I’m not ashamed to admit I’ve been in this crazy, whacky, marvelous radio business since 1978. It didn’t take long to find out that radio isn’t just a job. It literally rewires you. People who grow up on air, in promotions, programming, sales, production, or management/ownership often discover something unsettling when they try to leave.
It’s virtually impossible because nothing else seems to fit. It’s like the scene in Godfather Part 3 when Michael Corleone [Al Pacino] famously said, “Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!”
In reality, the hours are often better elsewhere. The pay can be higher. The stress is lower. Yet, so many still drift back, or at least feel like they never fully land anywhere else. The reason is simple but complicated at the same time. Radio really isn’t a career—it’s an identity.
When starting, radio’s rewards were nearly immediate. Everything was always at a frenetic pace. It was as if we learned to think fast, react even faster, and live in multiple 10–20 second moments. Adrenaline was truly baked into every on-air break, remote, or listener call.
Back in the day, I was lucky enough to be on the air on “The Big 610 – KFRC” in San Francisco, owned by RKO. When walking down studio row, the hair would stand up on the back of my neck. In the halls lived talent like Dr. Don Rose, Bobby Ocean, Don Ste John, and so many others. I worked at other great facilities, too, but KFRC was truly “The Amazing AM!”
It was after 9 p.m., and I finished a break but picked up one of the request lines that were always blinking.
“Hi KFRC! Who’s this?”
“Hi, this is Sharon—can you play a song for me?”
“Of course,” I replied. “Where ya calling from?”
Her response blew me away. “Cheyenne!”
Wow! This young woman was calling from 1,200 miles, 17 hours, and three states away! All the FMs in town needed repeaters just to clear the mountainous terrain of the Bay Area, but not KFRC. I’m certain there were good stations in Cheyenne, but for Sharon that night—none like “The Big 610.”
Honestly, my pulse increases just regaling that story. For many, that constant sense of awe becomes normal, and you settle into it as more comforting than anything else.
Other industries move slower, plan longer, and require patience that radio never trained us to have. As some have told me, when they try something else, they often feel like they’ve been dropped into slow motion.
There is also the public validation received as well. Being “the person on the radio” still comes with recognition. People know your voice, and your job is visible in a way most careers aren’t. Walking away from that can bring a sense of anonymity overnight. It can be a difficult adjustment for people who’ve spent years being recognized for doing their job.
Let’s not forget that radio talent are the original content creators and initial influencers. In fact, their love and passion still make radio far more valuable than Instagram, Facebook, or TikTok. Connections we make are seeded and rooted much deeper than those on social media.
Radio is immediate, live, local, and far more authentic. That talent means more to clients than anything else. Just like The Godfather—“Making an offer they can’t refuse.”
Radio also creates a true sense of belonging. We have all worked in places that are small ecosystems with shared stress, inside jokes, and battle scars. You survive the crumby remotes for which no one showed up, the brutal schedules that include holidays and weekends, format flips, and management changes that impacted everyone.
That kind of bonding is intense. When radio people move into corporate or traditional office environments, the emotional temperature can feel sterile. Fewer shared risks, and even fewer shared wins. I remember when Ed Christian offered me VP of Programming at Saga Communications, one thing stood out. We didn’t have a radio station in the corporate office. It could just as easily have been the inside of an insurance company.
Despite the hours, the stress, and all the issues, the old adage is true. It’s a calling, and if you love it, “you’ll never work a day in your life.”
It’s why leaving can feel like betrayal. Many radio pros feel if they quit, they’re somehow quitting on themselves. Even through change, shrinking budgets, and narrowed opportunities, the love of the game remains.
Something else that works against changing careers is that while we are highly adaptive, creative, and resilient. We’re not always great at shifting into corporate language that matters in other industries.
Doing mornings during a market downturn doesn’t neatly fit into a LinkedIn profile. Hiring managers across other industries don’t necessarily understand the value of our experience. It reinforces the feeling of “being stuck.”
