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Why 98 Rock’s Abe Kanan Believes in Live Radio

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For a long time, having a one-person morning show was thought of as giving up on the daypart. A solo host would immediately be labeled as the “more music” morning show. Expectations were that it might have a small audience but couldn’t compete with bigger, personality-driven shows.

Abe Kanan would beg to differ. He’s the solo host of the aptly named Abe Kanan Show mornings on Audacy Rock KRXQ (98 Rock)/Sacramento. “I do more content than most morning shows with five people,” Kanan says.

His success hosting a solo show comes from an unrelenting focus on the listener. According to Kanan, “We call it the listener’s show, and I feel like the biggest thing I do is customer service for the audience. I think it’s very important if you host a live radio show that you have good customer service, and the customers are your listeners.”

While it’s easy to say you should take care of the listener, Kanan takes the mission seriously. That can mean nearly anything, including helping a Journey ticket winner on sister station KSEG (96.9 the Eagle). “Even though I knew it was our sister station I still helped her find out how to get the tickets and walked her through downloading the Ticketmaster app. It took an hour and even though she didn’t listen before, now I have a listener for life.”

Creating Moments Listeners Remember

But it’s not just about helping individual listeners like the Journey woman. Or giving away pit passes to listeners on the lawn at big shows — which he’s done. He also uses his show to create memorable moments, like when he tapped into a legendary local story. Back in the early 2000s, a young child named John Adams set up a lemonade stand outside of Ozzfest. Unfortunately, there was no traffic backup that year. Even after a story on the local television news, the young man didn’t sell any lemonade.

Recently, when Ozzy died, the story resurfaced and Kanan set out to make things right. With help from listeners, he found Adams, who is now 33 and lives in Missouri. Kanan arranged to fly him back to town and do a lemonade sale. The money would go to a local child who needed a wheelchair-accessible van. “I worked with the Mayor of Roseville. We flew (Adams) in and had a huge lemonade sale and raised thousands of dollars.”

He also brought back one of the greatest fast-food promotions of all time: two Whoppers for two dollars. “I was talking on the radio about how every kid should get to experience 2 for $2 Whoppers. 15 minutes later I’m talking to the owner of a Burger King and they did it,” Kanan says. “I did a live broadcast from their store and they sold like 2,6000 Whoppers in four hours.”

That sort of attention-getting programming isn’t rare for Kanan. In fact, he firmly believes radio needs to take a lesson from the past if it’s going to survive. That means focusing on live radio. “I do a lot of things you can’t do if you’re voice tracking,” he says. “And I think that’s the future of radio if we can get back to it. More people doing live shows. It makes such a difference in the community.”

Learning From Mancow and Stern

And while Kanan is currently flying solo, he learned his craft as part of several multi-person morning shows. That includes working for Mancow Muller on Mancow’s Morning Madhouse at WKQX (Q101)/Chicago. He also hosted a four-person show that aired for several years on Sirius Radio’s Howard 101 channel. “Mancow and Howard Stern are the two people I always listened to when I was a kid and those are the people I got to work for when I started out.”

He says the greatest moment of his radio career was probably his first show on Stern’s channel. That’s when he heard the produced intro say, “Welcome to the world of Howard Stern. Up next the Abe Kanan show.”

That may have made his jaw drop. But Kanan is quick to say Mancow has had the most influence on how he approaches his show. “I’ve never met someone more talented than Mancow. He’s just so fast and the way he was able to run a show, his fingerprints are all over how I approach my show even though I do something completely different than what he did.”

All Fun, No Politics

One of the ways it’s different is Kanan’s hard-and-fast rule: none of the content on his show is serious. That means, unlike his mentor, he steers completely clear of politics. “My show is all about fun,” he says. “I won’t do anything political. I’ve been here for three years talking to listeners, and I have no idea how these people lean politically and I don’t care. That’s not the most interesting thing about a person anyway.”

Instead, Kanan enlists fans of the show to become part of his stable of correspondents. He explains that listeners can apply to be the show’s correspondent on any topic they want. Some of the most bizarre include two different IROC-Z correspondents and a frisky seniors correspondent. There are also ones for turkeys, surgical techs, tow truck drivers, potheads and Magic: The Gathering.

