Home Blog Page 148

Is Your Radio Station Preparing to Change Formats? Watch for These Signs

0

Many programmers have felt it. That quiet unease that settles in after a rough ratings period, or after a conversation that didn’t quite add up. Sometimes it’s nothing more than paranoia. Sometimes it turns out to be something much more significant.

The reality is that radio stations rarely wake up one morning and decide to flip formats. Major changes leave clues. They surface in meetings, in budgets, in body language, and in the questions that suddenly start getting asked. By the time the new logo appears and the press release goes out, the decision was almost certainly made weeks — if not months — earlier.

Understanding the warning signs won’t always change the outcome. But it gives you the chance to make your case, protect your team, and approach uncertainty with clear eyes instead of blind optimism.

1. Revenue Has Become a Bigger Problem Than Ratings

Programmers are wired to focus on ratings. It’s how we keep score. It’s how we measure whether the work we’re putting in is actually connecting with an audience.

Owners focus on revenue. Always have. Always will.

When budget conversations start happening more frequently than ratings conversations — when the topic dominating every leadership meeting is sales performance rather than audience growth — it’s a signal that management is asking harder questions about the station’s future viability. A format can survive a bad book. It can survive two bad books. What’s far more difficult to survive is a revenue trend that keeps moving in the wrong direction year after year, with no realistic path to recovery.

2. Closed-Door Meetings Suddenly Become Common

Every company has private conversations. That’s normal. What’s not normal is when those conversations suddenly multiply, and programming is consistently the last department to know anything.

Pay attention when the station manager starts disappearing into conference rooms more than usual. And when attention when regional or corporate executives show up with no clear agenda. Pay attention when conversations that used to happen in the open suddenly shift behind closed doors. Leadership teams evaluating major strategic changes don’t always announce what they’re considering. But they almost always telegraph it through their behavior long before any formal announcement.

3. Research and Competitive Analysis Suddenly Increase

There’s a big difference between a company that regularly studies the market and a company that suddenly wants to know everything about it. When management starts commissioning additional research, asking pointed questions about competitor performance, and having detailed conversations about audience opportunities and format gaps in the market, it rarely happens in a vacuum. Companies don’t invest time and money studying alternatives unless they’re at least considering making a move. The research itself is often the first visible step in a longer decision-making process.

4. Budgets Tighten and Hiring Stalls

The open position that doesn’t get filled. The marketing spend that keeps getting delayed. The contest budget that quietly disappears. The equipment upgrade that gets kicked to next quarter, and then the quarter after that. When ownership is genuinely uncertain about where a station is headed, discretionary spending almost always slows down while decisions are being evaluated. It’s difficult to invest aggressively in something that may soon look very different. A frozen budget isn’t always a sign of financial trouble at the company level. Sometimes it simply means the people holding the checkbook aren’t sure what they’re building yet.

5. Leadership No Longer Believes the Station Can Win

This is the one that matters most.

Stations can survive poor ratings. They can survive weak revenue periods, talent departures, format adjustments, and economic downturns. Radio history is full of comebacks that happened when the odds looked terrible. What stations rarely survive is the moment leadership stops believing the format itself has a future. Once ownership reaches the conclusion that a different format gives them a better chance to succeed in that market, the conversation fundamentally shifts. It’s no longer about fixing what exists. It’s about replacing it.

You can often sense this change before anyone says it out loud. The passion is gone from discussions about the station’s potential. The pushback you used to get when you asked for resources disappears — not because things got easier, but because nobody is fighting for the same vision anymore.

No Final Vote

Perhaps the hardest part of being a programmer is accepting that we don’t always get the final vote.

Most of us believe in our brands. We should. We’ve invested years building them, defending them in meetings, and spending countless hours trying to make them better. That commitment is real, and it matters. But it doesn’t always determine the outcome.

Sometimes the clock simply runs out. Market conditions shift. Revenue realities become impossible to ignore. And sometimes the people elsewhere in the building have arrived at a different conclusion about where the station needs to go.

