each earned top honors.

In the Radio | Large Market category, 830 WCCO won five awards for its news/talk radio coverage in the Twin Cities. It earned the top honor for Breaking News Coverage, Continuing Coverage, Excellence in Writing, Feature Reporting, and the top honor — Overall Excellence.

In the same category, 620 WTMJ earned a regional Edward R. Murrow Award for Excellence in Sound for its reporting on the 30 year anniversary of a bank robbery and shootout with police, and the revisit of that story.

Public Radio stations took home the other wins in the large market portion. WUWM in Milwaukee won the top honor for best Digital endeavor, as well as the best Podcast.

Meanwhile, MPR News earned top honors for best Newscast, News Series, News Documentary, Hard News, and Excellence in Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion.

Region 4 from the RTDNA encompasses Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wisconsin.

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Fox News Digital More Than Doubles Previous YouTube Performance During April

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Fox News Digital has mimicked the success of the cable network after the election of Donald Trump last year. It’s especially seeing plenty of success on YouTube.

On the digital video platform, Fox News racked up 326 million views during the month. That’s more than double the performance the network saw in the same month in 2024. Additionally, Fox Business Network topped just under 70 million views on YouTube, making it the 40th consecutive month it topped the business news rankings on YouTube, according to Comscore.

Fox News Digital also saw a large uptick in engagements on social media, especially Facebook, where its interactions rose 532% year-over-year. In total, the network saw 75.4 million social interactions during the month, a 203% increase, with the overwhelming majority of them coming on the Mark Zuckerberg-founded platform.

During April, the network saw its third-best month ever in total digital multiplatform unique visitors. Nearly 131 million unique visitors visited digital platforms with Fox News in the month.

It also featured 3.9 billion multiplatform minutes in the month, an increase of 31%. Total multiplatform views for the month were up 26% to 1.9 billion.

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Boomer Esiason Believes WFAN Producer Tommy Lugauer Should Be Disciplined for Social Media Rant

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With game six between the Boston Celtics and New York Knicks scheduled for this evening at Madison Square Garden, Evan & Tiki producer Tommy Lugauer caused a stir within the walls of WFAN in New York. This came after a social post following game five, where Boston kept their playoff hopes alive. In a video posted to his personal social channel, Lugauer spent nearly three minutes calling Evan Roberts, the co-host of the show Lugauer produces, a list of profane names for his actions at the TD Garden during game five. Consequently, this caught the attention of fellow WFAN host Boomer Esiason, who discussed the video and what he would do to discipline Lugauer for his actions against a host of the show he produces on WFAN.

Esiason discussed the incident during Friday’s Boomer and Gio morning program with co-host Gregg Giannotti and further explained why he felt Lugauer’s actions wouldn’t be tolerated if he were part of the morning show staff.

“If one of you guys did that to me, you’d be looking for another job,” stated Esiason. “We’re all teammates. We do bust each other’s chops now and then, but that is crossing the line. The whole thing crosses the line. I just think that right now that super talented Tommy Lugauer needs to be put in his place. Otherwise, he should be suspended for at least a week with no pay.”

Moreover, Giannotti mentioned during the discussion that WFAN program director Ryan Hurley discussed the incident with the morning show, asking what they would do regarding the situation. While the morning show co-host said any actions toward Lugauer are “above my pay grade,” Esiason was overly insistent that something must be done to discipline the WFAN producer for what he posted on social media.

“If it were me, I’d put Tommy on blast (suspension) for about two weeks to figure out what kind of person you want to be,” said Esiason.

However, Giannotti believed that all the blame can’t be placed solely on Lugauer. Instead, Roberts himself has to shoulder some responsibility.

“Evan’s got to take a hit on this as well,” noted Giannotti. “What you’re saying about how I would fire one of you guys, there’s no fear there (in afternoons), because no one respects him. So part of that’s got to be on him.”

Eventually, the video was discussed on Evan & Tiki during Thursday’s program, where Roberts said all is forgiven if an apology was given. As a result, Lugauer did apologize to Roberts on WFAN.

**WARNING** – Video does contain vulgar language.

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