Being a correspondent, surprisingly, has little to do with reporting on your area of expertise. It’s actually about getting the word out. “These are all hard core listeners who are always promoting the show for me,” Kanan explains. “I have a list of hundreds more people who want to be correspondents and the way to become official is to keep spreading the word about the show.” In return for that work, there are perks to being an official member of the team. “We do an annual correspondents’ dinner where we celebrate these people.”

The Content

And Kanan feels that’s exactly the type of content that can’t be replicated by voice tracking or influencer-hosted shows. “Social media people are not radio people; it’s a completely different thing. Sure, they might have two million followers on TikTok, but those people aren’t coming over to the radio just because they like what you do online. I’m not saying someone like that can’t become a radio star, I’m saying you have to work with them to get there.” And since he’s passionate about the medium, Kanan is willing to be part of the solution. “We have to get back to live radio. I’ve even told (Audacy) to hire people for live night shows and I’ll work with them. I’ll help them.”

But for Kanan personally, being allowed to continue to fly solo and do his show is the most important thing. “I just prefer doing everything. I like answering calls and talking to listeners even if you don’t put them on the air because that’s another connection you’re creating.”

He feels the result of going alone is a creative radio show that sounds the way Kanan wants it to. “Usually when you come up with an idea you have to have meetings and get everyone’s input. Now when I come up with an idea I just do it and I think it works better for me that way.”

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How ESPN’s College Football Live Is Quietly Becoming One of Its Best Shows

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The college football season is entering its version of crunch time, when true playoff contenders separate themselves from the pack. One program captures the excitement of the season in a tight, engaging package. ESPN’s College Football Live, hosted by Zubin Mehenti, packs a ton of college football intel into a neat half-hour program.

Mehenti is a terrific ringleader for this college pigskin circus. He is understated, always prepared and excellent at pacing the show. The October 14 edition of College Football Live jumped right into perhaps the biggest game of the coming weekend: No. 2 Notre Dame at No. 8 BYU, with both teams undefeated.

Mehenti, who is not known for hyperbole, openly stated, “It’s not an exaggeration to say that these might be the two biggest college football fan bases, worldwide.” The graphics on College Football Live are highly relevant and enlightening. The same can be said for the show’s contributors.

A Mix Of Experience & Personality

Mehenti was joined in a two-shot by ESPN college football analysts Dusty Dvoracek and Stanford Steve Coughlin.

Coughlin has truly transitioned from a role player on SportsCenter with Scott Van Pelt and other shows to a frontline starter at ESPN. What I like most about Coughlin is that he brings emotion to go along with his insight. Dvoracek is equally captivating on air. The former Oklahoma Sooner won two Big 12 championships in Norman before the Chicago Bears drafted him in 2006. I put him right up there with Greg McElroy among ESPN’s college football pundits.

Like Coughlin, Dvoracek makes enthusiasm his calling card. The way he dives into a game would make Greg Louganis blush.

Coughlin and Dvoracek make an excellent combination, and their chemistry is palpable. As the commentary progressed, another telling graphic compared Ohio State wide receiver Jeremiah Smith with Oregon wideout Jesse Legree. The two had nearly identical statistics in receiving yards and touchdowns.

Following a commercial break, College Football Live featured a clip of SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey discussing his conference’s position on an expanded playoff format. Mehenti then explored the issue with ESPN senior college football writer Pete Thamel. A regular contributor to the network’s College GameDay juggernaut.

Thamel is a truly unsung personality on the sports media landscape. He is a worker who seldom deals in could-bes or might-bes. Viewers can tell that his reporting stems from conversations with the people closest to a story. From players and coaches to administrators. He is every bit the in-depth, well-connected reporter that ESPN’s Adam Schefter, Shams Charania and Jeff Passan are in their respective coverage of the NFL, NBA and MLB.

A Content Pace Worth Noting

College Football Live demonstrates an economy of commentary. The show moves quickly from one topic to another while still delivering thorough analysis and incisive opinions.

Mehenti serves as a terrific moderator, particularly in the two-shot with Dvoracek and Coughlin. The trio provided a solid look at this weekend’s Alabama-Tennessee game. This annual rivalry matchup features a cigar tradition in which fans of the winning team channel their inner Red Auerbach and light up a victory stogie in the stadium.