That doesn’t mean they’re right. It doesn’t mean you’re wrong. It means the business has reached a crossroads, and someone with authority has decided to take a different road.

The best programmers understand that most business decisions aren’t personal, even when they feel that way. Be passionate. Fight for your format. Present your case as clearly and compellingly as you can. But if the decision ultimately goes the other way, recognize it for what it is — a business call made by people who are accountable for results you may never fully see.

Every station eventually reaches a crossroads. Some survive it. Some reinvent themselves completely. And some become the next format on the dial. The ones who navigate it best are usually the ones who saw it coming and chose to stay clear-eyed all the way through.

Barrett Media produces daily content on the music, news, and sports media industries. Sign up for our newsletters to stay updated and get the latest information right in your inbox.

Is Nielsen’s Diary Service Headed for a Major Overhaul?

The radio diary service, whether Arbitron or Nielsen, has been “currency” for over 60 years. Think about that — what can you think of that’s around today, essentially unchanged for over six decades? Sure, the diary’s design has been updated from time to time and the method of recruiting potential respondents went through a major upheaval thanks to the demise of landlines and the near-universal penetration of cell phones. Still, the use of a paper diary to measure seven days of radio listening has survived, which is a tribute to how well it works. But all good things must come to an end someday.

On May 28th, Nielsen held a webinar to talk about potential changes to the diary service, some of which can be considered radical. This week, I’ll set the stage and next week’s column will offer my thoughts on the specifics of Nielsen’s proposed changes.

Consider how we arrived at this point. Long ago and far away, diary service response rates, after adjustments, were in the 30-40% range. Other than government surveys, which have now dropped to that level, that was excellent despite what the Media Rating Council said. Today, response rates are typically in the single digits.

The world has moved online. While there were attempts around 2006-07 that I’ve noted previously in this column, Nielsen has implemented an online version of the diary, named mSurvey, this year. Per Nielsen’s disclosures, about 10% of the sample will be using the mSurvey, at least for now.

A Brief History of Diary Service Competition

For so many years, radio was a powerful medium. Operators made plenty of money and while they would gripe about the price that Arbitron charged, if the dollars rolled in and margins stayed high, they could deal with it. Competitors came and went. Some arrived around 1980 and for those of you in my demo group, names like RAM, Burke, and Trac-7 might trigger a brain cell or two.

Then there was Birch, which was probably the strongest competitor that Arbitron ever faced. I was part of Birch in South Florida when the announcement was made in late 1991 that the company was shutting down. Later, Nielsen took on Arbitron with an ill-fated diary service before eventually buying the company in 2013. Frankly, the diary has a hell of a track record.

But it’s 2026 and times have changed. The webinar spoke about profound methodological changes that will be here very soon. Nielsen can talk all they want about testing, but barring complete disasters, these changes are a foregone conclusion. And while the proposals are grounded in methodological issues, like any company, it also comes down to money. The diary service costs more to run every year while the radio industry continues to contract.

What Nielsen Is Proposing — And What’s at Stake

Today, Cumulus is out while the company challenges Nielsen’s sales policies on antitrust grounds. Sure, the judicial issue is the accusation of “tying” the purchase of local markets to accessing Nationwide at a reasonable price, but Cumulus stated that the ROI on Nielsen data doesn’t work financially in more than half of their markets. Other companies, such as Good Karma, have walked away from Nielsen, but iHeart and Audacy continue to subscribe.

What Nielsen is proposing is both radical and evolutionary at the same time. For non-PPM metros, changing the seven-day paper diary is big. Moving a proportion of the sample to a two-day online questionnaire — 15-20 minutes at one sitting — with modeling to build a seven-day cume is radical. Using sample from different vendors rather than a probability sample is even more radical. However, modeling and non-probability sampling have been around for a long time. Nielsen, and Arbitron before them, didn’t feel comfortable going in that direction and became laggards — but probably in a good way — so what might have been evolutionary over the last two decades or so is now a radical shift.