Radio has taught most of us to endure long hours, modest pay, and constant change. We learn to push through it all because that’s just what we do. Ironically, though, that endurance is exactly what can keep some in the business long after they’ve outgrown it.
Leaving radio isn’t really about finding another job. It requires a redefining of who you are when the mic or the station logo isn’t synonymous with your name anymore. That’s why, for so many radio diehards, the most difficult part of doing anything else isn’t the work.
It’s letting go of the version of ourselves we created inside that little radio.
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Bob Lawrence writes weekly columns on radio leadership and business. He most recently served as market manager for MacDonald Broadcasting in Saginaw, Michigan. Throughout his career, Bob has held virtually every position in the business over his 40+ year career, from being on-air in Philadelphia, San Diego, and San Francisco to programming legendary stations including KHTR St. Louis, KITS Hot Hits and KIOI (K101) San Francisco to serving as the head of all programming for Saga Communications and working for the Radio Advertising Bureau. Before landing his current role, Bob helped lead Seven Mountains Media’s cluster in Parkersburg, WV/Marietta, OH. He can be reached by email at BGLawrence@me.com.
Bob also honed his research skills over ten years as Senior VP of Operations at Broadcast Architecture, eventually launching his own research company and serving as President/CEO of Pinnacle Media Worldwide for 15 years. Bob spent five years as VP of Programming for Saga Communications before joining New South Radio in Jackson, Mississippi as GM/Market Manager. Prior to joining Seven Mountains Media, Bob served as General Manager for the Radio Advertising Bureau, overseeing its “National Radio Talent System”.



Radio is not a career – it’s an identity.
No truer words have ever been spoken. I have not been “inside” a station for a very long time but I’m still identified as a radio guy.
The sad part of leaving the industry is that those outside the business don’t understand what skill sets radio people have. I remember a job interview I had for a marketing director position at an NGO. At the end of the interview, the interviewer said something like: “So you’ve done all this stuff but in radio”. I said: “Yes”.
Never got a second interview.
Radio is a virus that never leaves us.
Thanks Steve! I appreciate your kind remarks! It’s definitley a contagian that infects us and doesn;t let go!
Bob
All too true…the “withdraw”. On the flip side, it allowed me to work in a recording studio in W Hollywood, as a music promo person at Hitmakers, Marketing audio/video to businesses and…even teach at a broadcast school on the Universal Lot. Then, Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in! A mutual friend told me I live 10 minutes from Westwood One studios, I was back in as talent and later PD of formats I rode that foe another 10 years!
Wow Bob that column was on point about Radio People being a different breed of professionals. I tried to leave the Biz three times in my 44 years but I always kept getting pulled back in cuz of the love of what it is I did for a living. Later on as I got into a leadership role some of the fun I use to have went away but it was a opportunity to grow in a business that was constantly changing for the good or bad…I’ve been retired now for 4 years, but still do a internet radio show that keeps me engaged and having some fun…Living Life on my Terms👍🏼😎👌
Thanks for the peep behind the radio curtain and how it becomes a part of your DNA. I started at a daytime A.M. station in 1969 at age 16. While many of the incredibly talented folks I worked with over the years have passed on, I still keep in touch with the few that are left — including the now 90 year old owner of the station where I started. While I escaped into TV news in the mid-70s, then moved on to start a successful corporate relations and advertising firm, I’m still a radio guy at heart. I credit the ability to think on your feet, the joy of entertaining and informing people, the spontaneity, and the whole feel-good creative vide that came from working on-air in radio with sparking a lot of the other successes I’ve had in life. I’ve been fortunate to continue to be loosely associated with radio for 56 of my 72 years. I still occasionally do some commercial voice over work. I’m a bit saddened that as stations continue moving to the use of syndicated talent and voice tracks, some kids will find entry-level radio jobs harder to come by.