The game carries playoff implications, but it also represents a battle for pride.

Dvoracek asserted that Alabama’s defense “takes the ball away as good as any defense in the country.” Hot takes like this are a staple of College Football Live, but the statistical evidence that follows separates the program from other shows. This is not vapid bluster. There is plenty of meat on the bone when these analysts speak.

In addition to relevant graphics, the show incorporates plenty of B-roll from previous games, giving viewers a closer look at the players under discussion. The clips also take the program beyond the studio and onto the field, showcasing the in-game excitement that makes college football so compelling.

Thamel took center stage again to discuss key injuries that could affect the outcomes of this weekend’s games. Specifically, he provided an update on Mississippi State quarterback Kamario Taylor. Thamel reported that Taylor’s status for the Bulldogs’ upcoming game at LSU remained “in flux” because of a right foot and lower leg injury.

The final graphic might have been the show’s best. It illustrated how several SEC teams fared after big wins this season. Ole Miss beat LSU before losing to Florida. Florida beat Ole Miss before falling to Missouri, while Mississippi State beat Missouri before losing to Alabama. The sequence perfectly encapsulated the unpredictability and parity that have defined the conference this year.

College Football Live might not have the profile of College GameDay, NFL Live or NBA Today, but it is among ESPN’s best-produced and best-directed programs. With Mehenti, Dvoracek, Coughlin and Thamel, the show delivers one of the most complete, compact and concise looks at college football on television today.

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How Roku Puts FOX Corp. in Position to Challenge YouTube

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FOX Corp. made one of the boldest moves in media, and it might be underrated. Once the Roku deal closes early next year, the company will control one of the most powerful doorways into American living rooms. That’s a huge shift for a company that once hesitated on streaming.

Consider the numbers. With Roku under its umbrella, FOX will rank as the third-largest TV distributor in the U.S. Only YouTube and Skydance, which combined Paramount and Warner Bros. Discovery, will sit ahead of it. That’s rarefied air for FOX.

However, size alone isn’t the real story. The bigger story is where that size lands. FOX now holds a commanding spot in an arena that’s growing faster than almost any other in television.

FOX Is Building a FAST Empire

When you think about FOX today, two brands come to mind first. FOX Sports and Fox News are already hugely successful, and both deliver massive audiences. Now, add Tubi and The Roku Channel to the mix. The result is one of the most dominant players in free ad-supported streaming television, or FAST. In fact, FOX might be the most dominant player of all.

FAST continues to grow by leaps and bounds every year, and FOX sits right in the middle of that growth. Tubi already gives the company a strong foothold. Meanwhile, The Roku Channel brings enormous reach on one of the platforms viewers use most. Together, those two services give FOX a scale few competitors can touch.

The momentum couldn’t be stronger. Viewers are tired of juggling subscriptions and rising monthly bills. Because of that, free options look more appealing every month. FOX already owns some of the strongest FAST assets on the market, so it stands to benefit more than anyone.

Think about the synergy, too. Live sports and breaking news drive habitual viewing. Likewise, Tubi’s deep library and The Roku Channel’s free lineup keep viewers around between big events. That combination builds the daily habit advertisers want.

Moreover, the business model fits FOX perfectly. Advertisers crave reach, and viewers love free. Therefore, FOX can sell scale to one group while serving the other. Plus, Roku’s platform gives FOX influence over the home screen where viewing decisions start.

Perfectly Positioned to Challenge YouTube

Everyone in the TV space is fighting to compete with YouTube. Few companies have found a real answer. Still, FOX looks as well-positioned as any of them to take the challenge head-on.

Here’s why. FOX has premium live sports, the nation’s top cable news network, and a rapidly growing FAST business. Now, Roku adds the distribution muscle to connect all of it. Consequently, FOX can compete for viewers and ad dollars at a scale it never had before.

Data matters, too. Roku’s platform will show FOX what viewers watch and how they respond to ads. Advertisers value that insight, and FOX can now offer it alongside premium content. Furthermore, one of YouTube’s biggest advantages has always been its grip on the home screen. FOX now owns a real piece of that territory.