I say “good way” because the industry prizes consistency over just about any other ratings outcome. Walt Sabo has harped on the industry’s dependence on AQH audiences — small — against cume audiences — large — and he’s right. I’ve said the same thing for years. Regardless, the industry’s currency has been one that is subject to fluctuations, sometimes wild ones, based on a couple of diaries. With radio’s slow but consistent declines in audience, a couple of diaries — or meters, for that matter — can kill a station or even a cluster for months with sometimes dire financial consequences.

There is a bigger issue to consider: the more Nielsen makes the measurement system simpler for respondents, the more they invite competition. If Nielsen says they can get a seven-day cume from two days of listening — similar to the Birch system of 35 years ago — and use convenience samples with acceptable results, anyone can do it. Hire a couple of good statisticians to build the models or train an AI model. And if anyone can do it, a new competitor can charge less than Nielsen, perhaps a lot less. Just roll that around in your mind for a moment.

Let’s meet again next week.

Barrett Media produces daily content on the music, news, and sports media industries. Sign up for our newsletters to stay updated and get the latest information right in your inbox.

Approaching the Summit: Mary Sandberg Boyle, WGN Radio

Approaching The Summit is a series of special interviews created in partnership with Point to Point Marketing featuring speakers at the upcoming 2026 Barrett Media Audio Summit in New York City. Follow along with this series as prominent names surrounding the event June 30-July 2 share their insights and expectations for what’s to come in the Big Apple. The Summit takes place at the SVA Theatre on West 23rd Street. For tickets and hotel room reservations, click here or visit the Summit section at the top of the website.   

Garrett Searight: How important is it for those in the radio industry — especially the news/talk genre — to gather to discuss ideas and issues?

Mary Sandberg Boyle: News/talk radio is still one of the most trusted and immediate forms of media. But audience habits, technology, and advertiser expectations are changing rapidly. Bringing leaders together gives us the opportunity to share what’s working, learn from each other’s challenges, and have honest conversations about where the business is headed. No single market has all the answers. Collaboration is critical if we want the industry to continue growing and innovating.

GS: What are the most important things you hope to learn and hear about at the Summit?

MSB: I’m always interested in hearing how companies are successfully balancing strong local content with evolving digital consumption habits. I want to learn more about audience engagement strategies, monetization opportunities beyond traditional spot revenue, and how organizations are using digital platforms to strengthen their brands rather than compete against them.

GS: What are the things you hope to share during your panel and speaking with other attendees?

MSB: I hope to share perspectives on leading legacy brands through industry transformation while still staying focused on what makes radio unique, which is local connection, trust, personality, and community impact. At WGN Radio, we’ve worked hard to balance tradition with innovation by building revenue-generating content franchises and expanding digital opportunities.

I’d also like to share lessons around leadership, team culture, and empowering people to make decisions and grow. The strongest organizations are the ones that create environments where people feel trusted, challenged, and connected to a larger mission.

GS: When you look at the radio industry as a whole, where do you see the biggest opportunities going forward?

MSB: The biggest opportunity is for radio companies to fully embrace being multi-platform media brands rather than viewing themselves solely as radio stations. Radio already has many of the assets that digital companies are trying to build. We have trusted personalities, loyal audiences, daily engagement, local influence, and strong storytelling capabilities. There’s a major opportunity in news/talk specifically because audiences continue to seek trusted voices and credible information in an increasingly fragmented media environment.

GS: Where are you most optimstic about the future of the medium?

MSB: I’m optimistic about radio’s ability to evolve while still maintaining its core strengths. Despite all the changes in media, radio remains incredibly resilient because it’s personal, immediate, and deeply connected to local communities.

I also think the industry has an opportunity to continue developing diverse leadership, mentoring emerging talent, and creating pathways for the next generation to help shape what the future of audio and media looks like.

Barrett Media produces daily content on the music, news, and sports media industries. Sign up for our newsletters to stay updated and get the latest information right in your inbox.

Chicago Bulls Player, Broadcaster Stacey King Dies At 59

0

The Chicago Bulls lost one of their most iconic figures Sunday. Stacey King, a three-time NBA champion and beloved broadcaster, has died at 59. No cause of death was given.

What We Know: King spent nearly four decades connected to the Bulls franchise. Selected sixth overall in the 1989 NBA Draft out of Oklahoma, he averaged 8.9 points and 4.7 rebounds as a rookie alongside Michael Jordan. Moreover, he was part of three consecutive championships from 1991 to 1993. After his playing career ended, King briefly coached the Rockford Lightning in the CBA before transitioning to broadcasting. He served as the Bulls’ color commentator on NBC Sports Chicago from 2006 until the network shuttered in 2024.

What They Said: Chicago Bulls chairman Jerry Reinsdorf: “Stacey King was a cherished member of the Bulls family and one of the truly unique personalities in our organization’s history. His connection to Chicago, the Bulls and our fans spanned more than three decades — first as a player and later as the unmistakable voice that helped bring Bulls basketball into the homes of generations of fans. We will miss him deeply and remember the joy, energy, humor, candor and passion that he brought to our organization, our broadcasts, and our fans every day.”

Chicago Bulls Team president Michael Reinsdorf: “Stacey loved being a Bull. You could feel it in everything he did — the way he played, the way he called games, and the way he connected with our fans. He had a unique gift for bringing people together and making every game feel personal. … Stacey genuinely cared about people, and he made our organization better. We will miss him dearly, and his impact, memory and legacy will remain part of the Chicago Bulls forever.”

What Remains Unclear: No cause of death is known. Moreover, details on memorial services to come at a later date.

What It Means: King was more than a broadcaster. In addition, he was a cultural thread running through decades of Bulls basketball. His transition from world champion to commentator gave Chicago fans a familiar, trusted voice for nearly 20 years.

Barrett Media produces daily content on the music, news, and sports media industries. Sign up for our newsletters to stay updated and get the latest information right in your inbox.

FOX Sports Announces FIFA World Cup Group Stage Match Assignments for Opening Week

0

FOX Sports has announced its broadcaster match assignments for the first week of FIFA World Cup 2026 Group Stage play. The tournament kicks off Thursday, June 11, with nine commentary teams covering all 104 matches across 16 host cities.

What We Know: John Strong and Stu Holden return as FOX’s lead booth for their third consecutive men’s World Cup, joined by reporter Jenny Taft. Their debut comes June 12 from Los Angeles, as the USMNT faces Paraguay in Group D. Moreover, a special three-hour pregame show starts at 6:00 PM ET on FOX. FOX and FS1 will carry all 104 matches live, with every game streaming in 4K on FOX One.

What The Data Shows: (courtesy of FOX Sports)