Live programming gives it another edge. YouTube thrives on creators, yet it can’t match FOX’s marquee sports rights or its news operation. Those assets pull in viewers every day, and Roku now puts them front and center.

A Masterclass in Timing

Timing helps as well. After hesitating at first, FOX entered the streaming wars at exactly the right moment. While rivals burned billions chasing subscribers, FOX built a leaner, ad-supported approach. As a result, it avoided the costly missteps that plagued others.

I don’t know that people are talking about this enough.

FOX isn’t just joining the fight against YouTube. Instead, it’s showing up with a roster of assets few rivals can match. And now it’s dancing with the prettiest partner in the room.

Ultimately, this is a masterclass by the company. It waited, watched and then struck at the perfect time. Don’t be surprised if it becomes the biggest challenger YouTube faces.

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Sabrina From Queens Talks Mornings, Social Media and Life On-Air

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Sabrina Sergio did not start her radio career in a studio. She started in sales. Sergio and I worked together at Audacy collaborating on tent pole events for stations in multiple markets. As passionate as I knew she was about being on-air, she gave 110% to her role in sales activation and was pretty darn good at both. Today, she has left sales behind and co-hosts a new morning show on Long Island.

Country fans know her as Sabrina From Queens. She now shares the mic with Cane Peterson on “Cane + Sabrina.” Meanwhile, her social following keeps growing, and she’s one of the better jocks creating content day to day. I caught up with Sabrina and we talked about how she got here and what advice she has when it comes to creative social media strategy.

From Sales Floor to Studio

Sergio grew up in Queens, New York, and she still calls it home. But these days, she also spends plenty of time out on Long Island. A lifelong Country fan, she turned her love of music and people into a career in radio.

Her path began several years ago when she joined Audacy New York as a Sales Strategist. From there, she grew her role to Director of Activation for Events & Experiences. Along the way, she also found a spot on the air when she became part of New York’s Country 94.7 HD2 morning show. Since January of 2022, she has been Sabrina Sergio by day, holding down her sales role while simultaneously honing her on-air chops hosting 3 to 6pm under her air name, Sabrina From Queens. Radio’s version of Clark Kent/Batman.

However, in September, Sergio exited both her on-air and sales roles at Audacy and joined Connoisseur Media’s 103.1 The Wolf on Long Island full time.

I asked about what she’s taking with her from her sales role into now being solely on-air. That job kept her close to clients every day. As a result, she picked up a skill that now helps her on the air.

“I think it’s really taught me how to be a good listener,” she said. She spent much of her time hearing what clients wanted and needed. In addition, the work brought out her creative side. She says expressing that creativity on the air has been a lot of fun.

A New York Voice in Country Radio

Sergio brings a big personality and a New York attitude to Country radio. When asked whether she leans into that perspective, she did not hesitate. “YOU BET I AM!” she said.

Then she explained why. “I really just feel so lucky to connect with listeners who also enjoy country music in the state of NY,” she said. She calls them “such a niche group of people (& a growing community everyday).” Moreover, she takes pride in her role. “I’m incredibly blessed to be a P1 in the format,” she said. She also sees herself as “someone advocating for it on behalf of our listeners.”

Her credibility comes from real fandom. “I think being a genuine fan of the music has given me a good amount of credibility with our listeners,” she said.

Teaming Up With Cane Peterson

The new show pairs Sergio with a New York radio veteran. Cane Peterson has worked in the NYC area for more than 30 years. Sergio says the pairing clicks already. “Cane has been so amazing to work with already,” she said. “I learn so much from him every day and we balance each other out really well.”

One thing that works is how well they complement each other since the two bring different styles. “We’re very different, yet the same in so many ways,” she said. “I hope the listeners can really feel our authentic connection.”

Authenticity sits at the center of their plan. “We pride ourselves in being the same people on the air that we are off the air,” Sergio said. Next, she looks ahead to events. She said they “can’t wait for listeners to really see that when we meet them out at events.”

She has also noticed Peterson’s following. “It’s also been really remarkable to see how many of the listeners know Cane from his prior radio stops,” she said. She also called it inspiring to see “the loyal fanbase he’s created over the years.” Finally, she sees a goal in it. “It’s something I aspire to have now,” she said.