DateMatchPlay-by-PlayMatch AnalystReporterRules Analyst
June 11Mexico vs. South AfricaIan DarkeLandon DonovanAlex AljoeMark Clattenburg
June 11Korea Republic vs. CzechiaJacqui OatleyWarren BartonDr. Joe Machnik
June 12Canada vs. Bosnia-HerzegovinaDarren FletcherOwen HargreavesDr. Joe Machnik
June 12USMNT vs. ParaguayJohn StrongStu HoldenJenny TaftMark Clattenburg
June 13Qatar vs. SwitzerlandDerek RaeRob GreenMark Clattenburg
June 13Brazil vs. MoroccoJohn StrongStu HoldenNatalie GedraMark Clattenburg
June 13Haiti vs. ScotlandIan CrockerDanny HigginbothamAlex AljoeDr. Joe Machnik
June 13Australia vs. TürkiyeJacqui OatleyWarren BartonDr. Joe Machnik
June 14Germany vs. CuraçaoIan DarkeLandon DonovanKatie ShanahanMark Clattenburg
June 14Netherlands vs. JapanDarren FletcherOwen HargreavesGeoff ShreevesMark Clattenburg
June 14Côte d’Ivoire vs. EcuadorJP DellacameraLori LindseyDr. Joe Machnik
June 14Sweden vs. TunisiaTyler TerensMaurice EduDr. Joe Machnik
June 15Spain vs. Cabo VerdeJohn StrongStu HoldenAlex AljoeMark Clattenburg
June 15Belgium vs. EgyptDerek RaeRob GreenNatalie GedraMark Clattenburg
June 15Saudi Arabia vs. UruguayJP DellacameraLori LindseyDr. Joe Machnik
June 15IR Iran vs. New ZealandJacqui OatleyWarren BartonDr. Joe Machnik
June 16France vs. SenegalIan DarkeLandon DonovanGeoff ShreevesMark Clattenburg
June 16Iraq vs. NorwayIan CrockerDanny HigginbothamKatie ShanahanMark Clattenburg
June 16Argentina vs. AlgeriaJohn StrongStu HoldenAlex Aljoe / Tom RinaldiMark Clattenburg
June 16Austria vs. JordanDerek RaeRob GreenDr. Joe Machnik
June 17Portugal vs. DR CongoDarren FletcherOwen HargreavesNatalie Gedra / Tom RinaldiMark Clattenburg
June 17England vs. CroatiaJohn StrongStu HoldenGeoff ShreevesMark Clattenburg
June 17Ghana vs. PanamaJP DellacameraLori LindseyDr. Joe Machnik
June 17Uzbekistan vs. ColombiaJacqui OatleyWarren BartonDr. Joe Machnik
June 18Czechia vs. South AfricaIan CrockerDanny HigginbothamMark Clattenburg
June 18Switzerland vs. Bosnia-HerzegovinaDerek RaeRob GreenMark Clattenburg
June 18Canada vs. QatarTyler TerensMaurice EduDr. Joe Machnik
June 18Mexico vs. Korea RepublicDarren FletcherOwen HargreavesAlex AljoeDr. Joe Machnik

What Remains Unclear: Match assignments beyond the opening week will roll out on a weekly basis. It’s also unclear how studio coverage and shoulder programming will be structured around non-USMNT matches. FOX has not yet detailed its Spanish-language broadcast plans.

What It Means: FOX Sports has a slew of action coming beginning next week. After years of planning, the 2026 tournament is the largest ever, featuring 48 teams and three host nations. The tournament runs from June 11 through July 19. Eleven cities will be hosting the tournament in the U.S. including Atlanta, Boston, Dallas, Houston, Kansas City, Los Angeles, Miami, New York New Jersey, Philadelphia, Seattle and the San Francisco Bay Area.

Barrett Media produces daily content on the music, news, and sports media industries. Sign up for our newsletters to stay updated and get the latest information right in your inbox.

WJR 760 Launches ‘Founding Fathers Friday’ Ahead of America 250 Celebration

0

The America 250 celebration is fast approaching. WJR 760 began one of its programming events on Friday in advance of that celebration.

What We Know: JR Morning, the morning show on WJR 760, launched “Founding Fathers Friday” this morning. The feature will include conversations with historians and focus on an individual founding father. Friday’s feature was focused on George Washington. The morning show spoke with Dr. Lindsey Chervinsky, the Director of the George Washington Presidential Library.

What They Said: “You guys know I’m a history nerd. I absolutely love it. And as we approach the 250, we thought it’d be a good idea to go back and revisit and learn about the people that set this whole thing up. Our founding fathers created this blueprint that became this grand American experience. This thing that had never been done in the world.” -WJR 760 morning host Chris Renwick

What Remains Unclear: How long the feature will last. It is also unclear if the feature will continue past the July 4th celebration that is approaching.

What It Means: America 250 is a, literally, once-in-a-lifetime programming and sales opportunity. It’s good to see a station in the news/talk format accept and understand that importance.

Barrett Media produces daily content on the music, news, and sports media industries. Sign up for our newsletters to stay updated and get the latest information right in your inbox.