Trading Late Nights for Early Alarms

Mornings bring a big adjustment. Sergio now wakes up at 4am each day. Yet she keeps a sense of humor about it. “I’m definitely not out as late as I used to be,” she said while laughing.

At first, she felt nervous. “I was definitely a little worried about what it would be like adjusting to getting up at 4am every day,” she said. However, the routine now works for her. “Now that I’m settled in my routine, I can honestly say it isn’t so bad,” she said.

Structure helps. “I’m a very regimented person so I like the structure I have now,” she said. Plus, she sees a bonus. She said “having the majority of my day free after the show is a perk.”

Why Social Media Matters

Social media plays a big role in her job. Traditional radio limits the time she has with listeners. “You only get 4 hours a day to connect with listeners through the radio,” she said. “But with social media they can keep up with us all day long.”

Furthermore, listeners only hear part of the story. “They only get to hear such small snippets of what’s going on in our lives,” she said. “It’s so important to foster that connection throughout the day.”

Her advice for other on-air talent comes down to two points. First, talk to the camera. “My biggest piece of advice is to talk to the camera!” she said. “Create videos of yourself physically speaking to your audience so they really get to know who you are.” She explained why this matters in radio. “I think that’s so important especially with radio where the majority of listeners don’t know what we look like,” she said. “It helps bridge that gap.”

Second, answer your followers. “Also, respond to comments and DMs!” she said. “Reward the people who are loyal and follow you, get to know them!”

A Night to Remember at Jones Beach

Sergio’s calendar stays full of concerts, artist interviews, fashion and pop culture. Still, one recent moment stands out. Dan + Shay gave her a shoutout on stage at Jones Beach.

“I don’t think I’ve ever felt cooler in my life,” she said. “I was surrounded by so many friends & listeners that night.” Everyone shared the surprise. She said the group was “all so shocked and couldn’t believe that just happened.”

Then the duo did it again. “They did it twice and I missed the second one,” she said. “I was so lucky to have a listener capture the moment and send it to me the next day!”

The Countdown to “I Do”

Sergio is also a 2026 bride, and she has documented the countdown for her followers. Deciding what to share has been tough. “This has been sooooooo hard for me!!” she said. “I started out sharing a lot.”

However, her friends, who are also wedding guests, follow her. She felt she was “losing the element of surprise and spoiling a lot of my surprises.” As a result, she built a simple filter. She asks herself, “is this content I would want to see if I was just starting out planning a wedding?” “If the answer is ‘yes’ then I post it right away!” she said.

Meanwhile, she is holding plenty back. “There’s so much that I’ve been waiting to share though,” she said. “I’m really excited for everyone to see what I’ve been working on.”

What Comes Next

For now, Sergio focuses on mornings, events and her listeners. She’s the next generation of radio that, in my opinion, is someone who makes me feel like the future of radio might not be so bleak. Her path shows how passion, hard work, creativity and genuine fandom can carry a radio career from the sales floor to the morning show.

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Netflix Chief Content Officer Bela Bajaria Departing Company After 10 Ten Years

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Bela Bajaria is out as Netflix’s chief content officer. The move comes just one day after the streamer laid off roughly 1,000 employees.

What We Know: Bajaria joined Netflix in 2016, initially overseeing its unscripted TV slate. The company later named her chief content officer in 2023. Meanwhile, former Disney executive Peter Rice has stepped into the role. As Chief Content Officer, Rice will lead Netflix’s global content organization, overseeing scripted and unscripted series, film, live events and more across all regions.

What They Said: Ted Sarandos, co-CEO of Netflix: “I want to thank Bela for a decade of dedication, innovation, creativity and leadership. She led enormous changes at Netflix. She helped broaden our content offering to include the large-scale expansion of unscripted programming and the launches of live events and sports, in addition to crafting and running a world-class, global slate of films and series. I’m incredibly grateful for everything she’s done to help Netflix entertain the world.”

Peter Rice: “Netflix has fundamentally changed the way stories are made, shared and experienced around the world. They’ve shown again and again that they’re willing to take chances on distinctive voices and fresh ideas. I’m excited to work with the team to help bring even more great stories to members everywhere. I’m grateful to Bela for building such a remarkable global team, and I look forward to building on everything she and the team have created.”