NASCAR Broadcaster, Hall of Fame Driver Ned Jarrett Dies at Age 93

0

Ned Jarrett, a two-time NASCAR Cup Series champion and pioneering broadcaster, passed away Thursday at 93. He died peacefully at his Newton, North Carolina home surrounded by family.

What We Know: Jarrett won championships in 1961 and 1965, finishing with 50 wins in just 352 starts across a 13-year career. He also claimed back-to-back Sportsman titles in 1957 and 1958. After retiring at 34, Jarrett transitioned seamlessly into broadcasting. He hosted a daily radio show, reported for MRN, and later called races for CBS and ESPN from 1979-2000. His emotional CBS call of the 1993 Daytona 500 — with son Dale Jarrett behind the wheel — remains one of sports broadcasting’s most iconic moments.

What They Said: The Jarrett family released this statement: “While we mourn his passing, we celebrate the remarkable life of an amazing man and truly the best father anyone could have wished for. Rest in Peace, Dad.”

NASCAR CEO Steve O’Donnell added: “Despite his calm demeanor, ‘Gentleman’ Ned Jarrett was as fierce a competitor as NASCAR has ever seen. Ned was an outstanding ambassador for the sport for more than six decades, and he will be dearly missed.”

NASCAR Legend Richard Petty: “The Petty family is deeply saddened to learn of the passing of Ned Jarrett. Ned was one of the true gentlemen of our sport and a fierce competitor whose talent, integrity, and dedication helped shape NASCAR into what it is today.”

What Remains Unclear: Formal memorial arrangements are unknown. Additionally, the full scope of tributes from the broader sports media community is still developing. Jarrett joined the NASCAR Hall of Fame in 2011. Just two years before his son Dale joined him there in 2014.

What It Means: Jarrett’s death closes a memorable chapter in NASCAR history. Few figures shaped both the competitive and media landscapes of the sport as profoundly as Jarrett. His career arc — from champion driver to beloved broadcaster — set a template others still follow.

Barrett Media produces daily content on the music, news, and sports media industries. Sign up for our newsletters to stay updated and get the latest information right in your inbox.

Lesley Stahl, Bill Whitaker, Jon Wertheim to Remain on 60 Minutes

0

After a tumultuous week at 60 Minutes, the network received word on Friday that its remaining correspondents — Lesley Stahl, Bill Whitaker, and Jon Wertheim — would remain with the program.

What We Know: Four of the seven correspondents from the past season have exited. In a memo to staffers on Thursday, new executive producer Nick Bilton called it a “hell of a first week” on the job. He also called Lesley Stahl, Bill Whitaker, and Jon Wertheim “core to the show’s success.” In a joint statement to staffers on Friday, the remaining trio committed to returning to the 59th season of the show.

What They Said: “We have decided to stay on. We feared that our returning might be construed as an endorsement of the existing power structure. That is simply, categorically not the case. Here’s why we’re staying: We don’t want to see 60 Minutes die. We have been grieving because this whole mess has wounded and damaged the broadcast.” -Lesley Stahl, Bill Whitaker, and Jon Wertheim in a joint statement

What Remains Unclear: What the response from CBS News executives will be. In the memo, the trio lambasted the decision to fire Executive Producer Tanya Simon and Executive Editor Draggan Mihalovich, as well as their former colleagues Cecilia Vega, Sharyn Alfonsi, and Scott Pelley.

What It Means: The move gives an answer to one of the largest questions remaining about the future of the show. The institutional knowledge of the trio is an important factor. Especially with new leaders like Bari Weiss and Nick Bilton overseeing the show.

Barrett Media produces daily content on the music, news, and sports media industries. Sign up for our newsletters to stay updated and get the latest information right in your inbox.

Approaching the Summit: Cameron Hendrix, Magellan AI

Approaching The Summit is a series of special interviews created in partnership with Point to Point Marketing featuring speakers at the upcoming 2026 Barrett Media Audio Summit in New York City. Follow along with this series as prominent names surrounding the event June 30-July 2 share their insights and expectations for what’s to come in the Big Apple. The Summit takes place at the SVA Theatre on West 23rd Street. For tickets and hotel room reservations, click here or visit the Summit section at the top of the website.   