What Remains Unclear: Netflix hasn’t explained what drove the decision. Likewise, it’s unclear whether her exit ties to this week’s layoffs. Additionally, the company hasn’t detailed how Rice might reshape its content strategy.

What It Means: The shakeup arrives as Netflix’s growth slows. In fact, Sarandos recently told Bloomberg’s Screentime event that engagement grew just 2% across 200 billion viewing hours, but that isn’t good enough by his standards. He also argued that not all engagement carries equal value. As a result, Rice inherits pressure to deliver programming that truly moves the needle.

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UMG Layoffs Hit MCA Nashville Leadership, Promotion Staff

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Universal Music Group’s companywide restructuring has reached Nashville. In fact, the cuts claimed eight members of MCA’s leadership and promotion teams. Country Aircheck reported the news first by email.

What We Know: MCA COO Rob Femia is among the departures. Femia joined then-UMG Nashville in 2013 and became COO in 2025. Additionally, SVP of Promotion and Regional Marketing Miranda McDonald is also out. McDonald arrived in 2012 and rose to SVP earlier this year. VP of E-Commerce and Business Development Taylor Viegut also exited. Viegut became VP in 2025 after five years with the company.

The layoffs also hit MCA’s regional promotion staff. Directors John Trapane, Donna Jo Passuntino, Ashley Knight and Shannon Hogan are leaving. Trapane joined Capitol in 2009 before moving to EMI in 2012. Meanwhile, Passuntino spent nearly 20 years with the label group. Knight and Hogan joined in 2013 and 2021, respectively. Director of Radio Marketing Houston Gaither is gone too. Gaither came aboard from Sony Music Nashville in 2024.

The Nashville cuts follow major changes at UMG’s other labels. Republic Records Chairman and CEO Jim Roppo is leaving to become vice chair at Warner Records. Similarly, Def Jam’s leadership is exiting. Overall, UMG expects the restructuring to save roughly $270 million a year.

What They Said: “Our consistent success has been built on our ability to anticipate industry changes, act early to better serve all our artists and songwriters, and capture opportunities in music’s fastest-growing areas. Our industry-leading investment in artist development has always guided that work and will continue to do so. We’re bringing in new skills and technology and connecting expertise across our teams to deliver greater global impact and greater efficiency. Where we have made the difficult decision to remove certain roles, we are deeply grateful for the contributions of the people leaving us.“ – Universal Media Group company statement

What Remains Unclear: So far, MCA hasn’t said who will take over the departing executives’ responsibilities. UMG also hasn’t disclosed how many employees lost their jobs companywide.

What It Means: For country radio, these cuts sting a little more. Regional promotion directors are often a programmer’s main contact at a label. As a result, stations may soon see fewer label reps working more artists. Likewise, more layoffs could follow as UMG continues restructuring in Europe and the U.K.

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Oxford Road’s Dan Granger: Host-Read Ads Remain Podcasting’s Golden Goose

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Podcasters chasing new revenue streams shouldn’t abandon the host-read ad. In fact, Oxford Road CEO Dan Granger believes it’s the medium’s “golden goose.”

What We Know: Granger joined Sounds Profitable founder Bryan Barletta for a Podcast Academy roundtable on the business of podcasting. Oxford Road buys more than half a billion dollars in ads each year. The pair debated whether creators lean too heavily on advertising. Barletta urged individual creators to look harder at live shows and merchandise. However, Granger argued podcasters shouldn’t treat it as an either-or choice. Instead, he described a funnel. Free, ad-supported episodes bring listeners in. Then paywalls, live events, merch and equity deals monetize the most loyal fans.

Granger also warned podcasters against cutting host reads from subscriber feeds. Barletta agreed, noting that paying subscribers are more likely to buy what hosts endorse. Meanwhile, measurement remains the industry’s biggest obstacle. According to Granger, the average brand uses four attribution methods and fully trusts none of them. As a result, Oxford Road helped build the AMP Accords. The framework defines a podcast, a cross-platform impression and standardized performance measurement. The IAB is now reviewing it.

Looking ahead, both men pointed to live events as an overlooked opportunity. Additionally, Barletta tapped merch for a big moment, while Granger picked newsletters. Barletta also called video the biggest growth area, though he cautioned that growth doesn’t always mean revenue.