Garrett Searight: Before we get to the Summit, I’d like to ask you about the recent partnership between Magellan AI and Signal Hill Insights. Start me out with how things got rolling with Signal Hill. Why does this matter to you guys, and how does it all come together?

Cameron Hendrix: We’ve known Signal Hill for quite a while. First, the best way to think about our business is that Magellan AI is an audio ad intelligence and attribution platform.

Historically, attribution for us has meant offering middle- and lower-funnel measurement. That means we’re looking at events such as leads and purchases. An advertiser is interested in driving a listener to a website and tracking exposure to that website, then tracing it through to whatever event the advertiser cares about achieving. That’s more middle- and lower-funnel attribution, depending on where you’re measuring.

A partnership with Signal Hill allows us to go a little further up the funnel. Signal Hill is known for its brand lift studies. We had an opportunity to work with an advertiser that would be working with both Magellan AI and Signal Hill. We were able to serve as the point of contact for gathering data for both lower-funnel attribution and upper-funnel brand metrics.

In this case, the advertiser cared about website visits and purchases further down the funnel, but they also cared about how consumers perceived their brand after being exposed to the advertising. That’s where Signal Hill’s brand lift study came in. The partnership really grew organically out of the demand we saw from advertisers and culminated in this relationship.

GS: When you look at where the attribution space is in its life cycle, where would you place it right now?

CH: That’s a good question. I always find the baseball metaphors funny — whether we’re just pulling into the parking lot or haven’t even gotten our hot dog yet.

The bottom line is that the audio space is still in the early stages. It’s been a hot topic for a while, but we still see a tremendous amount of growth ahead for audio. While multiple attribution companies have launched and been acquired, we believe it’s still early.

We also think attribution itself is still evolving. For advertisers, attribution isn’t just about one channel; it’s about multiple channels. That’s why we measure not only audio but also connected TV, display advertising, and other digital channels. Within audio, we measure podcasts, streaming audio, and broadcast radio.

As an industry, we’re really just getting started in solving advertisers’ needs. And also helping them understand which campaigns are driving the strongest performance.

GS: What have been the biggest challenges in creating and evolving that space?

CH: In audio specifically, the medium can be complex because of the different ways ads are served and sold.

That’s both the challenge and the opportunity. We’re able to work with many different ad servers and formats while ultimately presenting data in a way that’s familiar. They can view audio performance through dashboards similar to what they’re accustomed to seeing in connected TV or digital advertising.

The challenge is that there are so many different ways audio can be bought, delivered, and measured. The opportunity is bringing all of that together into a unified measurement framework.

GS: How different does the future of this space look compared to where things are right now?

CH: I think we’ll continue to see advertisers gravitate toward platforms that can measure multiple channels. And also provide a broader perspective on overall marketing performance.

That’s part of why we partnered with Signal Hill. It enables us to provide advertisers with more top-of-funnel insights into how campaigns impact awareness, favorability, and purchase intent, in addition to lower-funnel outcomes like website visits and purchases.

I think we’ll continue to see a trend toward advertisers seeking platforms that offer a more complete picture rather than relying on a collection of separate point solutions to measure different parts of their marketing budgets.

GS: You’re going to be speaking at our Summit later this month. How important is it to get people from the industry together to share ideas, challenges, and experiences?

CH: One of the things we’ve found most gratifying about working in the audio space is how collaborative it is. There’s a lot of openness to new solutions and a willingness to share challenges.

That’s how we learn and grow as an industry — by bringing together potential customers, existing customers, and even competitors. Discussing the challenges advertisers and publishers face helps the entire industry improve.

I think it’s absolutely critical for us to be in the same room discussing these issues.

GS: When you attend a conference, what are the priorities that stand out to you?

CH: We really value attending events that attract the right people. People who are experiencing the business challenges we want to discuss within audio and the broader advertising and content ecosystem.

We prioritize events where we can connect directly with people who are facing challenges we can help solve or learn from ourselves. That’s really the biggest factor when deciding which events to attend.

GS: Cameron, I think that’s everything I wanted to cover. If there’s anything I didn’t ask or anything else you’d like to add, I’ll give you the floor.

CH: One thing I’d like to emphasize, going back to the Signal Hill partnership and attribution more generally, is that we think there are two types of marketing channels: demand-driving channels and demand-capture channels.

Demand-capture channels include things like search. Someone is already looking for a product, clicks on an ad, visits the website, and makes a purchase. They’re acting on an existing decision.

Demand-driving channels work differently. Someone hears about a product, relates it to a challenge they’re experiencing, and begins considering whether that product could help them. Audio often falls into that category.

That’s one reason we’re excited about the Signal Hill partnership. We view audio as a demand-driving channel. While we measure lower-funnel metrics such as lead generation and purchases, there’s also tremendous value in understanding upper-funnel metrics like awareness, favorability, and consideration.

That perspective helps address one of the challenges audio faces compared to channels where someone clicks a search ad and immediately purchases a product. Audio often introduces consumers to a product for the first time. It may take multiple exposures and a longer decision-making process before they make a purchase.

Being able to measure metrics such as purchase intent, favorability, and consideration makes a significant difference. That’s a major part of what we’re accomplishing through our partnership with Signal Hill.

Barrett Media produces daily content on the music, news, and sports media industries. Sign up for our newsletters to stay updated and get the latest information right in your inbox.

Sports Podcasts Continue To Dominate Large Scale Advertising Campaigns In May

0

Sports podcasts continue to hold firm as the go-to environment for major podcast advertisers in May. New Podscribe data shows seven of the top ten spenders targeted sports as their primary genre in May.

What We Know: Combined spending among the top 10 rose 7.6% month-over-month to $31.2 million. At the forefront, Shopify led all advertisers at $5.2 million, with BetterHelp ranking second at $4.7 million as both brands continued to prioritize sports programming. At the same time, Red Bull posted the month’s most dramatic increase. The brand surged 503% to $2.9 million across more than 1,500 shows. Elsewhere, Amazon, Progressive Insurance, Toyota, and Wayfair also invested heavily in sports-targeted campaigns, highlighting the genre’s continued appeal among major marketers.

What The Numbers Show: (via Podscribe)

RankBrandIndustryEstimated Spend1 Mo. Change %Advertiser TypeTop Show Genres
1ShopifyB2B$5.2M↑6%ShopifySports
2BetterHelpMental Health$4.8M↑32%BetterHelpComedy
3QuinceRetail$4.1M↑10%QuinceSociety & Culture
4Mint MobileCell Phones$3.8M↑6%Mint MobileNews
5Red BullDrink$2.9M↑459%Red BullSports
6AmazonE-Commerce$2.4M↑25%AmazonSports
7Progressive InsuranceFinancial Services$2.2M↑103%Progressive InsuranceSports
8ToyotaCars$2.1M↑75%ToyotaSports
9PrizePicksGambling$2.0M↑9%PrizePicksSports
10WayfairHome & Garden$2.0M↑4%WayfairSports

What Remains Unclear: Whether sports podcasts will maintain this dominance or improve on it heading into the second half of 2026 with large national sports events planned. It’s also unclear if non-sports genres can close the gap. BetterHelp favored comedy, Quince focused on society and culture, and Mint Mobile leaned into news — but none matched the scale sports delivered for competing advertisers.

What It Means: Sports podcasting continues to be the preferred proving ground for large-scale campaigns. The category’s reach, loyal audiences, and host-driven credibility make it an attractive fit across industries. Notably, the top 10 represented ten different sectors — from automotive and insurance to energy drinks and sports betting — yet most still gravitated toward sports.

Barrett Media produces daily content on the music, news, and sports media industries. Sign up for our newsletters to stay updated and get the latest information right in your inbox.