Finally, Granger offered blunt advice for first-time sponsors. Brands typically test a show with three or four spots. Consequently, creators should overdeliver on that first test to earn renewals. He also encouraged creators to build their own audience database so they aren’t dependent on platforms.

What They Said: “The average brand runs four attribution methods and fully trusts none of them. We make it so hard on our customers to do business with us. It is a crime as an industry.” – Dan Granger on the Measurement Mess

“This is a slow burn. It’s a long game. No one has money for you until you have bled past the point where it makes any sense.” – Dan Granger‘s advice to those expecting to make fast money.

“Sometimes you have to separate out how you make money from how you make art. Don’t lose that because you want to make a buck, because you’ll end up hating your podcast.” – Bryan Barletta‘s closing advice

What Remains Unclear: So far, the IAB hasn’t said when it might formally adopt the AMP Accords. Likewise, it’s unclear how quickly YouTube, Spotify and Apple will share the data advertisers want.

What It Means: For podcasters, the message is clear. Advertising still funds the ecosystem, but diversified revenue protects creators. Similarly, trust remains the medium’s biggest selling point. Shows that protect authentic host reads should keep commanding premium rates.

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CNN Strikes AI Partnership with Google

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CNN is partnering with Google to explore how generative AI can expand audiences for its journalism. The multi-year agreement gives Google enhanced content rights for experimental features across its products.

What We Know: CNN announced the strategic partnership on October 15th, outlining plans to explore how Google’s generative AI tools can help audiences discover and engage with its reporting. The agreement gives Google enhanced content rights to develop experimental product features. Meanwhile, CNN says the deal aligns with its broader AI strategy, which prioritizes protecting its intellectual property. The network also maintains other commercial partnerships and continues discussions with industry players about responsible AI use.

What They Said: “With this partnership, we’re unlocking new pathways for audiences to access CNN’s unparalleled journalism while being compensated for the delivery and use of our unique intellectual property in connection with AI products. Google’s innovation with generative AI has changed how people discover information and content, and now those tools will help us explore new ways to discover and engage audiences.” -CNN Senior Vice President of Strategic Partnerships and Business Development Sam Felix

What Remains Unclear: CNN and Google haven’t disclosed the financial terms of the agreement. And the two companies also haven’t specified which experimental features will emerge from the partnership. The companies also haven’t detailed when audiences might see changes or how Google will incorporate CNN’s journalism into its AI-powered products.

What It Means: The agreement gives CNN another opportunity to monetize its journalism as AI reshapes how audiences find news online. For Google, the partnership could help improve news discovery through generative AI while securing access to established journalism. However, the deal also highlights the growing importance of licensing agreements as publishers seek compensation for the use of their content in AI products.

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The Bret Mega Show to Split Hosts Between Two Cities

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The Bret Mega Show is splitting its team between two cities as the morning program prepares for a relocation. The move comes as Audacy prepares to sell Y98 in St. Louis to Hoffmann Media Group.

What We Know: The Bret Mega Show, currently based at Y98, will divide its on-air team between two locations. Bret Mega and Anna “AB” Bohlmann will relocate to an unidentified city, while Kevin Berghoff and Hannah Gibbs will remain in St. Louis. The show also airs on Audacy sister stations The 96.5 in Philadelphia, 99.7 The Point in Kansas City, and 105.3 The Buzz in Wichita. Meanwhile, Y98 is included in Audacy’s planned sale to Hoffmann Media Group.

What They Said: “Bret and AB are moving to a new city and will be doing the show from there! Hannah and Kevin are staying right here in St. Louis to keep you up to date on all things local every morning!” -A social media post from The Bret Mega Show

What Remains Unclear: The new city for Mega and Bohlmann hasn’t been identified. It’s also unclear how the split-location arrangement will affect the show’s production, on-air format, or day-to-day operations. Further details about the transition haven’t been announced.

What It Means: The split allows The Bret Mega Show to maintain a presence in St. Louis while relocating two of its hosts. Berghoff and Gibbs will continue delivering local updates, while Mega and Bohlmann will broadcast from elsewhere. The change also comes as Audacy prepares to transfer ownership of Y98, creating a transition period for the St. Louis station and its morning programming.

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